# POLL: BCS Final Four Picks, What teams would they be? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 8, 2013, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818 "2013-12-08T13:56:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818/1 "2013-12-08T13:56:35Z")
Pick 4 only please (wait for Poll) With the loss of tOSU, the BCS game worked itself to a semi non controversial BCS Game between FSU and Auburn\*. But next season the BCS is going to a FINAL FOUR. What would be the two additional teams in the Final Four. I think arguments can be made for four teams by their fanbase. (Not that I necessarily agree with those claims). Four One loss teams from the power conferences. Alabama Michigan State Baylor Ohio State My other two picks for the hypothetical semis would be Sparty and Roll Tide but not 100% absolutely that either team belongs in the top 4. \*Semi-Non controversial Auburn? OK, there will be some Anti-SEC fans who don’t want an SEC in the game and would rather see a one loss Michigan State or a one loss Baylor in the game. That’s another discussion and another thread (I hope). ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818/2 "2013-12-08T14:10:59Z")
I think Bama is a no brainier for third. I chose Baylor over Sparty, but I could really go either way for the forth spot. > [@notfrommensa](#): > > \*Semi-Non controversial Auburn? OK, there will be some Anti-SEC fans who don’t want an SEC in the game and would rather see a one loss Michigan State or a one loss Baylor in the game. Those people aren’t paying attention, then. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818/3 "2013-12-08T14:27:29Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Pick 4 only please (wait for Poll) > > With the loss of tOSU, the BCS game worked itself to a semi non controversial BCS Game between FSU and Auburn\*. > > But next season the BCS is going to a FINAL FOUR. What would be the two additional teams in the Final Four. > > I think arguments can be made for four teams by their fanbase. (Not that I necessarily agree with those claims). Four One loss teams from the power conferences. > > Alabama > Michigan State > Baylor > **Ohio State** > > My other two picks for the hypothetical semis would be Sparty and Roll Tide but not 100% absolutely that either team belongs in the top 4. > > \*Semi-Non controversial Auburn? OK, there will be some Anti-SEC fans who don’t want an SEC in the game and would rather see a one loss Michigan State or a one loss Baylor in the game. That’s another discussion and another thread (I hope). This is meant to be FSU, right? ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818/4 "2013-12-08T14:30:20Z")
FSU Auburn Michigan State Stanford (changed from my poll) ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818/5 "2013-12-08T14:35:53Z")
> [@Darth\_Sensitive](#): > > This is meant to be FSU, right? I was talking about 2 of the 4 teams that are not FSU and Auburn that might have a claim for the other two spots. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818/6 "2013-12-08T14:50:07Z")
Going with the “who I would pick” not “who I think it’ll be”, I took: FSU Auburn Alabama Michigan State The last one is the only one I really struggled with. Baylor had a great run and would probably be a close 5 in my poll, but for some reason, I still don’t think they’re as good as their record. I could honestly make a case for either one in the 4 spot, but went with the Spartans over the Bears. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818/7 "2013-12-08T15:13:43Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > I was talking about 2 of the 4 teams that are not FSU and Auburn that might have a claim for the other two spots. I just can’t read. And I don’t know how I missed not having Auburn in what I thought were your 4. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818/8 "2013-12-08T15:22:22Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > I could honestly make a case for either one in the 4 spot, but went with the Spartans over the Bears. And that was basically my argument against going to a 4 team playoff rather than a 2 team playoff. Teams are going to get snubbed no matter how big the playoff is. Personally, I think the system works best with a two team playoff. We could go with hypotheticals until the cows come home, but what if Northern Illinois had won Friday night and been undefeated. And Clemson had beat South Carolina last week. Two more teams that would have a claim to be in the final 4. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818/9 "2013-12-08T16:06:34Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > And that was basically my argument against going to a 4 team playoff rather than a 2 team playoff. Teams are going to get snubbed no matter how big the playoff is. > > Personally, I think the system works best with a two team playoff. We could go with hypotheticals until the cows come home, but what if Northern Illinois had won Friday night and been undefeated. > > And Clemson had beat South Carolina last week. Two more teams that would have a claim to be in the final 4. My actual personal preference would be 8\*\* with the following rules: 5 AQ Champs\*, any non-AQ Champ ranked in Top12 or higher (based on something like the current BCS formula), at-large as necessary. This year that would give us FSU, Auburn, Michigan St, Stanford, and Baylor with 3 slots left - take Alabama, Stanford, and OSU. - Period - but dump AAC first - they’ve been gutted and it’s only going to get worse and give the Big12 3 years to get to 12 and institute a champ game or get cut to the non-AQ pool. That incents the “bubble” schools to get a real 6th conference together with the best of the best not already in \*\*Yes, I know what that does to the schedule: Cut one regular season game, 11 games (at least 8 must be in-conference, prefer 9). Conference Championship, 1 game 8-team, 1 game 4-team, 1 game 2-team (plus maybe some consolation stuff), 1 game Total 15 games (but only for the best of the best), everybody else plays 12. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818/10 "2013-12-08T18:02:18Z")
Interesting that the three posters who picked Ohio State did not pick Michigan State. I am trying to figure out that logic. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818/11 "2013-12-08T18:20:34Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > This year that would give us FSU, Auburn, Michigan St, Stanford, and Baylor with 3 slots left - take Alabama, Stanford, and OSU. Stanford gets two spots in the bracket? That doesn’t seem fair. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818/12 "2013-12-08T18:21:22Z")
I think FSU and Auburn are locks, so we’re really talking about who the other two teams should be. In my book, Bama is #3 and Baylor or Standford is #4. I went with Baylor because Standford wasn’t listed in the poll. If Ohio State had won yesterday, my final 4 would be FSU, Ohio State, Auburn, and Alabama…and I think we might see an Iron Bowl rematch for the title. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818/13 "2013-12-08T19:05:45Z")
FSU, Auburn, Baylor and Stanfurd – who is playing as well as anyone in the country. I initially had Bama instead of Baylor, but I have to ding them for not even winning their division, much less their conference. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818/14 "2013-12-08T19:08:27Z")
Stanford was not listed because it has two losses. But I gave a choice for another team. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818/15 "2013-12-08T19:33:19Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > Stanford gets two spots in the bracket? That doesn’t seem fair. Well, yeah. It’s for TV ratings - you wouldn’t understand cause it’s complicated. Shit. I checked that SO MANY TIMES. So take Alabama and OSU with an at-large remaining. Now we’ve at least moved the argument down to the two-loss schools and frankly, you take two losses you got nothin’ to bitch about when you get left out. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818/16 "2013-12-08T23:06:36Z")
Michigan State Ohio State Florida State Stanford ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818/17 "2013-12-08T23:50:22Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Michigan State > Ohio State > Florida State > Stanford You would take two loss Stanford over 1 loss Auburn and 1 loss Alabama? Not much to mention taking the runner up in the Big1$ over the actual winner of the SEC? Dude. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2013, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818/18 "2013-12-09T00:03:13Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > You would take two loss Stanford over 1 loss Auburn and 1 loss Alabama? Not much to mention taking the runner up in the Big1$ over the actual winner of the SEC? Dude. Can’t say that including Ohio State makes sense over Auburn - I’m assuming that’s a mistake. Ignoring a team that didn’t even win their division in favor of a conference winner doesn’t seem like a big slight. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2013, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818/19 "2013-12-09T00:21:30Z")
I can’t see putting a team in the Final Four that didn’t win its own conference. That has to mean something. So: FSU Auburn MSU Stanford ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2013, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818/20 "2013-12-09T01:04:01Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > You would take two loss Stanford over 1 loss Auburn and 1 loss Alabama? Not much to mention taking the runner up in the Big1$ over the actual winner of the SEC? Dude. Not impressed with Auburn’s schedule- West Carolina, Arkansas State, Florida Atlantic. The few big wins they had were squeakers. Or Alabama- victors over Chattanooga, Georgia State, and Colorado State. So they pounded points on patsies- color me unimpressed. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-bcs-final-four-picks-what-teams-would-they-be/675818.md?page=2)