# Poll: What constitutes being a member of the Mile-High Club? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 22, 2002, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373 "2002-10-22T13:45:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373/21 "2002-10-23T14:31:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dantheman \* > \*\*How so? Homosexuals can have intercourse, too. Merriam-Webster says so. \*\* Not under the first definition of “sexual intercourse” in the Collegiate Dictionary. Under the second definition yes, but that definition would also include oral sex so is obviously not the one intended by the OP. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373/22 "2002-10-23T14:53:17Z")
I’m on the side of including oral as well – as long as it is taken to its full conclusion, i.e. to orgasm by at least one of the parties. It’s not THAT easy, in the kind of tight-pitched packed-full flights I tend to take. Heck, it’s not that easy to get here on the ground! 😃 (OTOH, the SJU-CLE Saturday midday flight would be very propitious for covert activity, as it has a low load factor) Heck, I’d even extend to _mutual_ manual (with or without devices) stimulation-to-orgasm. Otherwise it would be discriminatory to lesbian passengers and the airlines are not in any shape to ignore market degments 😛 ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373/23 "2002-10-23T14:56:33Z")
From Merriam-Webster Online: > [@](#): > > Main Entry: in·ter·course > Pronunciation: 'in-t&r-"kOrs, -"kors > Function: noun > Etymology: Middle English intercurse, probably from Middle French entrecours, from Medieval Latin intercursus, from Latin, act of running between, from intercurrere to run between, from inter- + currere to run – more at CAR > Date: 15th century > 1 : connection or dealings between persons or groups > 2 : exchange especially of thoughts or feelings : COMMUNION > 3 : physical sexual contact between individuals that involves the genitalia of at least one person \ \; especially : SEXUAL INTERCOURSE 1 \ It covers all three. Just because oral has been discounted doesn’t mean anal is. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373/24 "2002-10-23T18:43:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lamia \* > \*\*I object to insistence upon intercourse as a prerequisite for membership into this club, as it is discriminatory to homosexuals. \*\* If you’re trying to be funny, ha ha. If not, then Jesus Christ, your objection is a little, well, unnecessary. ---
**Author:** ![Kiki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kiki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiki)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373/25 "2002-10-23T20:52:09Z")
I’m not a member yet… but I will be February 5, 2003. That’s the day my husband and I are flying to Las Vegas. My first plane ride ever… gotta make it memorable. As for the OP… I think you should actually have intercourse in order to become a member. After all, how hard is it to give a guy a blow job in a small cramped bathroom? Ummmm, _not very_! ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2002, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373/26 "2002-10-24T00:15:37Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by ladyfoxfyre \* \*\* If you’re trying to be funny, ha ha. [QUOTE] \*\* Smile when you say that! > [@](#): > > \*\* > If not, then Jesus Christ, your objection is a little, well, unnecessary. \*\* I had hoped it would be obvious that any objection to the membership requirements of a fictional club would be so clearly unecessary that they would immediately be understood to be intended humorously, but I guess I was wrong. The small shred of seriousness behind the humor would be that it is rather insulting to several groups and many individuals to insist that the only “real” sex is sex that involves a penis going into a vagina. Which reminds me, **dantheman** , your revised defintion still excludes most lesbian sexual activities (and _all_ lesbian sexual activities not involving special props). Why must lesbians be barred from membership in this elite club? As soon as I finish painting my picket signs I’m going to march right down to the offices of the Mile High Club and show them what’s what. Damn The Man! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2002, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373/27 "2002-10-24T01:38:52Z")
People have sex in Albuquerque? _EWWWWW!_ ---
**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2002, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373/28 "2002-10-24T01:39:17Z")
Who would of thought, but: > **[Home - Mile High Club](https://milehighclub.com/)** > > The official site of the Mile High Club, that exclusive club that pilots, flight attendants and daring airline passengers have been whispering about since early flight. The term “Mile High Club” refers to two people engaging in sexual activity... I had always understood that one of you (at least) had to be piloting the aircraft. However, the web site says you can just be passengers in the lavatory. But I’m one of the lucky ones! I hold a pilot’s license, and plan to add this little tidbit to my list of deeds done soon. Envy me, all of you! ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2002, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373/29 "2002-10-24T01:55:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lamia \* > \*\* > > Which reminds me, **dantheman** , your revised defintion still excludes most lesbian sexual activities (and _all_ lesbian sexual activities not involving special props). \*\* Don’t think so - can’t lesbians use fingers? The definition only says that the genitalia of **at lesat one person** must be used. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2002, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373/30 "2002-10-24T02:15:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dantheman \* > \*\* > Don’t think so - can’t lesbians use fingers? The definition only says that the genitalia of **at lesat one person** must be used. 🙂 \*\* Ah, but the anus is not a part of the genitalia, so the inclusion of anal sex still does the ladies no good. However, if by the above you mean to say that you’re willing to include a round of good old-fashioned box buffing then our respective parties may be able to reach a compromise. But I still think sex is sex is sex is sex, and anyone who insists upon saying that a particular sex act “doesn’t count” is just being silly. Sillier than me, even! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mudshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mudshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mudshark)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2002, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373/31 "2002-10-24T02:34:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sublight \* > \*\*Is it cheating if you hire a private plane solely for the purpose? > > \*\* No, it is not cheating. I’m not a member yet, but I will be one, eventually. ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2002, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373/32 "2002-10-24T12:16:59Z")
I’ll tell you what. This needs to be settled conclusively. I’m willing to fly with someone, somewhere. We can try all of the possibilities. In fact, we can even poll the flight crew otherwise. If they hold up signs of 5 or better, then it was an acceptable action; if not, back to the screwing board. Who’s game? ---
**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2002, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373/33 "2002-10-24T12:29:37Z")
"Just out of interest, how easy is it to actually do the deed? " It depends. We were both pretty well looped on rum at the time, so the whole event took on a sort of weird acrobatic, fumbling, tone: "Wait, I think I"ve almost got… “No, no, wait, that’s not right…” “Ow! Your elbows in my ribs…” “Yeah, yeah, right ther…no, no, wait a minute…here let me sit down…” KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK “Oh fuck, what do we do now…oh yeah, RIGHT THERE!” KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK “Just a minute…” ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2002, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373/34 "2002-10-24T12:32:29Z")
In order to fullfill my responsibilities, I will volunteer. As I thought I had been a member for the last 27 years, and I find now that I have been sadly mistaken (vote is 9-5 for intercourse) - I must rectify the situation. So, **dantheman** , how _ **you** _ doin’? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2002, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373/35 "2002-10-24T12:36:33Z")
[Checking out flights to Houston, and not to see **Ringo** …] ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2002, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373/36 "2002-10-24T17:48:06Z")
While I’m not a member of the club under either definition, I’d have to vote for oral sex not qualifying. If it’s really important that such a ‘club’ not discriminate against gays, we say anal sex counts, as does penetration with strap-ons. [This thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58398&highlight=lesbian+orgy) suggests the latter seems to have a following among at least some of the SDMB’s lesbians. There. Are we being “inclusive” enough today? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2002, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373/37 "2002-10-24T18:23:13Z")
I’ve had both oral and penetrative sex on a train. Is there a club for that? ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2002, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373/38 "2002-10-24T19:47:38Z")
Extra points if you’re on a United flight? ---
**Author:** ![Oblong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c0e974/32.png) [@Oblong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oblong)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2002, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373/39 "2002-10-24T20:09:05Z")
How do you do this without people knowing? Do you get funny looks when they see two people coming out of the bathroom with flushed looks on their faces? I’m jealous. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2002, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373/40 "2002-10-24T20:17:43Z")
“coming out of the bathroom with flushed looks” What other kind comes from there? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-what-constitutes-being-a-member-of-the-mile-high-club/133373.md?page=3)