# Polling is broken, right? Or is it the news? Or all of the US?

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**Created:** [November 27, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polling-is-broken-right-or-is-it-the-news-or-all-of-the-us/993779 "2023-11-27T17:30:18Z")\
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Thanks for the assist, @Win_Place_Show.

@DigitalC posted another NYT piece to the “Stop Panicking” thread – this one by their pollster Nate Cohn. IMHO, a pretty damning account of the state of affairs of current polling. It’s interesting to me that Cohn writes like he’s outside of the fray, not making the mistakes other pollsters are making.

> [@Stop Panicking!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/1294):
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> According to Nate Conh: [quote]It’s hard to overstate how traumatic the 2016 and 2020 elections were for many pollsters. For some, another underestimate of Mr. Trump could be a major threat to their business and their livelihood. For the rest, their status and reputations are on the line. If they underestimate Mr. Trump a third straight time, how can their polls be trusted again? It is much safer, whether in terms of literal self-interest or purely psychologically, to find a close race than to…

> **[So, Can We Trust the Polls?](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/01/upshot/so-can-we-trust-the-polls.html)**
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> Recent changes add up to a case for cautious optimism on better accuracy, but that’s far from a guarantee.

_(paywalled)_

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