# Political nobody wins SC Democratic US Senate nomination in strangest political upset of the year. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518 "2010-06-09T07:48:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![OneChance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/74df32/32.png) [@OneChance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneChance)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/61 "2010-06-11T13:13:52Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Then he wouldn’t have qualified for the public defender’s office. I don’t think it’s as simple as how much money he had in the bank. If his entire net worth is $10,000, and he was recently unemployed, then a felony charge is brought against him, would he then be eligible for a public defender since he has no income and very limited assets? All someone needs to do is contact The South Carolina Commission on Indigent Defense and find out how he qualified for a public defender, but I guess it’s more fun to speculate. ---
**Author:** ![Spit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spit)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/62 "2010-06-11T13:17:09Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Then he wouldn’t have qualified for the public defender’s office. > > Something’s rotten in Denmark. Don’t you mean Greeneland? Well, it was funny to me. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/63 "2010-06-11T14:05:26Z")
100K votes? Easy, we were just really excited that that we might be represented by a legendary singer. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/64 "2010-06-11T14:07:30Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > And of course it’s always worth mentioning the guy with the horse (Twice! With the same horse!). > [@Kolga](#): > > I think that guy is from Georgia. > [@Steve\_MB](#): > > [The Georgia one](http://www.prosebeforehos.com/quote-of-the-day/05/01/mule-sex-secession-watermelon-fucking-all-in-a-days-work/) was a mule. > [@Marley23](#): > > Hold your horses, **Really Not All That Bright**. 😉 [FotR] **Tradition!** [/FotR] ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/65 "2010-06-11T14:36:34Z")
OK, this question must be asked: How does Alvin Greene compare to Sarah Palin? ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/66 "2010-06-11T14:40:11Z")
> [@StusBlues](#): > > OK, this question must be asked: > > How does Alvin Greene compare to Sarah Palin? Personally I think the GOP planted this guy to prove that it was in fact possible for the Democrats to field a candidate who was dumber than Sarah Palin. Say what you will about her, but at least she’s capable of forming a complete sentence and a delivering a somewhat coherent (if bullshitty) explanation of her views. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/67 "2010-06-11T14:49:26Z")
She is able to form sentances but they are rarly complete and have yet to be coherent, **joebuck20** , and the other major difference is the the Democrats are running from this guy like he is plutonium, while the Republicans elected Sarah Palin twice and nominated her for the second highest political post in the country. I bet this guy can name one magazine he reads, though 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@Captain\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/68 "2010-06-11T14:51:39Z")
I am all for “regular people” trying to win office, but this Alvin Greene is one for the books. The poor man is slow developmentally. Really. His I.Q. of about 78. His interview with Keith Olbermann was \*\*very laughable \*\*to say the least. This guy doesn’t even know what a Senator does, and I honestly doubt this man knows anything at all about government. But he is a college graduate. He has been in the military. He has travelled abroad. He’s been inside a South Carolina jail and understands the legal system. Still, the man is retarded. And the retarded should not be allowed in public office (George W. Bush and Dan Quayle no exceptions.) ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/69 "2010-06-11T14:54:04Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > I bet this guy can name one magazine he reads, though 😃 Erm, if you consider his arrest, you may want to say he can name one magazine he _looks_ at. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/70 "2010-06-11T14:59:59Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Erm, if you consider his arrest, you may want to say he can name one magazine he _looks_ at. Hustler? ---
**Author:** ![Spit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spit)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/71 "2010-06-11T15:06:49Z")
> [@Captain\_Midnight](#): > > His interview with Keith Olbermann was \*\*very laughable \*\*to say the least. Poor Keith- He was so conflicted during that interview. He really wanted to tear in to the guy, but the slim chance he might be a democrat wouldn’t allow it ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/72 "2010-06-11T15:50:49Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Erm, if you consider his arrest, you may want to say he can name one magazine he _looks_ at. Yes… but would you want him to? ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/73 "2010-06-11T18:00:37Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > But the bit that got me is from a Democratic state senator who said, and I quote, _“Vic Rawl had money, but he didn’t have enough. He wasn’t able to identify himself with black voters,” Ford said. “No white folks have an ‘e’ on the end of Green. The blacks after they left the plantation couldn’t spell, and they threw an ‘e’ on the end.”_ I thought this was a joke until I checked the link. Is it too late to lose the Civil War? BTW, the spelling of Greene goes back to Anglo Saxon times in England. ---
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/74 "2010-06-11T18:02:14Z")
> [@Spit](#): > > Poor Keith- He was so conflicted during that interview. He really wanted to tear in to the guy, but the slim chance he might be a democrat wouldn’t allow it I think it was more his sense of decency that wouldn’t allow it; you don’t tear into someone who clearly doesn’t have the capacity to mount their own defense. It’s unseemly and unnecessary. Greene was the architect of his own demise in the interview, he didn’t need any additional goring from Olbermann to speed the process along. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/75 "2010-06-11T19:22:41Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > Hustler? Highlights. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/76 "2010-06-11T20:45:00Z")
And 538 begins to get interested in the outcome… [http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/06/something-fishy-in-south-carolina.html](http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/06/something-fishy-in-south-carolina.html) ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/77 "2010-06-11T21:03:05Z")
> [@DanBlather](#): > > BTW, the spelling of Greene goes back to Anglo Saxon times in England. And it is the spelling used by Nathanael Greene, a hero of the Revolution in the South (though he was from Rhode Island), and the namesake of several towns and counties. Also, Greene Street in downtown Columbia SC, two blocks from the State House, the address of several government-related buildings, and a street which Robert Ford surely has had to cross in the course of being a state senator. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/78 "2010-06-11T21:22:26Z")
[Racist State Senator Robert Ford](http://www.scstatehouse.gov/members/bios/0606818109.html)😃 ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/79 "2010-06-11T21:59:02Z")
> [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](#): > > [Racist State Senator Robert Ford](http://www.scstatehouse.gov/members/bios/0606818109.html)😃 He even looks like Uncle Ruckus. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/80 "2010-06-11T22:06:31Z")
So, does anyone who is advancing the “Republicans voted for Greene as a coordinated spoiler effort” theory have an explanation for how they mobilized that many people without a single leak? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518.md?page=5)