# Poll: Is Justin Bieber a Baby Daddy? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 4, 2011, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889 "2011-11-04T19:40:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889/21 "2011-11-05T02:28:55Z")
I don’t think it’s a money grab, and I don’t think it’s true. I think she’s a nut with a Bieber obsession, and has either convinced herself he _is_ the father, or sees this as an opportunity to meet him. But, I’ve been wrong before. ---
**Author:** ![dangermom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@dangermom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dangermom)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889/22 "2011-11-05T02:36:40Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > I think she’s a nut with a Bieber obsession, and has either convinced herself he _is_ the father, or sees this as an opportunity to meet him. > > But, I’ve been wrong before. This is also a distinct possibility, and I think more likely than him actually being the baby-daddy. Come to think of it, the first thing I thought of when I heard about this was a local woman with mental issues, who sincerely believes that she wrote all of Bryan Adams’ songs for him. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889/23 "2011-11-05T02:54:28Z")
From what I see, he’s not stupid. And the account seems very out of character. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889/24 "2011-11-05T03:03:37Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > From what I see, he’s not stupid. Neither is Arnold Schwarzenegger, but he managed to knock up his house keeper while he was both married and didn’t have the excuse of being sixteen. Smarts seem to go out the window even for adults when sex comes into the picture. Even more so for teenagers. ---
**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889/25 "2011-11-05T03:14:58Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > I don’t find the woman’s story to be believable, so I voted no. Yes. She claims to have “credible evidence” which she’s keeping quiet about until it’s in court. (December 15 - mark your calendars! :D) ---
**Author:** ![lavenderviolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@lavenderviolet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lavenderviolet)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889/26 "2011-11-05T03:29:01Z")
> [@dangermom](#): > > This is also a distinct possibility, and I think more likely than him actually being the baby-daddy. > > Come to think of it, the first thing I thought of when I heard about this was a local woman with mental issues, who sincerely believes that she wrote all of Bryan Adams’ songs for him. Yup. This seems the most likely scenario to me. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889/27 "2011-11-05T03:32:49Z")
Baby, baby, baby no! Sorry. Well, actually, no, I’m not. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889/28 "2011-11-05T03:37:54Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > I don’t think it’s a money grab, and I don’t think it’s true. I think she’s a nut with a Bieber obsession, and has either convinced herself he _is_ the father, or sees this as an opportunity to meet him. I know almost nothing about Justin Bieber, but this seems the most likely explanation to me. In addition to attracting over-enthusiastic fans, celebrities sometimes become the focus of people with serious mental health problems like paranoid schizophrenia. The most well-known may be David Letterman’s stalker [Margaret Mary Ray](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Mary_Ray), who sometimes claimed that she was Letterman’s wife and that her son was his child. In the world of music, I know Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam had a mentally ill stalker who repeatedly broke into his house, crashed her car into his security gate, and also claimed he was the father of her child. So this whole “celebrity fathered my child” thing seems to be a relatively common delusion. I’m sure many male celebrities have actually fathered children by fans or groupies, but it seems unusual for the story to come out in this way. One of the few things I _do_ know about Justin Bieber is that he has a wholesome image, so if he or his team thought this woman was a credible threat to that image they probably would have paid her to quietly go away rather than allow this to become an international news story. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889/29 "2011-11-05T04:18:31Z")
I think this woman is delusional. I think it never happened, but she believes it did. Does anyone remember the play/movie [Come Back to the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_Back_to_the_Five_and_Dime,_Jimmy_Dean,_Jimmy_Dean_%28play%29)? This woman reminds me of the character Mona, who told everyone she got pregnant by James Dean when he was in town to film “Giant”. Of course it was a local boy who got her pregnant, but Mona truly believed it was James Dean. This situation sounds a lot like what happened in that play. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889/30 "2011-11-05T05:13:01Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Smarts seem to go out the window even for adults when sex comes into the picture. Even more so for teenagers. Yeah, I was going to say this, more or less. In my 30’s I was involved with a man who was/is HIV+ and while we both knew what to do and not do, there where a few times I didn’t have safe sex. Sometimes the moment gets away from you. Anyway I voted No, not that I care. ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889/31 "2011-11-05T05:17:42Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > The most well-known may be David Letterman’s stalker Margaret Mary Ray, who sometimes claimed that she was Letterman’s wife and that her son was his child. I was thinking more along the lines of John Lennon and his murder. That one might have stuck with people better, just a hunch. On Topic: No I don’t think Bieber is the father, it’s just a money/attention grab by a desperate, possibly mentally ill woman. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889/32 "2011-11-05T05:23:29Z")
I keep thinking when I hear about this story, “Welcome to one of the down sides of fame, kid.” ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889/33 "2011-11-05T06:54:37Z")
Frankly, I have a hard time thinking of Justin Bieber as a sexual being. I’m also wondering when and why the term “baby daddy” replaced “father” in American discourse. ---
**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889/34 "2011-11-05T07:22:00Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Frankly, I have a hard time thinking of Justin Bieber as a sexual being. I can, but I’m just disappointed he used that “This is my first time” line on me too and I totally fell for it. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889/35 "2011-11-05T07:47:20Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I’m also wondering when and why the term “baby daddy” replaced “father” in American discourse. A father takes responsibility in raising the child. A baby daddy (or occasionally mommy) is just a cell donor who doesn’t stick around and gives no support to the child or the raising parent. The name riffs off the Jerry Springer/Maury Povich “you ARE the father!” type of people and the way they speak. It’s an insult that has apparently become so standard that it’s no longer insulting. Anyhow, I don’t care if he is or not, because if he isn’t she’s just another grifter and if he is he’s got the coin to cover it, even if he’s unwilling to offer up the time. In this day and age there is zero stigma to single-parent households, so if he pays and leaves it’s no big deal except in the tabloids. ---
**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889/36 "2011-11-05T08:36:12Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > … if he is he’s got the coin to cover it… Truth. He made $56 million last year (net, I believe) and can’t spend it fast enough. He could dump a million on her to go away and not even notice. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889/37 "2011-11-05T14:18:01Z")
> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#): > > I was thinking more along the lines of John Lennon and his murder. That one might have stuck with people better, just a hunch. As far as mentally ill people fixated on celebrities then yes, but I was thinking more specifically of people who have a delusional belief that they’ve been romantically/sexually involved with a celebrity. Mark David Chapman did not, to my knowledge, have those kinds of feelings for John Lennon. John Hinckley, Jr. may be the most famous case of a psycho romantically/sexually obsessed with a celebrity, but he didn’t believe he and Jody Foster had ever been involved. His attempt to assassinate Regan was meant to get Foster’s attention, and came after Hinckley had repeatedly tried and failed through more conventional methods. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889/38 "2011-11-05T16:13:01Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Frankly, I have a hard time thinking of Justin Bieber as a sexual being. > > I’m also wondering when and why the term “baby daddy” replaced “father” in American discourse. A “baby daddy” or “baby mama” is someone who is the daddy/mama of your baby, but has no other relationship to you. This person is not your ex, not your fiance, not your boyfriend, not someone you’re pining after, not someone who you wish you were more involved with. They happen to be related to your child, and that’s it. The term is used unironically among some lower status social groups, and ironically in others. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889/39 "2011-11-05T16:15:51Z")
Yes because of what happened to Boris Becker in a cupboard. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889/40 "2011-11-05T16:38:44Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > A “baby daddy” or “baby mama” is someone who is the daddy/mama of your baby, but has no other relationship to you. This person is not your ex, not your fiance, not your boyfriend, not someone you’re pining after, not someone who you wish you were more involved with. They happen to be related to your child, and that’s it. I don’t think this is quite right. I believe a “baby daddy/mama” is simply a person you are not currently romantically involved with but who is the other parent of your child. They are not a current boy/girlfriend or spouse, but could be your ex, someone you’re pining after, or someone you wish you were more involved with. Although I don’t care for the term, I can see how there’s a useful distinction between “baby daddy/mama” and “ex-boy/girlfriend”. There’s no particular reason you would need to remain in contact with an ex, especially if you’re not on friendly terms anymore. But if your ex is also the parent of your child, some regular communication is probably necessary. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-justin-bieber-a-baby-daddy/601889.md?page=3)