# politicians

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politicians/639567>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 1, 2012, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politicians/639567 "2012-11-01T15:14:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![stosh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@stosh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stosh)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politicians/639567/1 "2012-11-01T15:14:39Z")

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Take the devastation in new jersey. Obama flies in and him and Christie hop on a helicopter,that the taxpayers pay for,and check out the damage.When they land they say " the victim are in our prayers ".  
Does anyone believe that either of these clowns would “pray” for anyone but Themselves.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politicians/639567/2 "2012-11-01T15:22:20Z")

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Yes.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politicians/639567/3 "2012-11-01T15:22:35Z")

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If they stay out, they’re bashed for not providing leadership on site. All the major news agencies would be sending out national broadcasts with “Where is \<insert politician name here\> during this unprecedented crisis?”

Are you really so naive that you don’t understand that?

Weak sauce.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politicians/639567/4 "2012-11-01T15:26:51Z")

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> [@stosh](#):
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> Does anyone believe that either of these clowns would “pray” for anyone but Themselves.

I don’t fucking care what they pray for or who they pray to. And while the travel itself doesn’t accomplish much, yes, I would prefer they come see it instead of sitting in offices. Engaging with people on some kind of personal level and appearing to give a shit about horrible suffering is part of the job.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politicians/639567/5 "2012-11-01T17:27:32Z")

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> [@stosh](#):
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> Does anyone believe that either of these clowns would “pray” for anyone but Themselves.

You mean “Themselves” with a capital “T”? If I was a “Myself” with a capital “M” I’d pray for Myself too. Or maybe I’d pray _to_ Myself?

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politicians/639567/6 "2012-11-01T17:57:01Z")

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What they are doing has little practical benefit, but it has huge intangible benefits. By going out there, Obama and Christie are giving the storm victims hope. Hope which they desperately need, along with clean water, food, and shelter.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politicians/639567/7 "2012-11-01T18:06:15Z")

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You should have made this a yes or no poll. I’m guessing that the results would not be what you expected.

Sure, politicians are scum. But actually flying into a disaster zone and having a look around is a surefire way for _anybody_ to get some empathy for the victims. I don’t see how one _wouldn’t_ say a prayer just flying over that mess.

Major pit fail here.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politicians/639567/8 "2012-11-01T18:22:51Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> What they are doing has little practical benefit, but it has huge intangible benefits.

There is some practical benefit to going out there and learning what people are seeing and experiencing.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politicians/639567/9 "2012-11-01T18:31:36Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> There is some practical benefit to going out there and learning what people are seeing and experiencing.

And there is a somewhat less tangible benefit to public morale, especially in the affected areas, from seeing the elected officials on the scene. When you’ve lost your home, business, or loved ones, just knowing the POTUS is aware of the situation and will send federal relief means something.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politicians/639567/10 "2012-11-01T19:31:01Z")

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Wait, do Muslims pray? I though they just did sacrifices and stuff like that.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politicians/639567/11 "2012-11-01T19:53:02Z")

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> [@L. G. Butts](#):
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> Wait, do Muslims pray? I though they just did sacrifices and stuff like that.

Christie is a Muslim?

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politicians/639567/12 "2012-11-01T21:31:05Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> Christie is a Muslim?

He pals around with Muslims.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politicians/639567/13 "2012-11-01T21:53:45Z")

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> [@stosh](#):
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> Take the devastation in new jersey. Obama flies in and him and Christie hop on a helicopter,that the taxpayers pay for,and check out the damage.When they land they say " the victim are in our prayers ".  
> Does anyone believe that either of these clowns would “pray” for anyone but Themselves.

This bugs me, but I hear it a lot. “The parties are the same! Both candidates are equally corrupt and scummy!”

I can’t imagine thinking they’re all the same.
