# Poll for people who've seen Avengers \*SPOILERS\* **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 24, 2012, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-people-whove-seen-avengers-spoilers/622897 "2012-05-24T00:20:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-people-whove-seen-avengers-spoilers/622897/41 "2012-05-24T20:26:23Z")
> [@Bakhesh](#): > > Spoiler Nitpick > > Death would refuse to speak directly to Thanos, because he was so far beneath him he was unworthy When he was wearing the Infinity Gauntlet, he became so powerful that she wouldn’t speak to him because he was so superior to her that it was her that became unworthy Jeez, the guy just can’t win, can he…? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-people-whove-seen-avengers-spoilers/622897/42 "2012-05-24T20:40:38Z")
Cap can’t just ask Iron Man for help with everything, because Iron Man has got his own problems to deal with. There are plenty of problems that need one superhero to deal with, but which don’t need two. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-people-whove-seen-avengers-spoilers/622897/43 "2012-05-24T20:43:45Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > And, yes, I recognized Thanos. Who I didn’t recognize were the _Skrulls_. Chitauri _who_? (edit: yes, I know they’re Ultimate stuff) I never made the Skrull connection, myself. To me, they were generic alien cannon fodder, is all, and the way they all conveniently collapsed reminded me (not pleasantly, either) of what happened in _Phantom Menace_ after Cousin Oliver destroyed the droid control ship. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-people-whove-seen-avengers-spoilers/622897/44 "2012-05-24T20:56:27Z")
I suspected when he first spoke to Loki, not having been spoiled. He is one of the few who could get away with speaking to Loki like that. I, too, had a geek-asm when it was confirmed. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-people-whove-seen-avengers-spoilers/622897/45 "2012-05-24T21:13:33Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > I disbelieve in you and your strange Frenchish verbiage. S’true, though. If I had a fiancee I wouldn’t be getting married in South Carolina, at least. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-people-whove-seen-avengers-spoilers/622897/46 "2012-05-24T21:25:30Z")
So, I’m the only one who knew who Thanos was who didn’t guess it was him after the ‘courting Death’ line? (I mean, I got the joke, once Thanos was revealed, I just didn’t take the hint immediately.) ---
**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-people-whove-seen-avengers-spoilers/622897/47 "2012-05-24T21:26:11Z")
I thought it was Hellboy. Then my girlfriend told me that Hellboy’s supposed to be good. Shows how little I know. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-people-whove-seen-avengers-spoilers/622897/48 "2012-05-24T22:42:39Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > and the way they all conveniently collapsed reminded me (not pleasantly, either) of what happened in _Phantom Menace_ after Cousin Oliver destroyed the droid control ship. That’s exactly what I thought when that happened. Though I should have thought of it earlier - there a numerous instances in comic books where the heroes realize that they’re fighting automatons, _not_ living creatures and say, “Good! No need to hold back!” and then proceed to tear !@#$ up. The heroes in the movie didn’t hesitate to start “killing”, so I assume they realized the aliens were automatons. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-people-whove-seen-avengers-spoilers/622897/49 "2012-05-24T23:28:11Z")
Nah…they just knew they were in a war, and look at the makeup of the team: Cap: Soldier. Hawkeye: Soldier. Widow: Spy and assassin. Hulk: Mindless engine of destruction. Thor: Warrior god. Iron Man: Former arms manufacturer with an only recently grown conscience. Given the circumstances, they’ll all kill, no matter what the nature of the enemy. (Also, note the general lack of reluctance to kill during the raid on the Helicarrier, despite Loki’s troops being human, and at least some of them mind-controlled.) ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-people-whove-seen-avengers-spoilers/622897/50 "2012-05-25T00:11:54Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > That’s exactly what I thought when that happened. Though I should have thought of it earlier - there a numerous instances in comic books where the heroes realize that they’re fighting automatons, _not_ living creatures and say, “Good! No need to hold back!” and then proceed to tear !@#$ up. The heroes in the movie didn’t hesitate to start “killing”, so I assume they realized the aliens were automatons. That doesn’t seem to be a concern for heroes in the Marvel films. One of the first things Tony Stark does when he gets his prototype suit working in the first Iron Man movie is just straight-up[hose some dudes down with napalm.](http://movietruth.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/mark13.jpg) Captain America, of course, killed Nazis left and right in his movie. Thor attacked a killed a whole bunch of Frost Giants for no reason in his film. In fact - someone correct me if I’m wrong, but the only superhero from this movie who we haven’t seen kill whole bunch of dudes is the Hulk, isn’t it? The big scary dude that’s got everyone freaked out has the lowest body count of the major cast members. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-people-whove-seen-avengers-spoilers/622897/51 "2012-05-25T00:58:00Z")
> [@chrisk](#): > > And that wasn’t the ending stinger. That was a penultimate credits scene. The ending stinger was the shawarma place. 🙂 Ah, I didn’t realize there was another “true” stinger. I stand corrected. Guess I missed the shawarma scene, care to tell me what happened in that one? > [@Tengu](#): > > So, I’m the only one who knew who Thanos was who didn’t guess it was him after the ‘courting Death’ line? (I mean, I got the joke, once Thanos was revealed, I just didn’t take the hint immediately.) Same here. I knew him by sight after he turned and then I was all “OH, courting Death… heh, because he’s in love with his indifferent dark mistress, good one Joss” > [@Miller](#): > > That doesn’t seem to be a concern for heroes in the Marvel films. One of the first things Tony Stark does when he gets his prototype suit working in the first Iron Man movie is just straight-up[hose some dudes down with napalm.](http://movietruth.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/mark13.jpg) Captain America, of course, killed Nazis left and right in his movie. Thor attacked a killed a whole bunch of Frost Giants for no reason in his film. In fact - someone correct me if I’m wrong, but the only superhero from this movie who we haven’t seen kill whole bunch of dudes is the Hulk, isn’t it? The big scary dude that’s got everyone freaked out has the lowest body count of the major cast members. Killing doesn’t seem to be as much of an issue for most comic book heroes transplanted into movies. I suspect the decades of living under the comics code is the main reason for that. Even though now it’s all or mostly defunct, it’s now sort of a tradition for heroes not to kill in general. Since the MPAA isn’t nearly as restrictive, and most non-comic based action heroes are racking up body counts into the triple digits, the filmmakers just figure they’ve gotta do something to keep up. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-people-whove-seen-avengers-spoilers/622897/52 "2012-05-25T01:32:34Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Ah, I didn’t realize there was another “true” stinger. I stand corrected. Guess I missed the shawarma scene, care to tell me what happened in that one? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Which was the beauty of the scene. ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-people-whove-seen-avengers-spoilers/622897/53 "2012-05-25T01:35:52Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Which was the beauty of the scene. Well, that’s not entirely true. There was some chewing. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![chizzuk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@chizzuk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chizzuk)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-people-whove-seen-avengers-spoilers/622897/54 "2012-05-25T04:52:39Z")
I didn’t know until I read this thread. The only characters I recognized were Captain America and the Hulk. And there was a “hey, it’s Scarlett Johansson and Robert Downey Jr” moment. I went to the movie because I like action films and people said it was good. But I didn’t know any background about any of the characters. I am not a comic book person. I saw Star Trek knowing nothing beyond the fact that there was a guy named Spock and I think I got into the swing of things quicker with that film than with the Avengers, but I still enjoyed it. I would say figuring out SHIELD and the Tesseract took me a good 20-25 minutes, though. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-people-whove-seen-avengers-spoilers/622897/55 "2012-05-25T17:12:31Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > In fact - someone correct me if I’m wrong, but the only superhero from this movie who we haven’t seen kill whole bunch of dudes is the Hulk, isn’t it? The big scary dude that’s got everyone freaked out has the lowest body count of the major cast members. As far as I can tell, Hulk never kills anyone. There are always parachutes or radio messages (“we crashed but we’re okay!”) or that guy (bemused but completely unharmed) standing next to his tank that Hulk just threw two miles across the desert. The one time he really tries to kill a guy, Emil Blonsky, the guy gets better. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-people-whove-seen-avengers-spoilers/622897/56 "2012-05-25T18:03:53Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > So, I’m the only one who knew who Thanos was who didn’t guess it was him after the ‘courting Death’ line? (I mean, I got the joke, once Thanos was revealed, I just didn’t take the hint immediately.) You’re not only not the only one, you got the joke quicker than I did. I recognized Thanos as soon as they showed him, but it wasn’t after the movie was over that I saw the double entendre: “Oh, _court_ Death!” :smack: I initially thought the “death” reference was a play on his name and didn’t even think about the “court” part. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-people-whove-seen-avengers-spoilers/622897/57 "2012-05-25T19:48:59Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > or that guy (bemused but completely unharmed) standing next to his tank that Hulk just threw two miles across the desert. Now see, they should use that scene in the “[Click It or Ticket](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=652942)” ad campaign. Clearly, the guy in the tank was strapped in 😃 ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-people-whove-seen-avengers-spoilers/622897/58 "2012-05-26T06:38:19Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Which was the beauty of the scene. > [@Lasciel](#): > > Well, that’s not entirely true. There was some chewing. 😃 C’mon now, don’t be a tease! Who was chewing? ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-people-whove-seen-avengers-spoilers/622897/59 "2012-05-26T06:40:31Z")
I thought the guy was Thrall, tbh.\* (Why, no, I _haven’t_ read any of the comics; why do you ask?) 😛 \*though I realized it probably wasn’t [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-people-whove-seen-avengers-spoilers/622897.md?page=2)