# POLL: Honestly, did you believe Umkay's story before she was outed? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 26, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375 "2012-06-26T18:46:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CyclopticXander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@CyclopticXander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CyclopticXander)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375/1 "2012-06-26T18:46:27Z")
I know we don’t need yet another Umkay thread, so we can keep the arguing and speculation for the other ones. I’m just really curious at how many people here were really the super sleuths they say they were, and how many of us were just dupes. So let’s be honest in this annonymous poll, of course you can make your vote public and clarify in the discussion if you like. ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375/2 "2012-06-26T18:48:46Z")
No. EDIT: Don’t have to be a super sleuth to think someone is being an attention whore or just trolling a whole message board. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375/3 "2012-06-26T18:48:53Z")
There’s no poll yet but… I didn’t know/suspect she was fake but I also never read past the first few pages and didn’t contribute at all to the thread. So I didn’t invest much energy into wondering/caring if she was legit or not. ---
**Author:** ![DeepLiquid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deepliquid/32/14893_2.png) [@DeepLiquid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeepLiquid)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375/4 "2012-06-26T18:49:31Z")
Sure I did, I’m gullible that way. It just doesn’t occur to me that people would go to the trouble of lying, then having to keep up all the lies of a fake persona. ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375/5 "2012-06-26T18:51:36Z")
Seemed fishy to me/wasn’t surprised how it turned out. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375/6 "2012-06-26T18:53:38Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > There’s no poll yet but… > > I didn’t know/suspect she was fake but I also never read past the first few pages and didn’t contribute at all to the thread. So I didn’t invest much energy into wondering/caring if she was legit or not. That’s pretty much my take on it. As I previously mentioned elsewhere, I thought her disposition was a little too cheery, but I wasn’t really thinking there was any reason to doubt her. ETA: Wait. At what point? After she came back from the dead I most certainly started having suspicions at that point. But not during her “Ask the Wheelchair Chick” or whatever it was called. ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375/7 "2012-06-26T18:54:08Z")
Sure I did, but I only took a cursory look at her posts. A good liar should always be able to fool someone who really doesn’t care one way or the other. My folks knew a guy once who claimed to have been a catcher for the Mets. They had no reason to doubt him, so they believed the dude. I gave \*The Baseball Encyclopedia \*a quick glance, more out of curiousity than anything else. (This was before the days of ubiquitous Internet information, you understand.) Lo and behold, he was nowhere to be found. Y’know, I think they still believe that guy over me. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375/8 "2012-06-26T18:57:27Z")
It was a thread which I simply skimmed over; biographical threads rarely interest me, so I voted Other. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375/9 "2012-06-26T18:59:30Z")
I only read the first page or so of her “ask the…” thread, and the first five or so posts of the other thread, so I didn’t really see enough to be suspicious. When I found out she was a fraud I was surprised but not shocked, since I wasn’t really invested. Every once in a while I’d see the thread and think “wow that thread is sure hanging around” but that’s about it. Isn’t yet another thread about her(?) just continuing to reward the trollery? ---
**Author:** ![CyclopticXander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@CyclopticXander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CyclopticXander)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375/10 "2012-06-26T19:04:26Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Isn’t yet another thread about her(?) just continuing to reward the trollery? Maybe. But I think his/her trollery has pretty much been fully rewarded already and will continue to be for a while I’m pretty sure. And I’ve been curious about this so what the heck. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375/11 "2012-06-26T19:05:21Z")
I read the entire “Ask the…” thread and participated in it, and also exchanged a couple of PMs with her. I didn’t suspect anything until the odd death announcement, and wasn’t sure until the revelation of **sezyou**. Not sure what the proper vote in your poll should be. ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375/12 "2012-06-26T19:07:28Z")
I voted that I was a believer; but that’s only because I never read past the first page. So, yes I believed, but I wasn’t interested enough in the “ask the quadriplegic” thread to go beyond that. (that IS what this is in reference to, right?) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375/13 "2012-06-26T19:08:19Z")
Other. I moused over the “Ask the…” and “Should I date…” threads but didn’t read either one. Didn’t even remember the poster’s name until the whole thing blew up. ---
**Author:** ![CyclopticXander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@CyclopticXander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CyclopticXander)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375/14 "2012-06-26T19:09:39Z")
> [@Asimovian](#): > > I read the entire “Ask the…” thread and participated in it, and also exchanged a couple of PMs with her. I didn’t suspect anything until the odd death announcement, and wasn’t sure until the revelation of **sezyou**. > > Not sure what the proper vote in your poll should be. That was my situation too. Yea I should have put an option for belief until Notokay, but for the spirit of the question I would say your answer is “yes”. ---
**Author:** ![CyclopticXander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@CyclopticXander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CyclopticXander)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375/15 "2012-06-26T19:11:10Z")
> [@Enright3](#): > > (that IS what this is in reference to, right?) Yes. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375/16 "2012-06-26T19:13:30Z")
I wasn’t paying that much attention, but I didn’t question the “ask the” premise. Did it become extraordinary? I did raise an eyebrow at the whole back from the dead thing. And I feel bad for Frosty. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375/17 "2012-06-26T19:17:25Z")
Other - until the shit hit the fan, the whole thing flew under my radar. After the fact it was a matter of, “oh, that chick who started the wheelchair thread.” I didn’t really know enough about the whole thing to ‘believe’ anything. Past that, I didn’t really give too many turds about the whole thing. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375/18 "2012-06-26T19:17:32Z")
I don’t believe or pay attention to anyone who joins a message board specifically to talk about their issues. If you’re a relatively new poster, and the first threads that you start are “help me with this personal problem” or “please console me”, you’re not going to see me participating in that thread - because the track record of such threads on this board has been overwhelmingly poor (in my experience, admittedly chock full of confirmation bias). Why people continue to engage and feed such threads is absolutely beyond me. ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375/19 "2012-06-26T19:17:52Z")
Oh I freely admit that I fell for it, read the whole Ask thread and ate it all up. I even fell for the whole dead/not dead bit. She was engaging and fun. I should have noticed some things and I clearly see them now, but that is hindsight. I am not upset by this anymore but I was and I have no idea what her motives were. Here is a post I made on the subject, I hope you all enjoy my foolishness > [@](#): > > Yes Virginia there is an umkay > I came to the Dope in search of knowledge and firmly believe that most of us did as well, I do not lie on the Dope and believe that most of you tell the truth as well, I stay out of the PIT because I see enough of the dark side of Humanity. Call me naive, call me a fool, tell me I over use commas and write run-on sentences but I have no doubt as to the veracity of umkay. > > notokay you have violated me and mine as well as the rules we here all try to abide by. I have no idea of what you were trying to accomplish but what you have done is made an enemy of me. This is my home, our home and you shat on the living room carpet. Do not find yourself in a room alone with me or you will live up to your screen name notokay. > > The people here might be ones and zeros but they are, to me, as real as my flesh and blood friends. I rise every day and check in on my fellow Mumpers, see if I have any truths for GQ, opine in IMHO and even check out GD. I am a proud Doper, if still a newbie. > > I am not sure that I have a point here, other than my anger at YKW and maybe this post belongs in the pit so apologies to all the Dopers and Mods if it does. I am just glad that we got our girl back, crazy flying chair O’death and all. Enjoy that? I sure hope you did. I really don’t mind being wrong but I missed the boat on this one. **CAPT** ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375/20 "2012-06-26T19:20:50Z")
I really didn’t pay attention. The “Should I date a devote” thread rang two bells in my brain: the Trolling Bell and the Wow, I Don’t Care Bell. The “ask the quadriplegic girl” thread completely failed to interest me so it wasn’t until I realized they were the same person that I figured troll. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-honestly-did-you-believe-umkays-story-before-she-was-outed/626375.md?page=2)