# POLL: Yea, Nay, or Something else- Trump will bulldoze the entire White House to the ground

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-yea-nay-or-something-else-trump-will-bulldoze-the-entire-white-house-to-the-ground/1031590>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [July 11, 2026, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-yea-nay-or-something-else-trump-will-bulldoze-the-entire-white-house-to-the-ground/1031590 "2026-07-11T15:04:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2026, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-yea-nay-or-something-else-trump-will-bulldoze-the-entire-white-house-to-the-ground/1031590/81 "2026-07-18T16:12:41Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I wouldn’t mind seeing California, Oregon, Washington (at least the parts west of the mountain ranges), and Hawaii secede and form their own country. By the rules, of course; not through armed conflict. Hell, the Red states would probably cheer and yell, ‘Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out!’

I could go for that. I’ve been thinking about a COW coalition and forgot about Hawaii. A CHOW coalition, then.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2026, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-yea-nay-or-something-else-trump-will-bulldoze-the-entire-white-house-to-the-ground/1031590/82 "2026-07-18T16:30:58Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I wouldn’t mind seeing California, Oregon, Washington (at least the parts west of the mountain ranges), and Hawaii secede and form their own country.

That would be preferable, at this point. Both from the viewpoint of being free of the parasitic & evil Red States, and from the practical standpoint it would be economically workable. A large population, diverse resources, a developed economy and especially plenty of coastal access help make for a viable potential nation.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2026, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-yea-nay-or-something-else-trump-will-bulldoze-the-entire-white-house-to-the-ground/1031590/83 "2026-07-18T16:37:05Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#):
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> I could go for that. I’ve been thinking about a COW coalition and forgot about Hawaii. A CHOW coalition, then.

Unless Hawaii wanted to be independent. Economically, they’d be better off in CHOW; but they do have a case that they were illegally annexed.

> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> A large population, diverse resources, a developed economy and especially plenty of coastal access help make for a viable potential nation.

There are a _lot_ of military bases on the Left Coast and Hawaii. Would we lease them to the Red States of America? Kick the Reds out, like the Philippines did to the U.S.? Would all National Guard equipment pass to the Pacific states?

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-yea-nay-or-something-else-trump-will-bulldoze-the-entire-white-house-to-the-ground/1031590/84 "2026-07-20T17:19:22Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Would we lease them to the Red States of America? Kick the Reds out, like the Philippines did to the U.S.? Would all National Guard equipment pass to the Pacific states?

All of that would be subject to whatever negotiations take place to make separation legal. As such, it’s practically impossible to know which concessions would be made by which sides, it’s too dependent upon the who, when, and why of such talks. I’m sure everyone can list their preferences, but until the ink is dry on the treaties, we won’t know for sure.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-yea-nay-or-something-else-trump-will-bulldoze-the-entire-white-house-to-the-ground/1031590/85 "2026-07-20T17:23:36Z")

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I fear such balkanization of the U.S. would result in more than a few wars down the line.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-yea-nay-or-something-else-trump-will-bulldoze-the-entire-white-house-to-the-ground/1031590/86 "2026-07-20T19:13:32Z")

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Better than just being rounded up and put in concentration camps with no ability to fight back, which is the direction we are presently headed.

Also, the Red States would probably largely collapse without the rest of the country propping them up. They are incompetent and parasitic, and highly dependent on the more functional Blue States to not just fall into kleptocracy, starvation, decay and internal massacres.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-yea-nay-or-something-else-trump-will-bulldoze-the-entire-white-house-to-the-ground/1031590/87 "2026-07-20T19:14:33Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Also, the Red States would probably largely collapse without the rest of the country propping them up. They are incompetent and parasitic, and highly dependent on the more functional Blue States to not just fall into kleptocracy, starvation, decay and internal massacres.

They’ll make sure to take the blue states with them if that happens.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-yea-nay-or-something-else-trump-will-bulldoze-the-entire-white-house-to-the-ground/1031590/88 "2026-07-20T19:17:15Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> They’ll make sure to take the blue states with them if that happens.

I presume that either the Blue states have the nuclear weapons or that they’ve all been destroyed, or the Reds will try to destroy civilization on general principles; if they can’t control the world, then they’ll kill it.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-yea-nay-or-something-else-trump-will-bulldoze-the-entire-white-house-to-the-ground/1031590/89 "2026-07-20T19:19:47Z")

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MAD

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-yea-nay-or-something-else-trump-will-bulldoze-the-entire-white-house-to-the-ground/1031590/90 "2026-07-20T19:22:06Z")

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That only works with people who value their life _above_ their hate, and the Right doesn’t. Not to mention they are heavily infested with people who want a nuclear war so Jesus will come back.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-yea-nay-or-something-else-trump-will-bulldoze-the-entire-white-house-to-the-ground/1031590/91 "2026-07-20T19:23:15Z")

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Exactly, I wasn’t predicting MAD to work as a deterrent, I was predicting Mutual Assured Destruction.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2026, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-yea-nay-or-something-else-trump-will-bulldoze-the-entire-white-house-to-the-ground/1031590/92 "2026-07-22T10:56:15Z")

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You’re a dumb guy and the problem is you’re one of those idiots who think you’re smart. Dumb people thinking they’re smart causes a lot of problems in the world.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2026, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-yea-nay-or-something-else-trump-will-bulldoze-the-entire-white-house-to-the-ground/1031590/93 "2026-07-22T17:40:06Z")

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That would be worth the money. A symbol of leaving his, ugly, flabby, decayed, grasping, spiteful, ass behind.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2026, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-yea-nay-or-something-else-trump-will-bulldoze-the-entire-white-house-to-the-ground/1031590/94 "2026-07-22T18:51:39Z")

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As long as we make it perfectly clear. I’m talking billboards and TV, that Trump and the GOP made this mess and the American people are going to pay to fix it.

Deal in facts.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-yea-nay-or-something-else-trump-will-bulldoze-the-entire-white-house-to-the-ground/1031590/95 "2026-08-13T02:07:32Z")

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Now he’s planning a “redesign” of the West Wing.

And the budget for all White House renovations is up to $900 million, no Congress required.

> **[Trump administration to spend at least $900 million on White House...](https://thehill-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/thehill.com/homenews/administration/6025430-trump-white-house-construction-costs/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1&amp_gsa=1#webview=1)**
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> The Trump administration is expected to spend at least $900 million on White House construction projects that will be fueled in part by taxpayer dollars without the approval of Congress, according …

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**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-yea-nay-or-something-else-trump-will-bulldoze-the-entire-white-house-to-the-ground/1031590/96 "2026-08-13T03:12:59Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> So why should we believe these people when they make the same claims in 2026?

Ah yes, the people you referred to as “hysterical” in the Pit thread you started. The one where your opinion was so popular that you couldn’t convince a single person to agree with you, and never admitted that calling people hysterical could be taken as an insult. You lost your credibility a long time ago, champ.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poll-yea-nay-or-something-else-trump-will-bulldoze-the-entire-white-house-to-the-ground/1031590/97 "2026-08-27T11:04:19Z")

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ICE abducted 49,000 people in one month. We were right. You were wrong.

> **[ICE arrests jumped to nearly 50,000 in July, the highest monthly total of...](https://abcnews.com/US/wireStory/ice-arrests-jumped-50000-july-highest-monthly-total-135941401)**
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> Immigration and Customs Enforcement arrested nearly 50,000 people in July

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