# Polls show McCain winning the electoral college **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 12, 2008, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-show-mccain-winning-the-electoral-college/463303 "2008-09-12T17:08:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-show-mccain-winning-the-electoral-college/463303/81 "2008-09-13T17:05:29Z")
> [@stuyguy](#): > > You know all those accusations from loudmouth right-wingers about how the media is slanted liberal, and how Republican candidates never get an even break? Smart people, of course, know that that’s just crocodile tears, a sympathy-seeking ploy. Smarter people remember that it has its basis in fact. Remember Dan Rather and that memo? Even smarter people recognise that everyone has their own biases and that extends to the media too. CNN has its biases, Fox has its biases, as does MSNBC, as does The Washington Post, as does the Wall Street Journal, as does everybody. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-show-mccain-winning-the-electoral-college/463303/82 "2008-09-13T17:34:03Z")
> [@stuyguy](#): > > Still, I suspect that members of the MSM are getting more and more pissed at the Republicans’ games as every day goes by. I predict that, if this election is looking close down the home stretch, influential players in the press will do everything they can to throw the election to Obama just short of giving him the keys to a network broadcast booth and walking away. I think you are correct. > [@](#): > > Reporters, editors and producers, I’ll bet you, hate being falsely scapegoated by Republicans after every imagined slight. Here’s the problem - it isn’t false. See the Halperin memo and the National Guard forgeries in 2004, and even that didn’t work. > [@](#): > > They hate that Sarah Palin is a toothy airhead who’s getting a free pass to the White House. No, what they hate is the loss of their power to be gate-keepers and those who determine what the debate is about. Used to be, if if you didn’t like your news slanted to the left, you still went to the MSM because there was nowhere else to go. Now there is AM radio, Fox News, and the Internet, and we don’t have to take the East Coast elitist view of things as the default. A few days before the election, CBS released the forged documents in coordination with the Democratic party’s “Fortunate Son” campaign, hoping that nobody would spot the fakes in time to stop them from throwing the election to Kerry. Unfortunately, conservative bloggers had the word out that they were forged within a few hours, and Dan Rather wound up looking like the whiny left-wing loser he was for the last twenty years. They are _already_ doing exactly what you say they will be doing, and they have been for thirty years. They’re just getting caught more now. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-show-mccain-winning-the-electoral-college/463303/83 "2008-09-13T18:09:34Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Used to be, if if you didn’t like your news slanted to the left, you still went to the MSM because there was nowhere else to go. Now there is AM radio, Fox News, and the Internet… Okay, Fox News and the Internet are new, but I’m almost certain AM radio’s been around for awhile. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-show-mccain-winning-the-electoral-college/463303/84 "2008-09-13T19:04:41Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > If it makes you feel better, [http://pollster.com](http://pollster.com) has a slightly more optimistic view than your link. I think your link uses the most recent poll for each state while pollster uses the trend. Make of each what you will. This is exactly why I don’t pay much attention to polls. Look how different those are. For example, Montana: Pollster says “toss-up state” (49-46), while VoteFromAbroad says “Strong GOP” (53-42). Idaho: Pollster says 59-30.5 McCain and VFA says 68-29 McCain. New York: Pollster says 52.5-33 Obama and VFA says 47-39 Obama. Overall: Pollster says 243-224 EVs for Obama, VFA says 270-268 EVs for McCain. If they’re that different, then it makes me doubt both of them. ---
**Author:** ![howye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9adbd/32.png) [@howye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/howye)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-show-mccain-winning-the-electoral-college/463303/85 "2008-09-13T19:07:33Z")
Hey, Obama supporters! [Chill](http://punditkitchen.com/2008/09/05/political-pictures-barack-obama-chill-out-got-this/) (Language may be NSFW) From the heart of Ohio, my bumper sticker survey continues. Went to the home store and sandwich shop today. Saw three Obama stickers and ZERO McCain material. This was in a district that consistently votes Republican. Again, stop looking at polls. Yesterday, in Ohio Obama had gained 5 points from male voters alone. A poll released today shows McCain had gained 5 points from … wait for it … male voters. Either (1) male voters in Ohio had a change of heart in 24 hours, a 10 point change of heart, or (2) polling at this point is completely useless. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-show-mccain-winning-the-electoral-college/463303.md?page=4)