# Poll for the single men. **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 7, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240 "2009-07-07T19:51:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240/101 "2009-07-10T14:23:49Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > I am indeed. I don’t think your self-esteem is high enough. 🙂 Oh, you are so sweet! But if you really cared, you’d e-mail me pictures of your boobs. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240/102 "2009-07-10T14:25:48Z")
> [@Baby\_Driver](#): > > **tdn** ’s post #78. Man can hardly say fairer (at least on a message board). Thanks! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240/103 "2009-07-10T14:29:26Z")
> [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](#): > > I guess it’s a veneer masking the fact that you`re such a fucking downer. :rolleyes: How dare I suggest that unattractive people exist. Please. I’m sorry my reality conflicts with your perception. ---
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240/104 "2009-07-10T14:34:55Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > No, you are not being realistic. You’re trolling for sympathy. I know, I’ve been there. I lived the lifestyle, and I fucking invented the t-shirt. I know what it’s like to wallow in self-pity. There’s an odd sort of comfort that comes from it. But it’s a prison of your own making. Sigh. You really think I’m just trying to get sympathy? Fine. I’ve said my bit, as my experience has taught me. I’m sorry it conflicts with what other people think on here. I certainly wouldn’t want people to think that I’m just looking for pity. I’m done. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240/105 "2009-07-10T14:38:07Z")
> [@hotflungwok](#): > > Sigh. You really think I’m just trying to get sympathy? Fine. I’ve said my bit, as my experience has taught me. I’m sorry it conflicts with what other people think on here. I certainly wouldn’t want people to think that I’m just looking for pity. I’m done. I’m sorry you feel that way. I sincerely wish you a brighter future. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240/106 "2009-07-10T14:38:48Z")
> [@hotflungwok](#): > > :rolleyes: How dare I suggest that unattractive people exist. Please. I’m sorry my reality conflicts with your perception. I didn`t say unattractive people don`t exist. I said it’s very realistic to improve your appearance if you’re interested in trying and more importantly that there are a lot of people out there who’re more interested in your personality and your disposition. I think you should improve both. But that’s not even why I called you a downer. I called you a downer because you haven`t said even one positive thing in the entire thread. Do you happen to live in a little stick lean-to that collapses when butterflies land on it? ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240/107 "2009-07-10T14:44:58Z")
> [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](#): > > Do you happen to live in a little stick lean-to that collapses when butterflies land on it? I think I built that place. I should be collecting rent! ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240/108 "2009-07-10T15:43:08Z")
> [@fuzzy dunlop](#): > > do you happen to live in a little stick lean-to that collapses when butterflies land on it? are you calling me fat?!? ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240/109 "2009-07-10T15:48:19Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > are you calling me fat?!? oh that’s adorable. I was calling him Eeyore, by the way, in case my clever joke has wooshed everyone. I should have said “are you a donkey stuffed with sawdust with a tail prone to falling off” but I do like to be subtle. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240/110 "2009-07-10T15:49:16Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > are you calling me fat?!? No baby, you look great! It’s just those pants that make you look that way. Actually, it’s your entire wardrobe. Have you considered raising your standards and shopping at Goodwill? ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240/111 "2009-07-10T15:51:45Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Oh, you are so sweet! But if you really cared, you’d e-mail me pictures of your boobs. Whoa, I never realized cameras could squint! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240/112 "2009-07-10T16:10:24Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > Whoa, I never realized cameras could squint! 😃 That’s not a squint, that’s steam. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240/113 "2009-07-10T16:24:27Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > No baby, you look great! It’s just those pants that make you look that way. Actually, it’s your entire wardrobe. > > Have you considered raising your standards and shopping at Goodwill? And how is it that some woman hasn’t snatched you up!? ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240/114 "2009-07-10T16:29:51Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > And how is it that some woman hasn’t snatched you up!? They keep trying, but teasing you is way more fun. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240/115 "2009-07-10T16:36:14Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > I’d really like to see some of you “ugly” people. I can’t believe all you fun, witty posters are actually a bunch of gargoyles. Whoa now, let’s not be hasty. I have a habit of encountering already-otherwise-engaged (figuratively and literally) women… but I think I’m fairly cute. I just fail at luck. Stupid dice. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240/116 "2009-07-10T18:50:23Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > They keep trying, but teasing you is way more fun. On reflection, that was probably a little harsh. I apologize. It was meant in good fun, not as an insult. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240/117 "2009-07-10T20:20:35Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > On reflection, that was probably a little harsh. I apologize. It was meant in good fun, not as an insult. Oh I know that, no worries! If I was fat it might sting, but then again if I was fat I’d have been foolish to _start_ with the teasing about it. Plus, if my bank account could talk it would tell you that it _wishes_ I’d shop at Goodwill 😉 I thought it was funny, so no worries. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240/118 "2009-07-10T20:31:02Z")
OK, good! I was feeling a little bad about it. Even though I know you’re in great shape, I know that a lot of women have body issues, so I think it’s best to shy away from that sort of teasing. Height is fair game, though. And I love short women! ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240/119 "2009-07-11T06:24:29Z")
As someone who is newly single after many years, I have no idea how to read women anymore. To be honest I was never very good at it. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240/120 "2009-07-11T12:40:19Z")
> [@Enfant Terrible](#): > > Whoa now, let’s not be hasty. I have a habit of encountering already-otherwise-engaged (figuratively and literally) women… but I think I’m fairly cute. I just fail at luck. > > Stupid dice. I’ve made a few of observations that you guys may find interesting or helpful. For one, when I was horrible at this stuff, I was amazed at how many women had boyfriends. “Oh, that’s sweet, but I have a boyfriend” was something that I heard all the time. When I started adopting a better attitude, suddenly fewer and fewer women were attached. The Stupid dice started changing into Lucky dice. I had an experience a few weeks ago where I saw a certain very cute woman several times a week. She always made it a point to say hello, even when it was inconvenient for her to do so. I finally decided to talk to her and find out who she is. As it turns out she owns a house, and oh yeah, something about a roommate, and oh yeah, he’s been living in the house for yada yada mumble mumble. I think she was trying to hide that she has a boyfriend! Now, I have no interest in breaking up relationships. I won’t go down that path. But isn’t it interesting that the number of women in relationships goes down as your confidence goes up? For another thing, a lot of guys say “I want women to love me for who I am” or “I don’t want to manipulate women just to get them to like me.” Well guess what? When you don’t do the inner work on yourself, you are NOT who you really are, and you already ARE manipulating women. Working on this stuff is a path to authenticity, and that’s a powerful aphrodesiac. A woman of quality can tell when you’re faking it. If you haven’t learned this stuff and you try talking to women, you come off as trying to take something from them. When you’ve got your life together, every interaction that you have is a gift to them. It’s like handing out ice cream on a hot day. I’ve read on this board that the only women pathetic enough to fall for this stuff must have really low self-esteem. No! When you get this stuff, you start to learn to weed out the women who are going to be bad for you. You start to feel like you deserve the type of women that feel like they deserve the best. Lastly, since getting this stuff is not really about getting chicks but being the best version of you that you can be, you’ll start to see every other area of your life improve. Your job, your friendships, your family relationships, and your overall happiness will skyrocket. I hope that was useful. I’m loving life right now. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-for-the-single-men/502240.md?page=7)