# Polls about board users?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [November 19, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116 "2009-11-19T03:26:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116/1 "2009-11-19T03:26:58Z")

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Is it allowable to have polls voting on how users are regarded, or is that “don’t even go there” territory?

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**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116/2 "2009-11-19T03:32:48Z")

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Not sure I understand what you mean here.

We certain appreciate everyone who is a member of the Straight Dope community, couldn’t have a community without users. We’re grateful for 'em. Surely that’s not what you mean.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116/3 "2009-11-19T03:36:41Z")

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I think he’s taking about something more like:

Is Oakminster a nice guy?

A. Yes, he rocks.  
B. No, he’s an asshole.  
C. Fool of a Took\*, you forgot \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_

\*Stolen from **Skald the Rhymer** who got it from some fantasy novel about a ring

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**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116/4 "2009-11-19T03:39:41Z")

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Never mind.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116/5 "2009-11-19T03:47:52Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I think he’s taking about something more like:
> 
> Is Oakminster a nice guy?
> 
> A. Yes, he rocks.  
> B. No, he’s an asshole.  
> C. Fool of a Took\*, you forgot \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_

B!  
Jus’ Joke! (As we used to say in Hawaii) 😃

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116/6 "2009-11-19T03:49:29Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> B!  
> Jus’ Joke! (As we used to say in Hawaii) 😃

Somebody had to do it. 😃

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116/7 "2009-11-19T13:01:17Z")

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I’m also confused, but I assume that you mean a poll of the type that **Oakminster** mentions? I can’t see how that’s anything but a personal insult, which would not be permitted in any of the forums that allow polls.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116/8 "2009-11-19T13:15:11Z")

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Or were you thinking of a poll where each of the vote options was a different poster? (Who’s your favorite mod: twicks, Dex, gfactor, tomndebb…)

That, too, seems like an invitation to stir up bad feelings for no good reason.

**Lumpy** – could you come back and spell out a little more clearly what you have in mind?

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116/9 "2009-11-19T17:47:29Z")

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What **Oakminster** said.

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116/10 "2009-11-19T20:13:21Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> What **Oakminster** said.

In that case, I think we’d need to handle each request on a situation-by-situation analysis. My gut feeling is that such a poll would involve personal insult and so not be allowed; however, I don’t want to make a blanket ruling. For instance, a poll such as:

> [@](#):
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> \*\*I think **Oakminster** is:  
> (a) an outstanding poster  
> (b) a truly wonderful human being  
> (c) extraordinarily intelligent.

OK, so there’s no personal insult involved. Does that mean we’d allow it? I suppose; we’d need to discuss it. I don’t know that it accomplishes much, though.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116/11 "2009-11-20T02:13:31Z")

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Sorry to get into the technical details, but the question is interesting to me.

Devil’s advocate: In the case of the hypothetical **Oakminister** poll, the OP is NOT making an insult. There’s only an insult to **Oak** IF someone picks the negative option. Why assume that anyone will vote for that option?

Would there be a difference if the voters’ picks were public vs. not?

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116/12 "2009-11-20T02:17:05Z")

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If you’re assuming no one will vote for one of the options, why include it?

And no, I don’t see any substantial difference between a public and a private vote in such a poll.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116/13 "2009-11-20T02:31:25Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> If you’re assuming no one will vote for one of the options, why include it?

If you start a poll with “pro” options, and no “con” options, you’re not really learning anything with the results. People that believe “con” can’t/won’t participate. For example:

Do you think kittens are:

1. OMG SQUEE!
2. Cute widdle fuzzy-wuzzies
3. YAY for Kittens!

All the available choices are really the same for practical intents and purposes.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116/14 "2009-11-20T12:42:28Z")

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That was pretty much my point, albeit from a different approach. I was saying (or trying to, anyway) that if you’re either not expecting a negative answer under your premises [your example], or if the mods have made it clear that we wouldn’t allow for a negative answer because it would be troublemaking [my example], why run the poll?

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116/15 "2009-11-20T13:10:22Z")

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If the poster himself or herself is the one who runs the poll, why wouldn’t it be the same as asking his real-life friends? Tell me truly:

Is Sigmagirl:

(a) Too judgmental?  
(b) Really funny, or is she just kidding herself?  
© Overly worried about what other people will think about her?  
(d) Practically perfect in every way?

If you don’t have a friend handy to tell you you’ve told that damn story about the skateboard and the jello once too often, you turn to the Dope and ask.

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116/16 "2009-11-20T13:57:21Z")

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Hmm. I dunno, **Sigmagirl** , I think the mods will have to discuss this one. Unlike the other examples, I can see arguments for this. We’ll get back to you.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116/17 "2009-11-20T16:33:42Z")

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I feel this is a very bad idea myself.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116/18 "2009-11-20T18:02:57Z")

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The only way I can see this working is to enable polling in the Pit.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116/19 "2009-11-20T19:52:25Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> The only way I can see this working is to enable polling in the Pit.
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

Not. A. Chance.

BTW, not asking you specifically but everyone who thinks this is a good idea – why is it the majority of the creativity is devoted to ways of inflicting injury on other people? Y’all could probably find a cure for cancer with all the energy expended on finding cute ways to annoy and harass and insult others.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-about-board-users/518116/20 "2009-11-20T21:07:26Z")

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> [@TubaDiva](#):
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> Not. A. Chance.

I hope I didn’t offend you - that was very far from my intent.

I don’t see very many ways that a poll Pitting me (for instance) would be significantly worse than a normal Pitting. Maybe I am unusual in that way. I imagine a good many of the polls in the Pit (if you enabled such a feature - I have no opinion on whether that is a good idea or not) would be set up like:

\*Poll about **Shodan** :

Is he [list=A][li]A jerk [_]An asshole [_]A troll [_]All of the above[/list]_[/li]I don’t find that significantly more offensive than the usual run of Pittings.

> [@](#):
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> BTW, not asking you specifically but everyone who thinks this is a good idea – why is it the majority of the creativity is devoted to ways of inflicting injury on other people? Y’all could probably find a cure for cancer with all the energy expended on finding cute ways to annoy and harass and insult others.

Well, that’s what the Pit is for.

I would like to think I spend a significant amount of what creativity I might display on the SDMB on something other than insults.

I feel like I have hit a sore spot, for which I apologize. It was just speculation.

Regards,  
Shodan

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