# Poll: Betty or Veronica? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 1, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435 "2018-05-01T21:40:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/41 "2018-05-03T15:36:32Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Darn, you meddlin’ kids!! Somehow I was expecting something about “doggie style” first but that figured among my expected responses as well. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/42 "2018-05-03T16:11:14Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Of course, Veronica can’t be ALL bad and bitchy unless Betty is a complete tool for having her as a best friend. And Archie a complete tool for (sometimes) dating her despite Betty being available; he’s obviously not in it for the money. Both must see some redeeming qualities in Veronica. Nobody’s\* all\* bad. I did watch 1 episode before nopeing Riverdale. Veronica comes off a bit more sympathetic than she did in the old comics, plus she’s more my type physically. But I’m only going off the comics. I’d like to amend that I’d only go for Betty _if I were Archie_. I’d be extremely put off by her pining for Archie all the time, even if she was with me, and I think she might do that. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/43 "2018-05-03T16:22:09Z")
As an aside, here’s a picture of the Riverdale cast. [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9pvtEJ05GAE/maxresdefault.jpg](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9pvtEJ05GAE/maxresdefault.jpg) The guy on the right is supposed to be Jughead. What. The. Hell. They nailed the first 3 (guy even dyed his hair red), but now Jughead is Fonzie or something? Hell, even Fonzie looks more like Jughead than this guy. Jughead is a skinny, sleepy-eyed, big nosed dork. This is horrible miscast, or bad wardrobe, or both. He would _never_ go all James Dean like that. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/44 "2018-05-03T16:28:28Z")
[**In case anyone other than me wants to know who they are and what they look like.**](http://images.askmen.com/blogs/entertainment/betty-vs-veronica.jpg) They look like the exact same girl but with different hair. It would seem to me that it would simply boil down to whether one likes blondes or brunettes better. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/45 "2018-05-03T16:42:07Z")
> [@Baal\_Houtham](#): > > Of course black hair with blue highlights pretty much doesn’t exist outside the world of comics. Well, black hair pretty much is dark hair with bluish/cool highlights, or at least that’s the way I think of it, and one of the things that defines black hair from just very dark brown hair to me (dark brown hair has warm/reddish highlights.) I don’t know anything about their personalities, but I’d go Veronica, too. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/46 "2018-05-03T16:47:43Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > They look like the exact same girl but with different hair. Yeah, 90% of DeCarlo’s teenage girls were identical aside from the hair and maybe, if he was feeling creative, a swipe of freckles. The other 10% he’d maybe give them a stub nose or they were the “fat one” with a different body type. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/47 "2018-05-03T18:57:38Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Yeah, 90% of DeCarlo’s teenage girls were identical aside from the hair and maybe, if he was feeling creative, a swipe of freckles. The other 10% he’d maybe give them a stub nose or they were the “fat one” with a different body type. Yeah I always wondered why the Archie girls got the comma shaped nose tips, and Josie & co and Sabrina got the inverted u shaped nose tips. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/48 "2018-05-03T20:17:53Z")
[Ya ever see the Flintstones?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeDkGnyDv9o) > [@Red Dwarf](#): > > LISTER: D’ya think Wilma’s sexy? > > CAT: Wilma Flintstone? > > LISTER: Maybe we’ve been alone in deep space too long, but every time I see that body, it drives me crazy. Is it me? > > CAT: Well, I think in all probability, Wilma Flintstone is the most desirable woman that ever lived. > > LISTER: That’s good. I thought I was goin’ strange. > > CAT: She’s incredible! > > LISTER: What d’ya think of Betty? > > CAT: Betty Rubble? (Pause) Well, I would go with Betty… but I’d be thinking of Wilma. > > LISTER: This is crazy. Why are we talking about going to bed with Wilma Flintstone? > > CAT: You’re right. We’re nuts. This is an insane conversation. > > LISTER: She’ll never leave Fred, and we know it. ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/49 "2018-05-03T23:49:18Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Well, black hair pretty much is dark hair with bluish/cool highlights, or at least that’s the way I think of it, and one of the things that defines black hair from just very dark brown hair to me (dark brown hair has warm/reddish highlights.) > . A valid distinction I’d say. ---
**Author:** ![Smudge777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee59a6/32.png) [@Smudge777](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smudge777)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/50 "2018-05-04T01:29:10Z")
> [@erysichthon](#): > > If you don’t know who Betty and Veronica are, I question your patriotism. You Americans have strange ideas about patriotism. Especially when your idea of patriotism demands a love of American icons by non-Americans. ---
**Author:** ![P-man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/p-man/32/3606_2.png) [@P-man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/P-man)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/51 "2018-05-04T01:43:49Z")
Midge, even though Moose would kick my ass. Actually, in the later comics Big Ethel is not bad looking. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/52 "2018-05-04T04:56:26Z")
> [@Ashtura](#): > > As an aside, here’s a picture of the Riverdale cast. > > [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9pvtEJ05GAE/maxresdefault.jpg](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9pvtEJ05GAE/maxresdefault.jpg) > > The guy on the right is supposed to be Jughead. What. The. Hell. > > They nailed the first 3 (guy even dyed his hair red), but now Jughead is Fonzie or something? Hell, even Fonzie looks more like Jughead than this guy. > > Jughead is a skinny, sleepy-eyed, big nosed dork. This is horrible miscast, or bad wardrobe, or both. He would _never_ go all James Dean like that. TBCF, Jughead did not have a nose so much as a face-penis, not unlike Zonker Harris. That sort of feature is hard to actually reproduce in a live-action person. At the very least, it looks like they gave him a sad parody of that odd crown hat he always wore, though. From what I read here, it sounds like _Riverdell_ is considerably edgier than the original comic books, so a little deviation from the expected appearances sounds ok. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/53 "2018-05-04T11:44:05Z")
> [@Ashtura](#): > > As an aside, here’s a picture of the Riverdale cast. > > [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9pvtEJ05GAE/maxresdefault.jpg](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9pvtEJ05GAE/maxresdefault.jpg) OK, I voted Veronica in this poll, but if we’re using that particular real-life set of characters, I’m definitely a Betty fan. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/54 "2018-05-04T13:33:53Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > [**In case anyone other than me wants to know who they are and what they look like.**](http://images.askmen.com/blogs/entertainment/betty-vs-veronica.jpg) > > They look like the exact same girl but with different hair. It would seem to me that it would simply boil down to whether one likes blondes or brunettes better. The real reasons to prefer Betty (assuming Betty and Veronica as they were in the 1960s-vintage comics) were in how the two acted, rather than how they looked. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/55 "2018-05-04T16:01:08Z")
> [@Smudge777](#): > > You Americans have strange ideas about patriotism. Especially when your idea of patriotism demands a love of American icons by non-Americans. Um, I’m pretty sure that was a joke. I guess you have to be American to get it. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/56 "2018-05-04T19:24:52Z")
> [@Ashtura](#): > > As an aside, here’s a picture of the Riverdale cast. > > [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9pvtEJ05GAE/maxresdefault.jpg](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9pvtEJ05GAE/maxresdefault.jpg) > > The guy on the right is supposed to be Jughead. What. The. Hell. > > They nailed the first 3 (guy even dyed his hair red), but now Jughead is Fonzie or something? Hell, even Fonzie looks more like Jughead than this guy. > > Jughead is a skinny, sleepy-eyed, big nosed dork. This is horrible miscast, or bad wardrobe, or both. He would _never_ go all James Dean like that. I don’t agree that they got any of them right, but especially not Archie. The hair is just so obviously fake. I cannot buy that he’s a redhead. Veronica doesn’t look rich enough, and Betty doesn’t look Girl Next Door enough. And, yes, Jughead looks off, though his clothing choices in the actual show are better–including the hat. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/57 "2018-05-06T19:30:54Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > No love for Miss Grundy? > [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > You know about her and Pop in the back room of the Chock’Lit Shoppe, right? The real question is whether Mr. Weatherbee knows. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/58 "2018-05-08T17:08:11Z")
Mary Ann. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/59 "2018-05-08T19:22:16Z")
I am reminded of an old joke about how to tell the difference between Laverne and Shirley. Laverne give a blowjob on the second date, Shirley never does. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435/60 "2018-05-08T20:09:59Z")
Now that that is settled, can we have a poll for Daria v. Jane? Or Quinn, and the Fashion Club? Were Daria and Jane supposed to be attractive? It’s difficult to tell with animated characters. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-betty-or-veronica/813435.md?page=4)