My understanding of those private property signs is that if you are found to have a weapon there, it is not a crime. The management may ask you to leave, and if you don’t then it becomes a trespassing crime (that is how it was explained to me in GA, but I was never asked to leave an establishment with those signs).
Correct, although as I said previously my gun is not that concealable even with a “pancake” holster, and openly flouting the sign is kinda asshole-ish, so I don’t.
Well, a lot of off-duty cops do, and some portion of the people involved in going criminal enterprises, as well as the aforementioned diamond transporters. It’s an extremely small percentage overall, though, compared to most other parts of the U.S. Virtually no one (except perhaps the off-duty cops) carries without a compelling need. There’s no “Gee, I think I would prefer to carry a gun around town.”
This came up after Plaxico Burress shot himself in the leg. New York City has among the most restrictive gun laws in the United States (see: Sullivan Act). Essentially, you have to be connected out the wazoo, be one of the aforementioned “diamond transporters” or carrying something of similar value, like the day’s receipts (and even that is no guarantee, NYC is a “may issue” jurisdiction), or simply carry illegally, which happens far more frequently than you might imagine.
So yes, they do have carry in NYC, but most are breaking the law when they do so. If you read the history of the law, it was devised for that very purpose, to restrict carry to those who are friends of the boss, as it were. While that works out well for making prima facie cases against gang members, drug dealers, and various other unsavory elements, it does nothing for the remainder of the population that might feel compelled to exercise their rights.
What state do you live in that having a CCW and carrying would be illegal? It’s the CCW that makes it legal!
No weapons here (we have kids with teasing / bullying issues so even if we wanted to, having weapons available in the house would be a Bad Idea).
Even if we owned weapons, I doubt I’d get a CCW. The utility of such a thing seems to me to be near zero.
Plus, even if I carried, it’d probably be like the first few years I had a cell phone (and rarely remembered to bring it, or would forget to turn it on if I had it with me). “Robbery! Whoops, shit, that’s not a gun in my purse!”.
(in case anyone’s interested, the bit about bullying and access to guns is borne out by numerous cites:
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/toronto/archive/2009/02/09/bloor-west-village-school-looks-for-answers-after-bullying-victim-brings-gun-to-school.aspx
And this is why my guns use combo locks rather than key locks–can’t steal a lock combination out of dad’s coat pocket.
hende is in Wisconsin, which along with Illinois and DC are no-issue. Doors asked about whether people carry, and did not ask specifically about CCW. While CCW is one way to carry, it isn’t the only way.
Georgia resident, ex-cop.
I have a GA and FL CCW so that my legal carry options are widespread.
If I leave the house, I have at least one firearm, sometimes 2.
The world around us is less safe than many people realize. I have been a victim, and never will be again if at all possible. I feel strongly about protecting my family as well, and stepping up to protect others if necessary/possible.
You will never know I am armed unless trouble jumps off, and then folks should probably be a little less snarky and a lot more thankful for us “gun nuts”.
I don’t want to start or engage in a right/wrong debate here, but if you are denying yourself and your family the protection a firearm can provide solely because of children in the house, you need to wise up. This is no longer a valid reason for not keeping a gun in your home.
Several companies make an instant-access safethat will thwart burglars and children alike, yet give you the access you may need one day.
If your child is being bullied, he can’t take a gun he can’t access.