# Poll III **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [February 16, 2007, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-iii/392481 "2007-02-16T14:58:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-iii/392481/1 "2007-02-16T14:58:40Z")
This is the final poll in a three part series. Feel free to participate even if you did not participate in either of the previous two. You may elect to make as many or as few selections as you like. Expounding on your selections would be greatly appreciated, but is not required. After this poll has closed, I’ll evaluate the responses and post a new thread explaining what the poll was about and announcing the results. It’ll likely take a long time to tabulate everything, and I won’t want to do it in one sitting I’m sure. So it may be a couple weeks or more before I can finish. (Note to the posters who posted after Poll II closed: I have included your responses.) Thanks for participating. 🙂 ==================================== 1. “Klaatu barada nikto” or “May the Force be with you” 2. Slim Elvis or Fat Elvis 3. A Whiter Shade of Pale or The Dark Side of the Moon 4. Don’t Tread On Me or One Nation Under God 5. “Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!” or “Do you have Prince Albert in a can?” 6. Rule Britannia or Pomp and Circumstance 7. Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter 8. Oxford or Cambridge 9. The Iliad or The Odyssey 10. “A thing must have an identity before it can exist” or “A thing must exist before it can have an identity” 11. Edgar Alan Poe or Ralph Waldo Emerson 12. “Even the inner and sensible intuition of our mind (as object of consciousness) which is represented as being determined by the succession of different states in time, is not the self proper, as it exists in itself — that is, is not the transcendental subject — but only an appearance that has been given to the sensibility of this, to us unknown, being.” (Kant) or “Something unknown is doing we don’t know what.” (Eddington) 1. Twenty minutes of bagpipes or Two minutes of stomach cramps 2. Judo or Karate 3. Bing Crosby or Patsy Cline 4. Mr. Burns or Mr. Spacely 5. Mahatma Gandhi or Nelson Mandela 6. Rice or Pasta 7. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise or Chili mustard and slaw Bonus Question: Which is more important — how or why? ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-iii/392481/2 "2007-02-16T15:11:14Z")
==================================== 1. “Klaatu barada nikto” 2. Slim Elvis 3. The Dark Side of the Moon 4. Don’t Tread On Me 5.Do you have Prince Albert in a can?" 1. Pomp and Circumstance 2. Bill Clinton 3. Cambridge 4. The Iliad 5. “A thing must have an identity before it can exist” 6. Ralph Waldo Emerson 7. “Something unknown is doing we don’t know what.” (Eddington) 8. Twenty minutes of bagpipes 9. Judo 10. Patsy Cline 11. Mr. Spacely 12. Nelson Mandela 13. Rice 14. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise Bonus Question: Which is more important — how ---
**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-iii/392481/3 "2007-02-16T15:15:24Z")
1. “Klaatu barada nikto” or “May the Force be with you” May the force be with you. Star Wars was so much more entertaining. 2. Slim Elvis or Fat Elvis Slim Elvis. Better music. 3. A Whiter Shade of Pale or The Dark Side of the Moon Whiter Shade of Pale… but I like both. 4. Don’t Tread On Me or One Nation Under God Don’t Tread on Me 5. “Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!” or “Do you have Prince Albert in a can?” Fly in my soup 6. Hail Britannia or Pomp and Circumstance Pomp and Circumstance 7. Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter Bill Clinton. He’s smarter. 8. Oxford or Cambridge Oxford of course. 9. The Iliad or The Odyssey Odyssey. Monsters are fun. 10. “A thing must have an identity before it can exist” or “A thing must exist before it can have an identity” The second one. Vague memories of getting angry during semiotics class. 11. Edgar Alan Poe or Ralph Waldo Emerson Edgar Alan Poe. So cute. 12. “Even the inner and sensible intuition of our mind (as object of consciousness) which is represented as being determined by the succession of different states in time, is not the self proper, as it exists in itself — that is, is not the transcendental subject — but only an appearance that has been given to the sensibility of this, to us unknown, being.” (Kant) or “Something unknown is doing we don’t know what.” (Eddington) Second one. So much less pretentious. 1. Twenty minutes of bagpipes or Two minutes of stomach cramps Bagpipes. I like bagpipes. 2. Judo or Karate Karate, though I don’t really care. 3. Bing Crosby or Patsy Cline Bing. Fewer Christian songs. 4. Mr. Burns or Mr. Spacely Mr. Burns 5. Mahatma Gandhi or Nelson Mandela Mandela… probably responsible for fewer deaths. 6. Rice or Pasta Pasta. 7. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise or Chili mustard and slaw Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise. Bonus Question: Which is more important — how or why? How. Why makes my head hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-iii/392481/4 "2007-02-16T15:21:15Z")
. “Klaatu barada nikto” or **“May the Force be with you”** - aaah childhood 1. **Slim Elvis** or Fat Elvis 2. A Whiter Shade of Pale or **The Dark Side of the Moon** 3. **Don’t Tread On Me** or One Nation Under God 4. **"Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!"** or “Do you have Prince Albert in a can?” 5. Hail Britannia or **Pomp and Circumstance** - Did you mean Rule Brittania? 6. \*\*Bill Clinton \*\*or Jimmy Carter 7. Oxford or **Cambridge** 8. **The Iliad** or The Odyssey 9. “A thing must have an identity before it can exist” or " **A thing must exist before it can have an identity"** 10. **Edgar Alan Poe** or Ralph Waldo Emerson 11. “Even the inner and sensible intuition of our mind (as object of consciousness) which is represented as being determined by the succession of different states in time, is not the self proper, as it exists in itself — that is, is not the transcendental subject — but only an appearance that has been given to the sensibility of this, to us unknown, being.” (Kant) or **"Something unknown is doing we don’t know what."** (Eddington) 1. **Twenty minutes of bagpipes** or Two minutes of stomach cramps - bagpipes can be good 2. **Judo** or Karate 3. Bing Crosby or **Patsy Cline** 4. **Mr. Burns** or Mr. Spacely 5. **Mahatma Gandhi** or Nelson Mandela 6. Rice or **Pasta** 7. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise or **Chili mustard and slaw** Bonus Question: Which is more important — **how** or why? Reply With Quote ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-iii/392481/5 "2007-02-16T15:34:14Z")
[QUOTE=Struan] 6. Hail Britannia or Pomp and Circumstance - Did you mean Rule Brittania? [/quote] Gah! Yes, thank you. Could a mod make that change, please? ---
**Author:** ![tbdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@tbdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tbdi)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-iii/392481/6 "2007-02-16T15:40:07Z")
1. “Klaatu barada nikto” 2. Neither Elvis; never could stand any of it 3. The Dark Side of the Moon (although I do like A Whiter Shade of Pale) 4. Don’t Tread On Me 5. “Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!” 6. Rule Britannia 7. Jimmy Carter (only by the slight edge that as much as I disagree with him I can respect that he stands up for what he believes in) 8. no preference on Oxford/Cambridge 9. The Odyssey (by a slight edge) 10. “A thing must have an identity before it can exist” 11. Edgar Alan Poe 12. Eddington 13. Twenty minutes of bagpipes 14. no preference on Judo/Karate 15. no preference on Crosby/Cline 16. Mr. Burns 17. Mahatma Gandhi 18. Rice 19. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise Bonus Question: why? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-iii/392481/7 "2007-02-16T15:42:10Z")
1. **"Klaatu barada nikto"** or “May the Force be with you” Piss on Lucas. 1. **Slim Elvis** or Fat Elvis Gotta have the hips. 1. A Whiter Shade of Pale or **The Dark Side of the Moon** I’ve worn out a dozen copies of this LP. 1. **Don’t Tread On Me** or One Nation Under God Don’t tell me what to believe. 1. **"Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!"** or “Do you have Prince Albert in a can?” I respect Albert too much to make jokes about him. 1. **Hail Britannia** or Pomp and Circumstance HB is majestic. P&C is boring. 1. **Bill Clinton** or Jimmy Carter Blowjobs beats lust in the heart every time. 1. Oxford or **Cambridge** Just because. 1. The Iliad or **The Odyssey** More scenery. 1. **"A thing must have an identity before it can exist"** or “A thing must exist before it can have an identity” Because. 1. **Edgar Alan Poe** or Ralph Waldo Emerson If only for what he did that got him thrown out of West Point. 1. “Even the inner and sensible intuition of our mind (as object of consciousness) which is represented as being determined by the succession of different states in time, is not the self proper, as it exists in itself — that is, is not the transcendental subject — but only an appearance that has been given to the sensibility of this, to us unknown, being.” (Kant) or **"Something unknown is doing we don’t know what." (Eddington)** Kant was an idiot. 1. **Twenty minutes of bagpipes** or Two minutes of stomach cramps 2 hours of bagpipes! I love the sound. 1. **Judo** or Karate Defensive is better. 1. Bing Crosby or **Patsy Cline** Der Bingle was a hack. 1. **Mr. Burns** or Mr. Spacely More evil. 1. **Mahatma Gandhi** or Nelson Mandela Not a bank robber. 1. Rice or **Pasta** Better with tomato sauce 1. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise or **Chili mustard and slaw** Spicier is better. Bonus Question: Which is more important — how or **why**? “Why?” is always the question. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-iii/392481/8 "2007-02-16T15:49:19Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] Could a mod make that change, please? [/QUOTE] Yes. ---
**Author:** ![Silence\_of\_the\_clams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Silence\_of\_the\_clams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silence_of_the_clams)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-iii/392481/9 "2007-02-16T15:52:02Z")
1. “Klaatu barada nikto” or \*\*“May the Force be with you” \*\* - nothing excel the sound of a lazergun 2. Slim Elvis or **Fat Elvis** - kitsch is fascinting 3. A Whiter Shade of Pale or \*\*The Dark Side of the Moon \*\* - I must go with the flow here 4. **Don’t Tread On Me** or One Nation Under God - politics and religion is a volatile combination 5. **"Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!"** or “Do you have Prince Albert in a can?” - my kind of soup I guess 6. **Hail Britannia** or Pomp and Circumstance - whats the difference, and isn’t it Rule Britannia? 7. **Bill Clinton** or Jimmy Carter - I prefer a sigar 8. Oxford or **Cambridge** - just because I know people from there 9. The Iliad or **The Odyssey** - the Illiad is not a boring read, but I must give Odyssevs a well earned toast for his adventures 10. **"A thing must have an identity before it can exist"** or “A thing must exist before it can have an identity” - I guess there are just as many nondescript fantasies in our imagination without their existence here and now :dubious: 11. **Edgar Alan Poe** or Ralph Waldo Emerson - or as Dart Wader so delicately put it “Join the dark side, Luke” 12. “Even the inner and sensible intuition of our mind (as object of consciousness) which is represented as being determined by the succession of different states in time, is not the self proper, as it exists in itself — that is, is not the transcendental subject — but only an appearance that has been given to the sensibility of this, to us unknown, being.” (Kant) or **"Something unknown is doing we don’t know what."** (Eddington) - keep it simple 1. **Twenty minutes of bagpipes** or Two minutes of stomach cramps - imagine bagpipes with helium 2. **Judo** or Karate - Ralph Macchio… 3. **Bing Crosby** or Patsy Cline - badabing badabom 4. **Mr. Burns** or Mr. Spacely - I don’t know the other one 5. **Mahatma Gandhi** or Nelson Mandela - more ooomph and global awareness 6. **Rice** or Pasta - I like rice better but can cook more with pasta 7. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise or **Chili mustard and slaw** - I hate mayo Bonus Question: Which is more important — **how** or why? - what’s the point of why doing it when how doing it gets you there ---
**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-iii/392481/10 "2007-02-16T16:27:49Z")
1. **"Klaatu barada nikto"** or “May the Force be with you” 2. **Slim Elvis** or Fat Elvis 3. **A Whiter Shade of Pale** or The Dark Side of the Moon 4. Don’t Tread On Me or One Nation Under God - neither, most emphatically 5. “Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!” or **"Do you have Prince Albert in a can?"** 6. Hail Britannia or **Pomp and Circumstance** 7. Bill Clinton or **Jimmy Carter** 8. Oxford or **Cambridge** 9. The Iliad or **The Odyssey** 10. “A thing must have an identity before it can exist” or **"A thing must exist before it can have an identity"** 11. **Edgar Alan Poe** or Ralph Waldo Emerson 12.“Even the inner and sensible intuition of our mind (as object of consciousness) which is represented as being determined by the succession of different states in time, is not the self proper, as it exists in itself — that is, is not the transcendental subject — but only an appearance that has been given to the sensibility of this, to us unknown, being.” (Kant) or **"Something unknown is doing we don’t know what." (Eddington)** 1. **Twenty minutes of bagpipes** or Two minutes of stomach cramps - I _like_ bagpipes, dammit. 2. Judo or Karate - neither 3. Bing Crosby or **Patsy Cline** 4. **Mr. Burns** or Mr. Spacely 5. **Mahatma Gandhi** or Nelson Mandela 6. **Rice** or Pasta 7. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise or **Chili mustard and slaw** - never had chili mustard, but I’m sure I’d like it. Bonus Question: Which is more important — how or **why?** ---
**Author:** ![Paintcharge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paintcharge/32/7946_2.png) [@Paintcharge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paintcharge)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-iii/392481/11 "2007-02-16T16:40:11Z")
1. “Klaatu barada nikto” or “ **May the Force be with you** ” 2. **Slim Elvis** or Fat Elvis 3. **A Whiter Shade of Pale** or The Dark Side of the Moon Lost my first out of family Trivial Pursuit game because of this song 4. **Don’t Tread On Me** or One Nation Under God 5. “ **Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!** ” or “Do you have Prince Albert in a can?” 6. Rule Britannia or **Pomp and Circumstance** Even though I played thousands of repetitions at graduations. 7. **Bill Clinton** or Jimmy Carter 8. **Oxford** or Cambridge Meh. But I’ve never heard of Cambridge shoes 9. **The Iliad** or The Odyssey 10. “A thing must have an identity before it can exist” or “ **A thing must exist before it can have an identity** ” 11. **Edgar Alan Poe** or Ralph Waldo Emerson 12. “Even the inner and sensible intuition of our mind (as object of consciousness) which is represented as being determined by the succession of different states in time, is not the self proper, as it exists in itself — that is, is not the transcendental subject — but only an appearance that has been given to the sensibility of this, to us unknown, being.” (Kant) or “ **Something unknown is doing we don’t know what.** ” (Eddington) 1. **Twenty minutes of bagpipes** or Two minutes of stomach cramps 14.\*\* Judo\*\* or Karate That Dunkin Donuts add made me hate the word “Karate hyyyyy-ah” 1. Bing Crosby or **Patsy Cline** 2. **Mr. Burns** or Mr. Spacely 3. \*\*Mahatma Gandhi \*\*or Nelson Mandela 4. Rice or **Pasta** 5. **Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise** or Chili mustard and slaw Bonus Question: Which is more important — **how** or why? ---
**Author:** ![Tomcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Tomcat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tomcat)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-iii/392481/12 "2007-02-16T16:45:48Z")
==================================== 1. “Klaatu barada nikto” 2. Slim Elvis 3. The Dark Side of the Moon 4. Don’t Tread On Me 5. “Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!” 6. Pomp and Circumstance 7. Bill Clinton 8. Oxford 9. The Odyssey 10. “A thing must exist before it can have an identity” 11. Ralph Waldo Emerson 12. “Something unknown is doing we don’t know what.” (Eddington) 1. Two minutes of stomach cramps 2. Judo 3. Patsy Cline 4. Mr. Burns 5. Nelson Mandela 6. Rice 7. Chili mustard and slaw Bonus Question: Which is more important — how or why? How. ---
**Author:** ![mrklutz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ebca7d/32.png) [@mrklutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrklutz)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-iii/392481/13 "2007-02-16T17:16:35Z")
1. **"Klaatu barada nikto"** or “May the Force be with you” 2. **Slim Elvis** or Fat Elvis 3. A Whiter Shade of Pale or **The Dark Side of the Moon** 4. **Don’t Tread On Me** or One Nation Under God (I’m an atheist.) 5. “Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!” or **“Do you have Prince Albert in a can?”** (I have a can of Prince Albert at home.) 6. **Rule Britannia** or Pomp and Circumstance 7. **Bill Clinton** or Jimmy Carter 8. **Oxford** or Cambridge 9. The Iliad or **The Odyssey** (The themes are weightier in the Iliad, but the Odyssey is just plain fun.) 10. “A thing must have an identity before it can exist” or **"A thing must exist before it can have an identity"** 11. **Edgar Alan Poe** or Ralph Waldo Emerson 12. “Even the inner and sensible intuition of our mind (as object of consciousness) which is represented as being determined by the succession of different states in time, is not the self proper, as it exists in itself — that is, is not the transcendental subject — but only an appearance that has been given to the sensibility of this, to us unknown, being.” (Kant) or **"Something unknown is doing we don’t know what." (Eddington)** 1. **Twenty minutes of bagpipes** or Two minutes of stomach cramps (Bagpipes rock.) 2. Judo or **Karate** 3. Bing Crosby or **Patsy Cline** 4. **Mr. Burns** or Mr. Spacely 5. **Mahatma Gandhi** or Nelson Mandela 6. Rice or **Pasta** 7. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise or **Chili mustard and slaw** Bonus Question: Which is more important — how or why? ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-iii/392481/14 "2007-02-16T17:23:21Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] This is the final poll in a three part series. Feel free to participate even if you did not participate in either of the previous two. You may elect to make as many or as few selections as you like. Expounding on your selections would be greatly appreciated, but is not required. After this poll has closed, I’ll evaluate the responses and post a new thread explaining what the poll was about and announcing the results. It’ll likely take a long time to tabulate everything, and I won’t want to do it in one sitting I’m sure. So it may be a couple weeks or more before I can finish. (Note to the posters who posted after Poll II closed: I have included your responses.) Thanks for participating. 🙂 ==================================== 1. “May the Force be with you” 2. Slim Elvis 3. The Dark Side of the Moon Like em both but Dark Side wins easily 4. Don’t Tread On Me Love the snake flag. 5. “Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!” 6. Rule Britannia 7. Jimmy Carter 8. Oxford 9. The Odyssey 10. “A thing must exist before it can have an identity” 11. Edgar Alan Poe 12. “Even the inner and sensible intuition of our mind (as object of consciousness) which is represented as being determined by the succession of different states in time, is not the self proper, as it exists in itself — that is, is not the transcendental subject — but only an appearance that has been given to the sensibility of this, to us unknown, being.” (Kant) 13. Twenty minutes of bagpipes I like bagpipes,not crazy about stomach cramps. 14. Judo 15. Patsy Cline 16. Mr. Burns 17. Mahatma Gandhi 18. Rice Man thats a tough call…hmmm I eat lots of both,if I gotta pick one I guess it’ll be Rice 19. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise Bonus Question: Which is more important — how or why? [/QUOTE] Why ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-iii/392481/15 "2007-02-16T17:36:45Z")
1. “Klaatu barada nikto” or **"May the Force be with you"** 2. **Slim Elvis** or Fat Elvis 3. A Whiter Shade of Pale or **The Dark Side of the Moon** 4. **Don’t Tread On Me** or One Nation Under God 5. **"Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!"** or “Do you have Prince Albert in a can?” 6. **Rule Britannia** or Pomp and Circumstance 7. **Bill Clinton** or Jimmy Carter 8. \*\*Oxford \*\*or Cambridge Oxford is where I am, and it is a fantastic place. 9. The Iliad or **The Odyssey** I like the story and main character much more. 10. “A thing must have an identity before it can exist” or **"A thing must exist before it can have an identity"** 11. **Edgar Alan Poe** or Ralph Waldo Emerson Inventor of the modern detective story 12. “Even the inner and sensible intuition of our mind (as object of consciousness) which is represented as being determined by the succession of different states in time, is not the self proper, as it exists in itself — that is, is not the transcendental subject — but only an appearance that has been given to the sensibility of this, to us unknown, being.” (Kant) or **"Something unknown is doing we don’t know what." (Eddington)** Kant is, as usual, incomprehensible. I like the other quotation, it expresses our fundamental ignorance about much. 1. **Twenty minutes of bagpipes** or Two minutes of stomach cramps Not an easy choice… 2. Judo or **Karate** 3. \*\*Bing Crosby \*\* or Patsy Cline 4. **Mr. Burns** or Mr. Spacely 5. Mahatma Gandhi or **Nelson Mandela** 6. Rice or **Pasta** 7. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise or **Chili mustard and slaw** Bonus Question: Which is more important — how or **why?** I investigate ‘why’. ---
**Author:** ![Monstera\_deliciosa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monstera_deliciosa/32/109_2.png) [@Monstera\_deliciosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstera_deliciosa)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-iii/392481/16 "2007-02-16T17:49:16Z")
1. **"Klaatu barada nikto"** or “May the Force be with you” 2. **Slim Elvis** or Fat Elvis 3. **A Whiter Shade of Pale** or The Dark Side of the Moon 4. **Don’t Tread On Me** or One Nation Under God 5. **"Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!**" or “Do you have Prince Albert in a can?” 6. Rule Britannia or \*\*Pomp and Circumstance \*\* 7. **Bill Clinton** or Jimmy Carter. Hard choice. Carter is the better man, Clinton the better President. 8. Oxford or **Cambridge** 9. The Iliad or **The Odyssey** 10. “A thing must have an identity before it can exist” or **"A thing must exist before it can have an identity"** 11. **Edgar Alan Poe** or Ralph Waldo Emerson 12. “Even the inner and sensible intuition of our mind (as object of consciousness) which is represented as being determined by the succession of different states in time, is not the self proper, as it exists in itself — that is, is not the transcendental subject — but only an appearance that has been given to the sensibility of this, to us unknown, being.” (Kant) or \*\* “Something unknown is doing we don’t know what.”\*\* (Eddington) 1. \*\*Twenty minutes of bagpipes \*\*or Two minutes of stomach cramps. I actually like well-played bagpipes. 14.\*\* Judo\*\* or Karate 1. Bing Crosby or **Patsy Cline** 2. **Mr. Burns** or Mr. Spacely 3. **Mahatma Gandhi** or Nelson Mandela 4. Rice or **Pasta** 5. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise or **Chili mustard and slaw \*\* Bonus Question: Which is more important —** how\*\* or why? IMO, motive matters far less often in real life than it does in murder mysteries. ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-iii/392481/17 "2007-02-16T18:29:11Z")
1. “Klaatu barada nikto” or **"May the Force be with you"** _Outside the context of the film, Kbn is meaningless._ 2. \*\*Slim Elvis \*\* or Fat Elvis 3. A Whiter Shade of Pale or **The Dark Side of the Moon** 4. \*\*Don’t Tread On Me \*\* or One Nation Under God _The Don’t Tread On Me flag is still a valid US flag, from before the “Betsy.” ONUG is mere chaff._ 5. \*\*“Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!” \*\* or “Do you have Prince Albert in a can?” 6. \*\*Rule Britannia \*\* or Pomp and Circumstance _I never had to sit through a boring ceremony while Rule Britannia played._ 7. \*\*Bill Clinton \*\* or Jimmy Carter 8. **Oxford** or Cambridge _A good solid shoe._ 9. The Iliad or The **Odyssey** 10. “A thing must have an identity before it can exist” or **"A thing must exist before it can have an identity"** 11. \*\*Edgar Alan Poe \*\* or Ralph Waldo Emerson 12. “Even …, being.” (Kant) or **"Something unknown is doing we don’t know what." (Eddington)** _Kant never learned brevity_. 13. \*\*Twenty minutes of bagpipes \*\* or Two minutes of stomach cramps 1. Judo or **Karate** 2. Bing Crosby or **Patsy Cline** 3. \*\*Mr. Burns \*\* or Mr. Spacely _Spacely was a grouch. Mr. Burns is eeevil, and he likes it_. 4. \*\*Mahatma Gandhi \*\* or Nelson Mandela 5. Rice or **Pasta** _Hard to choose._ 6. \*\*Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise \*\* or Chili mustard and slaw Bonus Question: Which is more important — how or **why**? The why often steers the how. ---
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1. “May the Force be with you” 2. Slim Elvis 3. A Whiter Shade of Pale 4. One Nation Under God 5. “Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!” 6. Pomp and Circumstance 7. Bill Clinton 8. Oxford 9. The Iliad 10. “A thing must exist before it can have an identity” 11. Edgar Alan Poe 12. Kant 13. Two minutes of stomach cramps 14. Karate 15. Patsy Cline 16. Mr. Burns 17. Mahatma Gandhi 18. Rice 19. Chili mustard and slaw Bonus Question: why ---
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==================================== 1. “Klaatu barada nikto” or **“May the Force be with you”** - You just can’t mess with the Force 🙂 in all of it’s anecdotes and uses… 2. **Slim Elvis** or Fat Elvis - because he was in his purest form. 3. A Whiter Shade of Pale or **The Dark Side of the Moon** - the song and the literal translate so perfectly into an illusion of the unkown and those things that have yet to be discovered. 4. **Don’t Tread On Me** or One Nation Under God - I’m a pragmatist. 5. **"Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!"** or “Do you have Prince Albert in a can?” - the latter is just plain wrong. 6. Rule Britannia or **Pomp and Circumstance** - I like Othello. 7. **Bill Clinton** or Jimmy Carter - don’t hang me. 8. **Oxford** or Cambridge - Repetitio est mater studiorum 9. The Iliad or **The Odyssey** - I like goats. 10. “A thing must have an identity before it can exist” or **“A thing must exist before it can have an identity”** - conjecture. 11. Edgar Alan Poe or **Ralph Waldo Emerson** - I don’t like the dark. 12. “Even the inner and sensible intuition of our mind (as object of consciousness) which is represented as being determined by the succession of different states in time, is not the self proper, as it exists in itself — that is, is not the transcendental subject — but only an appearance that has been given to the sensibility of this, to us unknown, being.” (Kant) or **"Something unknown is doing we don’t know what." (Eddington)** - my love. 1. **Twenty minutes of bagpipes** or Two minutes of stomach cramps - I’m a gaelic viking. 2. Judo or **Karate** - I like Pat Morita 3. Bing Crosby or **Patsy Cline** - dunno, gut feeling. 4. **Mr. Burns** or Mr. Spacely - never liked jetsons. 5. **Mahatma Gandhi** or Nelson Mandela - by long shot. 6. Rice or **Pasta** -again go with gut…🙂 7. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise or **Chili mustard and slaw** - I’ll have the slaw on the side. Bonus Question: Which is more important — how or **why**? - always the why. ---
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1. “Klaatu barada nikto” or “May the Force be with you” Klaata barada nikto. 2. Slim Elvis or Fat Elvis. Slim Elvis 3. A Whiter Shade of Pale or The Dark Side of the Moon. Dark Side of the Moon. But on;y because Syd Barrett used to be in the band. 4. Don’t Tread On Me or One Nation Under God. Don’t tread on me 5. “Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!” or "Do you have Prince Albert in a can?"PA’s can. 6. Rule Britannia or Pomp and Circumstance. Definitly Rule Britannia. 7. Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter. Cliton was the better politician but Carter was the better man. 8. Oxford or Cambridge. Oxford. Oxford! I’d row for Oxford. 9. The Iliad or The Odyssey. The Odyssey 10. “A thing must have an identity before it can exist” or “A thing must exist before it can have an identity” I’m an existentialist. Existentence is what it’s all about. Even art that is concieved before it exists dosen’t have and identity till it exists. 11. Edgar Alan Poe or Ralph Waldo Emerson. Emerson 12. “Even the inner and sensible intuition of our mind (as object of consciousness) which is represented as being determined by the succession of different states in time, is not the self proper, as it exists in itself — that is, is not the transcendental subject — but only an appearance that has been given to the sensibility of this, to us unknown, being.” (Kant) or “Something unknown is doing we don’t know what.” (Eddington) Eddington. 1. Twenty minutes of bagpipes or Two minutes of stomach cramps. I have cramps at the moment. I’ll take the bagpipers. 2. Judo or Karate. Judo 3. Bing Crosby or Patsy Cline. Patsy Cline by a mile walked afer midnight. 4. Mr. Burns or Mr. Spacely. Mr Burnes. 5. Mahatma Gandhi or Nelson Mandela. Gandhi 6. Rice or Pasta. Errr…rice 7. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise or Chili mustard and slaw. Mustard and slaw. Bonus Question: Which is more important — how or why? [/QUOTE] Depends. How we might know. Why probably not. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-iii/392481.md?page=2)