# Poll/Pool: When will Trump get out of the race?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 10, 2015, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496 "2015-08-10T22:54:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496/61 "2015-09-18T20:40:49Z")

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> [@Mr\_Quatro](#):
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> I noticed Mr Christie on NBC this morning saying the GOP is not necessarily  
> being brought down by Mr Trumps actions …  
> spells thinking of being his running mate to me.

Christie did also [take him to task](http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/18/politics/donald-trump-muslim-barack-obama-2016-candidates-chris-christie/) with regard to the person at the town hall meeting that pulled out the Obama is a Muslim foreigner. He called his shot instead of engaging in hyperbolic “ruining the party” shots.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496/62 "2015-09-18T21:01:58Z")

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> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> I don’t think he will stay in after his loss becomes obvious and inevitable to him.

Why would that happen? Trump perfectly represents the viewpoint of the Teeming Millions of GOP voters (embarrassing as it is to the GOP leadership to have that viewpoint communicated via bullhorn instead of their preferred dog-whistle), so there’s no reason he should fall behind, or at least not so badly as to make defeat “obvious and inevitable”. To be sure, the wheels will start falling off the wagon during the general election campaign, as it becomes evident that the Teeming Millions who _can_ pour piss out of a boot with illustrated directions on the heel outnumber the ones who can’t, but by then there’ll be no way out without eating an even bigger helping of crow.

Put me down for “Nov. 8, 2016 (Election Day) Trump loses”.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496/63 "2015-09-18T21:05:14Z")

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Christie knows he has no chance as getting the nom, he is running for the VP slot.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496/64 "2015-09-18T21:09:36Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> If he gives the Brewster’s Millions (Richard Pryor version) speech on the eve of the election, will there even be TIME to print new ballots by the following morning (let alone come up with a replacement candidate)?

Why would you need new ballots? The people you’re actually voting for (a slate of electors) aren’t listed on the ballot anyway. As a practical matter, it would come down the the party announcing a new candidate to whom its electors were pledged. The Master addressed a somewhat similar situation [here](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/122/what-if-the-u-s-president-and-vice-president-elect-die-before-being-sworn-in).

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496/65 "2015-09-18T21:13:18Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> The problem is he won’t keep his lead. Once the establishment-but-loser candidates start dropping out they’ll no longer be splitting the non-Trump votes. Once they’re down to three or four candidates he’ll be well behind.

He’s polling around 30%, if all but 3 candidates drop out how does the math work that would put him “well behind”?

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496/66 "2015-09-18T21:15:54Z")

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For reference: [abc news on polls showing depth of Trump supporters](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/poll-numbers-show-donald-trump-real/story?id=33776703)

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496/67 "2016-07-05T22:01:47Z")

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I’m reviving this thread because I think (and hope) that there’s a chance that Trump could implode in the coming weeks, either before, during, or after the Republican convention in Cleveland.

With all the damaging news that’s been coming out about him in the last few weeks, I have to wonder if he really has the guts to continue to an almost certain loss in the general election, which would brand him forever as one of the world’s biggest losers. IMHO, for him, this would be a fate worse than death, and I suspect he is going to look for an exit that will allow him to claim that his failure was someone else’s fault.

The basic rules of the poll still stand, and there are about three dozen of you who have already voted for dates in the future and could still win. Newcomers have a big advantage over those of us who voted nine months ago, but that’s life.

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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496/68 "2016-07-06T01:03:15Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> which would brand him forever as one of the world’s biggest losers. IMHO, for him, this would be a fate worse than death,

I now think the worst thing in his mind would be if he won the Presidency. I don’t believe he ever wanted to win the primaries and never expected to. He wanted to put on a show, run his big mouth, maybe, just maybe win a state or 2, then get to have the spotlight while he makes a speech at the convention.

Then when a real Republican won against a weak, untrustworthy Hillary he could brag the rest of his life that he help make sure she didn’t become POTUS. And he could bitch about not getting a cabinet position or go on and on the next 4-8 years how he would’ve been a better leader than President Cruz or Rubio.

The stupid shit that comes out of his cake hole. Nobody that wants to win does that. He’s like a dog that chases cars. If the dog actually catches one he doesn’t know what to do with it. So he just pisses all over it.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496/69 "2016-07-06T01:10:04Z")

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Looks like I’m the only one who picked other, so I’ll specify here: Trump runs through election day and Clinton wins… but that doesn’t get Trump out of the race. He files at least one post-election lawsuit, with or without merit (my money’s on “without”), contesting the election results and claiming victory.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496/70 "2016-07-06T11:04:51Z")

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I voted (just now!) for “Nov. 8, 2016 (Election Day) Trump loses.”

> [@Enginerd](#):
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> Looks like I’m the only one who picked other, so I’ll specify here: Trump runs through election day and Clinton wins… but that doesn’t get Trump out of the race. He files at least one post-election lawsuit, with or without merit (my money’s on “without”), contesting the election results and claiming victory.

This is all a publicity stunt that got out of hand. Trump will be relieved when he can put it all behind him and get on with milking his (now enhanced! :rolleyes: ) brand for hundreds of millions of $$$.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496/71 "2016-07-06T12:04:37Z")

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What idiots a lot of us were for this poll. I had picked Super Tuesday. Now I think he never concedes. He’ll lose to Hillary, but he won’t call her to concede, he’ll continue to insist that he’s the real winner and never publicly accepts defeat. Then he goes back to making money for himself.

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**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496/72 "2016-07-06T18:11:10Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> What idiots a lot of us were for this poll. I had picked Super Tuesday. Now I think he never concedes. He’ll lose to Hillary, but he won’t call her to concede, he’ll continue to insist that he’s the real winner and never publicly accepts defeat.

I like probably others just voted ‘when he loses the general’ but that’s a lot easier to say he’d make it that far now than it was in the summer of 2015.

But come to think of it, Trump though will be out of the race assuming he stays in and loses the general election, I agree he’ll go to his grave saying he actually won. And I think that’s also a reason it’s very unlikely he quits before that. Then he’s a quitter. Whereas if he sticks to it and loses he can say the outcome was unfair (very, very unfair!) in a ‘rigged system’ and he’s not actually a loser.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496/73 "2016-07-06T18:16:47Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> This is all a publicity stunt that got out of hand. Trump will be relieved when he can put it all behind him and get on with milking his (now enhanced! :rolleyes: ) brand for hundreds of millions of $$$.

Sure, but that doesn’t mean his ego can handle the loss. Once the votes are all cast and the winner is decided, though, he can shake his tiny fist and scream at the top of his lungs about how the election was stolen from him without running the risk of actually becoming president. Do you really think he’s more likely to simply return to his business as a gracious loser at that point?

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496/74 "2016-07-06T19:01:08Z")

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I feel fairly satisfied with my prediction that Trump would rather drop out of the race than make any real financial disclosures. I’m surprised that no one has put their foot down to make him comply, but the GOP has shown itself to be remarkably weak and unprincipled the whole way along.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496/75 "2016-07-06T19:11:39Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> This is all a publicity stunt that got out of hand. Trump will be relieved when he can put it all behind him and get on with milking his (now enhanced! :rolleyes: ) brand for hundreds of millions of $$$.

I agree with your first sentence, but I assume from the :rolleyes: that you know that this campaign has [seriously hurt his brand](http://www.insidesources.com/trumps-brand-at-risk-in-trumps-campaign/). From that article:

> [@](#):
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> Trump has “taken a brand that used to be regarded as kind of opulent, with lots of golden stairways, and he’s entered the sort of rust belt of politics,” says Gregory Payne, chair of communications studies at Emerson College in Boston. “It has cheapened the brand. It’s almost like BMW going into candy bars, or some distinct brand going into something it knows little about, and that devalues the brand.”
> 
> …
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> Forbes Magazine insists [Trump] has overestimated his wealth by 100 percent. Forbes places it at $4.5 billion. At Bloomberg News, with a team devoted to analyzing the daily wealth of the world’s richest, they’ve pegged Trump’s at $2.9 billion.
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> Forbes explains the biggest discrepancy as a question of the value of the Trump brand stamped on everything from country clubs and luxury condominiums to television shows, wine and vodka. Trump has estimated his name’s value at $3 billion or more — the biggest piece of his personal portfolio. Forbes has surveyed nearly two-dozen branding experts. The highest estimate offered was $1.1 billion, the lowest $200 million. Trump has termed these numbers “ridiculous — way off.”

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496/76 "2016-08-10T18:07:40Z")

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It’ll be the day he loses, when approximately 80% of the headlines will read “_ **YOU’RE FIRED!** _”

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496/77 "2016-08-10T23:25:55Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> I’m reviving this thread because I think (and hope) that there’s a chance that Trump could implode in the coming weeks, either before, during, or after the Republican convention in Cleveland.
> 
> With all the damaging news that’s been coming out about him in the last few weeks, I have to wonder if he really has the guts to continue to an almost certain loss in the general election, which would brand him forever as one of the world’s biggest losers. IMHO, for him, this would be a fate worse than death, and I suspect he is going to look for an exit that will allow him to claim that his failure was someone else’s fault.
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> The basic rules of the poll still stand, and there are about three dozen of you who have already voted for dates in the future and could still win. Newcomers have a big advantage over those of us who voted nine months ago, but that’s life.

Back last August, I was predicting a Rubio-Kasich ticket for the GOP. I thought at that time that Bush just wasn’t doing a good job of running. I would have said after New Hampshire.

Since, at this writing, Trump is the GOP nominee, I think it’s possible he’ll lose by a solid margin and claim fraud and cheating on the part of the Democrats. So some date after losing on November 8. Probably well before midnight EST.

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496/78 "2016-08-11T17:18:16Z")

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I suspect that, beneath layer after layer of narcissism and self-deception, Trump is feeling the effects of age and indulgence. On some level, he’s become aware that there will one day–perhaps pretty soon–be a world without him in it. That’s unacceptable to his ego, so he’s trying to leave the biggest mark (or, IMHO, stain) that he can. He wants to win, so he can get his name slapped on stuff that will be around for a long time. Failing that, he’ll try to make the biggest crater he can when he falls–splitting the Republican Party, further damaging trust in our public institutions, anything he could possibly be remembered for.

I fully expect him to continue screaming nonsense even after he’s lost.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496/79 "2016-08-11T20:55:23Z")

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I believe Trump will officially take himself out of the race after the election, when he loses. He’ll make some noise for a few days about rigged elections, might even threaten lawsuits or investigations, but after a week or two, he’ll back off “for the good of the country” and make the most self-serving concession speech ever

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-pool-when-will-trump-get-out-of-the-race/727496/80 "2016-08-11T21:04:01Z")

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I voted for “other”. His presidential aspirations will end only when/if he’s arrested, committed, or dies.

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