# Poll for "ethical" vegetarians/vegans: is eating meat unethical for everybody?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-ethical-vegetarians-vegans-is-eating-meat-unethical-for-everybody/560595>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 13, 2010, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-ethical-vegetarians-vegans-is-eating-meat-unethical-for-everybody/560595 "2010-11-13T22:08:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-ethical-vegetarians-vegans-is-eating-meat-unethical-for-everybody/560595/61 "2010-11-17T05:38:10Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> I think you just proved my point–using “moral language” just says more about the speaker’s attitude about their opinion.

What moral language? I never used that phrase. Not sure what you mean.

Do you really think that there are just ‘opinions,’ and that’s that? There are no differences between types of opinion?

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> And the part about going to jail is a complete non sequitur–you can’t go to jail for doing something immoral (you’d need to do something illegal to do that).

And that’s completely unconnected to what most people consider immoral, is it?

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-ethical-vegetarians-vegans-is-eating-meat-unethical-for-everybody/560595/62 "2010-11-18T02:36:04Z")

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> [@scifisam2009](#):
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> What moral language? I never used that phrase. Not sure what you mean.
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> Do you really think that there are just ‘opinions,’ and that’s that? There are no differences between types of opinion?

By “moral language” I just meant saying “that’s immoral” or talking about a person’s “moral responsibility” etc.–basically the whole panoply of stuff people say that involves the word “moral.”

And I think I’ve explained my opinion on your last two questions. They are just opinions that give more information about what the speaker means.

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> And that’s completely unconnected to what most people consider immoral, is it?

I never said that and don’t believe it. All I said was that it’s ridiculous to speak of going to jail for doing something immoral–you’d have to do something illegal to go to jail. If that illegal action is also immoral in some person’s opinion, then OK, whatever, but it doesn’t change the fact that you can’t go to jail just for doing something immoral.

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