# Poll: Is your sate trying to amend its constitution to ban same sex marriage

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 29, 2004, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942 "2004-10-29T23:47:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942/1 "2004-10-29T23:47:18Z")

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DISCLAIMER: This is just a poll about the coming election. NO debating or flaming or arguing please!

Here in Georgia, we will have the option to vote on [Amendment 1](http://www.southernvoice.com/2004/10-8/news/localnews/supreme.cfm). It asks whether or not there should be an amendment to the state’s constitution that defines marriage as that relationship between a man and a woman.

Is your state doing the same thing?

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**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942/2 "2004-10-29T23:49:40Z")

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Yes Kentucky is, plus additional banning of civil unions and possibly lots of other stuff.

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**Author:** ![Lsura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Lsura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lsura)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942/3 "2004-10-29T23:59:53Z")

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Yes. Here in Ohio, we’re voting on [State Issue 1](http://www.lwvcincinnati.org/voting/issue12004.html). It says:

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> Only a union between one man and one woman may be a marriage valid in or recognized by this state and its political subdivisions. This state and its political subdivisions shall not create or recognize a legal status for relationships of unmarried individuals that intends to approximate the design, qualities, significance or effect of marriage.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942/4 "2004-10-30T00:14:09Z")

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No. In Washington State, we’ve got initiatives about the structure of our primary system, a tax increase for education, a rule change to expand slot machines, another attempt to start up charter schools, and a demand to get Hanford cleaned up once and for goddamn all. Pretty standard stuff.

The way our courts have been angling, we will probably be getting a decision to legalize gay marriage within the next two years, at which point the conservative campaign will come to town. But until then we’ve got other fish to fry.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942/5 "2004-10-30T00:14:18Z")

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It was [measure 36](http://www.sos.state.or.us/elections/nov22004/guide/meas/m36_bt.html%5BURL=http://www.sos.state.or.us/elections/nov22004/guide/meas/m36_bt.html) on the Oregon ballot and, out of the eleven states proposing a constitutional amendment, we’re one of two (Michigan is the other) that is thought to have a reasonable chance of defeating it.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942/6 "2004-10-30T00:26:42Z")

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I’m ashamed to say that Nevada did two years ago.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942/7 "2004-10-30T00:35:01Z")

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Ohio is. I’m voting NO!

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942/8 "2004-10-30T01:01:41Z")

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No, that’s already been done and it’s already being fought in the courts AFAIK. Some folks from HRC came to my school’s pride meeting this past Monday and talked some about that.

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**Author:** ![tsarina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f4b2a3/32.png) [@tsarina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tsarina)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942/9 "2004-10-30T01:16:45Z")

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Yup, Michigan has Proposal 2 on the ballot to define marriage as being between a man and a woman and all that crap…

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942/10 "2004-10-30T01:29:29Z")

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It’s on the ballot in ND, though I don’t even know what the measure is.

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**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942/11 "2004-10-30T02:13:58Z")

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Hawaii already did quite some time ago I’m afriad to say.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942/12 "2004-10-30T03:29:14Z")

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Nope. For once I’m proud of us - we’re voting on getting rid of minibottles instead. 😉

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942/13 "2004-10-30T03:31:42Z")

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The following states have anti-marriage initiatives on their ballots next week: Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon and Utah. All are expected to pass easily.

Louisiana passed one earlier this year. It has been struck down by a state judge but the state is appealing the decision. Missouri also passed a ban this year.

This [site](http://www.lambdalegal.org/cgi-bin/iowa/documents/record?record=1427) lists states with anti-marriage laws and amendments but is out-of-date.

In my state, Wisconsin, there is no specific law barring SSM but references in the statutes to “man and woman” and “husband and wife” have been construed to mean that SSM is illegal. Our legislature passed an anti-marriage law but our governor vetoed it. There was an attempt to pass an amendment, which failed.

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**Author:** ![JamesCarroll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@JamesCarroll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JamesCarroll)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942/14 "2004-10-30T04:16:29Z")

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Nope

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942/15 "2004-10-30T05:00:14Z")

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> [@Fern Forest](#):
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> Hawaii already did quite some time ago I’m afriad to say.

It did? I thought it just passed a law, not amended the constitution.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942/16 "2004-10-30T05:55:22Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> The following states have anti-marriage initiatives on their ballots next week: Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon and Utah. All are expected to pass easily.

I was under the impression that Oregon, at least, is not expected to pass its initiative.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942/17 "2004-10-30T06:06:12Z")

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As I said above, it isn’t.

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942/18 "2004-10-30T08:51:17Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> It’s on the ballot in ND, though I don’t even know what the measure is.

In case anyone’s curious, I ran across this.

> **[Home - CQ Roll Call](https://cqrollcall.com/)**
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**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942/19 "2004-10-30T13:40:05Z")

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It got struck down for technicalities of some sort, but yes. I’m sorry. I think the whole idea is disgusting. Unfortunately, I’m apparently in a small minority here. ☹

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-is-your-sate-trying-to-amend-its-constitution-to-ban-same-sex-marriage/271942/20 "2004-10-30T15:41:59Z")

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Ohio here.

The most disgusting thing is the Conservative Republicans who are opposed to the bill for all the wrong reasons. They don’t give a damn about our rights or equality or fairness. All they care about is the tax revenue we generate. With friends like these . . .

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