# Political stance of "Team America: World Police"

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 7, 2004, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-stance-of-team-america-world-police/268114 "2004-10-07T23:06:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![WeRSauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f19dbf/32.png) [@WeRSauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WeRSauron)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2004, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-stance-of-team-america-world-police/268114/1 "2004-10-07T23:06:36Z")

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Shortly, _Team America: World Police_ will be in theatres. I’ve seen some trailers and found them to be very amusing. One trailer showing Kim Jong Il singing “I’m So Lonely” (where “lonely” is more like “rone-ry”) was very funny.

Now, since this . . . um, movie? cartoon? puppet show? . . . deals with current events, it has to have a political slant: left or right, Democrat or Republican, pro-peace or pro-war, etc.

Has anyone heard what this work’s stand is?

WRS

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**Author:** ![Chastain86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Chastain86](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chastain86)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2004, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-stance-of-team-america-world-police/268114/2 "2004-10-07T23:09:56Z")

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I got the impression that it’s harsh to everybody, liberals and conservatives alike.

Which is very in line with Trey Parker and Matt Stone’s personal philosophies, as I understand it. They’re not necessarily concerned with politics so much as what is truly funny.

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**Author:** ![chukhung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@chukhung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chukhung)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2004, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-stance-of-team-america-world-police/268114/3 "2004-10-07T23:13:17Z")

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This [article](http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/06/arts/06arts.html?ex=1097726400&en=1841d87d2849e32e&ei=5006&partner=ALTAVISTA1) from the New York Times is mostly about the problems the MPAA has with marionette sex (although, apparently, marionette violence is no problem for an R rating). It does say, however,

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> The movie skewers both left- and right-wing ideologies, and makes villains of activist stars like Tim Robbins and Sean Penn.

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**Author:** ![Murcielago](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Murcielago](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Murcielago)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2004, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-stance-of-team-america-world-police/268114/4 "2004-10-07T23:30:07Z")

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The only overt statement I have read from either them was by Stone, who said “I hate conservatives, but I really fucking hate liberals.” They seem to go after the rhetoric on both sides pretty evenly, though the hollywood liberals have always been a favorite target.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-stance-of-team-america-world-police/268114/5 "2004-10-08T02:19:42Z")

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They seem to be very consistent libertarians, at least with a small “L.”

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-stance-of-team-america-world-police/268114/6 "2004-10-08T03:23:15Z")

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I agree with the previous posters. Fans of _South Park_ know that Parker and Stone love skewering both sides. I see no reason to believe that _Team America: World Police_ will be any different. Remember the quote in _South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut_: “Horrific, deplorable violence is okay as long as there aren’t any naughty words. That’s what this war is all about!”

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**Author:** ![WeRSauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f19dbf/32.png) [@WeRSauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WeRSauron)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-stance-of-team-america-world-police/268114/7 "2004-10-08T05:57:47Z")

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Oh, I love equal opportunity offenders!

I must go and see this, then. I was worried it might be slanted one way or another. I don’t mind blasting one side as long as the other gets blasted too.

(Another movie I was worried about was _Manchurian Candidate_, but they handled partisanism very, very well.)

WRS

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-stance-of-team-america-world-police/268114/8 "2004-10-08T05:59:44Z")

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From what I’ve read they make fun of pretty much everybody. Apparently there’s a Michael Moore puppet that comes off rather badly. I’m sure that will be pleasing to some.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-stance-of-team-america-world-police/268114/9 "2004-10-08T13:11:07Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> From what I’ve read they make fun of pretty much everybody. Apparently there’s a Michael Moore puppet that comes off rather badly. I’m sure that will be pleasing to some.

Yep–in [the only trailer I’ve seen](http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/team_america/), the funniest moment is a half-second of Michael Moore dancing an insane jig in front of Mount Rushmore; it spurred me into astonished cackling.

I’m _really_ looking forward to this.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![JoeSki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b487fb/32.png) [@JoeSki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoeSki)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-stance-of-team-america-world-police/268114/10 "2004-10-08T14:34:33Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> From what I’ve read they make fun of pretty much everybody. Apparently there’s a Michael Moore puppet that comes off rather badly. I’m sure that will be pleasing to some.

Yeah, I was wondering about that. I thought Matt Stone respected/liked Michael Moore. He did appear in Bowling for Columbine.

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-stance-of-team-america-world-police/268114/11 "2004-10-08T17:18:06Z")

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> [@Murcielago](#):
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> The only overt statement I have read from either them was by Stone, who said “I hate conservatives, but I really fucking hate liberals.” They seem to go after the rhetoric on both sides pretty evenly, though the hollywood liberals have always been a favorite target.

I know a hollywood liberal who worked on the show, and that was his impression of their stance as well.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-stance-of-team-america-world-police/268114/12 "2004-10-08T17:24:28Z")

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> [@JoeSki](#):
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> Yeah, I was wondering about that. I thought Matt Stone respected/liked Michael Moore. He did appear in Bowling for Columbine.

Wow, I completely forgot about that. I wonder if Moore is going to have a sense of humor about being made fun of.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-stance-of-team-america-world-police/268114/13 "2004-10-08T17:32:51Z")

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> [@JoeSki](#):
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> Yeah, I was wondering about that. I thought Matt Stone respected/liked Michael Moore. He did appear in Bowling for Columbine.

I believe (if I am not mistaken) that Stone has commented that he didn’t like the way he was used in that movie, or something of the sort.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-stance-of-team-america-world-police/268114/14 "2004-10-08T19:33:14Z")

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Here’s an interesting early review from [AICN](http://aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=18551). From the sounds of the review the movie is more a lampoon of Hollywood action films than a political polemic. It also sounds like it ridicules all sides pretty much equally.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-stance-of-team-america-world-police/268114/15 "2004-10-08T19:33:51Z")

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IIRC, there’s some confusion over whether the animated segment in **Bowling for Columbine** was done by Parker or Stone, or just done in their style.

But yeah, they are living proof that Republicans can be funny – as soon as they stop being Republicans. 😃

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> I wonder if Moore is going to have a sense of humor about being made fun of.

Have you ever seen how he deals with hecklers? The guy can [roll with the best of 'em:](http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=149)

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> So it was Monday night, as I sat in the press section — unbeknownst to Sen. McCain — when he switched from pro-war convention speaker to film critic. Out of nowhere, he began to attack my movie, Fahrenheit 9/11, calling me a “disingenuous filmmaker.” The problem is, he hasn’t seen the movie, a fact he later admitted to Chris Matthews on MSNBC.
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> … Thousands of Republicans turned to me chanting “Four more years.” I thought, “That’s strange, Republicans are usually good at math, but they’re off by a few dozen months. Bush only has two months left.” So I held up two fingers to correct their miscalculation.

(For those who missed it, Mike’s “two fingers” was the “Loser” sign)

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-stance-of-team-america-world-police/268114/16 "2004-10-08T23:16:03Z")

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> [@rjung](#):
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> Have you ever seen how he deals with hecklers?

Lamely and in a juvenile manner, usually.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-stance-of-team-america-world-police/268114/17 "2004-10-08T23:20:34Z")

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I don’t know. I thought he made John McCain and pretty much the entire delegation of the RNC his bitches.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-stance-of-team-america-world-police/268114/18 "2004-10-08T23:31:39Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> I don’t know. I thought he made John McCain and pretty much the entire delegation of the RNC his bitches.

You thought that, but you were incorrect.

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**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-stance-of-team-america-world-police/268114/19 "2004-10-08T23:44:11Z")

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Moore should have done the Chuck Woolery “Two and Two” hand sign–for two months to the election and two months for Bush to pack his Bags.

Back to “Team America”. Alll it looks like it will be missing is the Devil being Sadaam’s bitch.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-stance-of-team-america-world-police/268114/20 "2004-10-08T23:45:44Z")

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> [@capacitor](#):
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> Moore should have done the Chuck Woolery “Two and Two” hand sign–for two months to the election and two months for Bush to pack his Bags.

Yes, that would have been equally as juvenile, you’re right.

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