# Poll: Betty or Veronica?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 1, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435 "2018-05-01T21:40:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/21 "2018-05-02T03:35:06Z")

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> [@Karen\_Lingel](#):
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> I’d have liked to see this poll divided by gender.
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> As a woman, I voted for the one I wanted to BE (rather than the one I want to shag.)

Yeah, me too. Betty, of course. If only because I have a terrible crush on her on again, off again boyfriend on Riverdale.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/22 "2018-05-02T03:50:07Z")

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Riverdale, neither one. The teen drama is a huge turnoff.

Otherwise Betty. I’m not entirely sure why Veronica would be a choice, unless you just wanted the benefit of her money. She’s rich and snooty–those are not attractive traits. I guess she’s supposed to be prettier?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/23 "2018-05-02T03:52:37Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> The only advantage that Veronica has over Betty is that she’s filthy rich. So… Betty gets richer at night?

I believe on Riverdale there’s some weird alternate personality Betty who comes out. That said, I watched only a small bit of the show, and haven’t watched those parts. I watched enough to know I wasn’t interested.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/24 "2018-05-02T05:49:35Z")

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> [@erysichthon](#):
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> Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Ginger and Mary Ann will be addressed in a future poll.

Mary Ann will win, hands down.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/25 "2018-05-02T06:14:14Z")

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You meant Betty Rubble, right?

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/26 "2018-05-02T12:16:26Z")

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It’s been over 50 years since I saw an _Archie_ comic, but Betty was the clear winner back then.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/27 "2018-05-02T13:57:10Z")

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> [@ftg](#):
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> It’s been over 50 years since I saw an _Archie_ comic, but Betty was the clear winner back then.

Yeppers. like **silenus** said, Ronnie would be too damn high-maintenance.

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**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/28 "2018-05-02T14:03:36Z")

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> [@Backwater\_Under\_Duck](#):
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> Betty, Betty again, Mary Ann, and Bailey are the correct answers to all of your questions.

My sentiments exactly.

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/29 "2018-05-02T14:14:29Z")

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Sorry, but Jughead get my vote.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/30 "2018-05-02T14:26:54Z")

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Poor Midge.

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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/31 "2018-05-02T14:37:01Z")

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Veronica. But my real goal would be a three-way with Daphne and Velma. We would get that van a-rockin and it ain’t gonna be no mystery.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/32 "2018-05-02T15:00:16Z")

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The OP doesn’t specify what we’re picking them for. If it’s a weekend of canoodling, Monday would probably arrive before Veronica’s faults made a difference. But then, while not an option, I’d have to throw my hat in for Cheryl Blossom. Again, I’m talking classic comics. As a side note, I just typed “Cheryl Blossom” into GIS and had to scroll past a million “Riverdale” actress photos before reaching the first comics cover.

I suppose you could add Miss Blossom for a rousing game of “Marry/Screw/Kill”

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/33 "2018-05-02T15:17:32Z")

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> [@kopek](#):
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> Veronica. But my real goal would be a three-way with Daphne and Velma. We would get that van a-rockin land it ain’t gonna be no mystery.

Darn, you meddlin’ kids!!

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/34 "2018-05-02T15:51:38Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Poor Midge.

She seems nice enough, but she’s too devoted to Moose. Not that I’m the Reggie type who would try to win her away.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/35 "2018-05-03T04:21:05Z")

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No love for Miss Grundy?

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/36 "2018-05-03T06:15:07Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> No love for Miss Grundy?

You know about her and Pop in the back room of the Chock’Lit Shoppe, right?

I thought of that reply, and then I googled Miss Grundy to see if it would violate canon. In her Wikipedia page is this:

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> In Riverdale, Miss Grundy is a much younger woman played by Sarah Habel. In the fourth episode of the series it is revealed that Grundy moved to Riverdale after changing her name from Jennifer Gibson after her divorce, to escape from an abusive relationship. Since then Grundy has moved from Riverdale to avoid police capture because of her relationship with Archie. When Betty is searching for Miss Grundy online, she finds a Miss Grundy who died years prior to the beginning of the series, with her obituary picture closely resembling the Miss Grundy of the comic book series. In the season two premiere, it is revealed she is living in Greendale and “teaching” another young male student, before she is strangled to death by Fred Andrews’ assailant with her own cello bow.

I give up.

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/37 "2018-05-03T08:22:10Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> No love for Miss Grundy?

Not into dom stuff.

Plus there’s what they did to her on [DEL]Smallville[/DEL]Riverdale, making her a young 30 year old who statutorily rapes Archie. (I didn’t see this, just read about it, so apologies if I missed some context a fan feels is important.)

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/38 "2018-05-03T13:27:00Z")

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> [@Backwater\_Under\_Duck](#):
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> Betty, …

You misspelled Wilma. I’d wait a million years for Wilma, but I know she’ll never leave Fred.

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/39 "2018-05-03T13:50:52Z")

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Well, I haven’t been an avid Archie reader since the 80’s, and I’m ONLY going to use the old comics as reference, not the new ones, or other media like the TV show.

While I might be a sucker for brunettes, that’s not enough. They look virtually identical other than hair color. Veronica’s a bitch. Betty has a much more relatable and humble personally. The only thing Veronica has over Betty is money. And it’s not really hers, it’s Daddy’s. Plus, I prefer women swooning over me (Betty), than than being pussy whipped (Veronica).

Screw her. If we mean Betty or Veronica for a quick lay, probably Veronica. Long term relationship? Betty. It isn’t even a contest.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/40 "2018-05-03T15:03:39Z")

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Of course, Veronica can’t be ALL bad and bitchy unless Betty is a complete tool for having her as a best friend. And Archie a complete tool for (sometimes) dating her despite Betty being available; he’s obviously not in it for the money. Both must see some redeeming qualities in Veronica.

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