# Poll:  A Social Experiment?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [May 1, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620 "2008-05-01T15:56:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![bannerrefugee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c68b51/32.png) [@bannerrefugee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bannerrefugee)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620/81 "2008-05-01T23:21:17Z")

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But men lead in all ethnicities. Why would people think of men first?

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620/82 "2008-05-01T23:23:55Z")

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[QUOTE=bannerrefugee]  
In every catagory males lead.  
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Except Asian. And the difference between black male and female is quite a big larger than the other categories.

eta - quoted before the edit.

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**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620/83 "2008-05-01T23:28:19Z")

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[QUOTE=bannerrefugee]  
But men lead in all ethnicities. Why would people think of men first?  
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That’s not entirely true. Asian males were less popular than asian females. Maybe society doesn’t much care for Asian males for aesthetic or other reasons? In porn, you are much more likely to see a black guy than an Asian guy.

And why do you suppose black females are so under-represented?

on edit: I think we can forego the spoiler boxes now that we’re safely on the second page. Feel free to discuss in the clear. Oh, and thanks to everyone who participated!

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**Author:** ![bannerrefugee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c68b51/32.png) [@bannerrefugee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bannerrefugee)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620/84 "2008-05-01T23:28:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Antinor01]

Except Asian. And the difference between black male and female is quite a big larger than the other categories.

eta - quoted before the edit.  
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Right I see that now. But I don’t think black celebrities are much ahead of white ones.

Maybe a stat’s test to see if it’s a significant difference

Nice idea to think about-what is your reasoning?

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620/85 "2008-05-01T23:50:19Z")

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1. Bill Cosby
2. Britney Spears
3. Jennifer Lopez
4. Lucy Liu

Joe

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**Author:** ![meenie7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7993a0/32.png) [@meenie7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/meenie7)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620/86 "2008-05-01T23:54:05Z")

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> [@](#):
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> 1. Name a black celebrity
> 2. Name a white celebrity
> 3. Name a hispanic celebrity
> 4. Name an Asian celebrity

1. Erykah Badu
2. Kirsten Dunst
3. Salma Hayek
4. Zhang Ziyi

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**Author:** ![Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abby_Emma_Sasha)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620/87 "2008-05-02T00:02:59Z")

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I based my answers on celebrities I like or admire, if we’re explaining our choices. Not that I don’t have girl crushes, but the men came to mind first.

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**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620/88 "2008-05-02T00:35:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Sophistry and Illusion]  
Michael Faraday? That’s nerdy even by Dope standards.  
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In my defense, he’s in my head because I’m currently attempting to write a paper for class on the Maxwell-Faraday theorem, and we all know that Faraday is infinitely cooler than Maxwell (that nerd).

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**Author:** ![nashiitashii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7c8e57/32.png) [@nashiitashii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nashiitashii)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620/89 "2008-05-02T00:53:58Z")

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[QUOTE=The Controvert]  
Help me test out a hypothesis. Just answer the following questions with the first thing that pops into your mind. I will reveal the experiment and the results if we get enough responses to go past the first page. Thanks!  
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1. Name a black celebrity  
Eddie Murphy
2. Name a white celebrity  
Steve Martin
3. Name a hispanic celebrity  
Salma Hayek
4. Name an Asian celebrity  
Margaret Cho

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**Author:** ![Kilvert\_s\_Pagan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@Kilvert\_s\_Pagan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kilvert_s_Pagan)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620/90 "2008-05-02T01:14:50Z")

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I’ll post without having read any other replies:

1. Name a black celebrity **Bill Cosby**
2. Name a white celebrity **Bob Hope** :rolleyes: (sorry - it’s the first thing that popped into my head…)
3. Name a hispanic celebrity **Salma Hayek**
4. Name an Asian celebrity **George Pataki**

So I guess we can infer that I’m old, if nothing else…

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**Author:** ![LiveOnAPlane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@LiveOnAPlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LiveOnAPlane)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620/91 "2008-05-02T01:19:04Z")

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1. Bill Cosby
2. Richard Petty
3. Freddie Prinze
4. Bruce Lee  
\<\<Edited to add: Oops. I did not read all of the responses and did not realize that the poll was over. Apologies!\>\>

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620/92 "2008-05-02T01:20:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Kilvert’s Pagan]  
4. Name an Asian celebrity **George Pataki**

So I guess we can infer that I’m old, if nothing else…  
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Ah, do you mean George Takei?

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**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620/93 "2008-05-02T01:25:00Z")

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I don’t see how this sordid little poll demonstrates any of the points that the OP wishes to make.

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**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620/94 "2008-05-02T02:21:09Z")

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Sorry to have wasted your time, then.

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**Author:** ![LifeOnWry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@LifeOnWry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LifeOnWry)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620/95 "2008-05-02T02:51:37Z")

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[QUOTE=The Controvert]  
Help me test out a hypothesis. Just answer the following questions with the first thing that pops into your mind. I will reveal the experiment and the results if we get enough responses to go past the first page. Thanks!

1. Name a black celebrity
2. Name a white celebrity
3. Name a hispanic celebrity
4. Name an Asian celebrity  
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Not reading any previous responses:

1. Denzel Washington
2. Tom Cruise
3. George Lopez
4. Jet Li

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**Author:** ![bannerrefugee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c68b51/32.png) [@bannerrefugee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bannerrefugee)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620/96 "2008-05-02T02:54:52Z")

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In the US Asian’s represent the smallest population of these 4 groups. In at least 2 obvious ways this may confound your results. Besides that they are culturally and historically different from the other 3.

Again what was your reasoning for this hypothesis?  
**The experiment was a test of correlation between race and gender in celebrities. My hypothesis was that male black celebrities are overrepresented**

Over represented in what way?

What correlation? How about some tests?

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620/97 "2008-05-02T03:20:53Z")

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1. Denzel Washington
2. Tom Hanks
3. Jennifer Lopez
4. Jet Li

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**Author:** ![a\_bee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce73a5/32.png) [@a\_bee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a_bee)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620/98 "2008-05-02T03:34:27Z")

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[QUOTE=bannerrefugee]  
But men lead in all ethnicities. Why would people think of men first?  
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This supports the conventional wisdom of Hollywood that male stars are bigger, and female stars should be paid less because they cannot carry a picture alone like a man can.

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**Author:** ![Apollyon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apollyon/32/4238_2.png) [@Apollyon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollyon)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620/99 "2008-05-02T03:57:05Z")

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1. Halle Berry
2. Drew Barrymore
3. Jessica Alba
4. Lucy Liu

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**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-a-social-experiment/447620/100 "2008-05-02T04:08:00Z")

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[QUOTE=The Controvert]  
Help me test out a hypothesis. Just answer the following questions with the first thing that pops into your mind. I will reveal the experiment and the results if we get enough responses to go past the first page. Thanks!

1. Name a black celebrity
2. Name a white celebrity
3. Name a hispanic celebrity
4. Name an Asian celebrity  
[/QUOTE]

1)James Brown  
2)Hank Williams  
3)Gloria Estefan  
4)Jet Li

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