# Polycarp did you forget to take you pills? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 3, 2003, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640 "2003-12-03T03:54:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![IWLN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@IWLN](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IWLN)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/761 "2003-12-13T00:14:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by vanilla \* > \*\*we know that because we have the photos. \*\* Not like 'em, like 'em. Just like 'em. :o ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/762 "2003-12-13T00:22:58Z")
Oh you _guys_ , I was just kidding. I know a woman who named her twins David and Jonathon. never met a baboon ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/763 "2003-12-13T01:25:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Kalhoun \* > \*\*Well, then can I interpret your opinion as being that ALL biblical passages describing god as pissed off and vengeful are hyperbole? \*\* This calls for a “yabbit” post! 🙂 First, all attributing of human characteristics to God is metaphoric anthropomorphizing. But it’s a heckuva lot easier to say “God loves sinners” than to say “…that state in the divine consciousness most nearly represented by a parallel to love in humanity…” Paul Tillich has some interesting insights into the nature of God – but he writes in a language that uses the same articles, conjunctions, linking verbs, and such as English, but has some of the most bizarre abstract substantives you ever saw, in an effort to make this sort of distinction. Given that, the statements “Fred is a mellow, placid individual filled with the milk of human kindness” and “Did you see how pissed Fred got at that jerk?” can be said about the same individual without contradiction. It is plausible for a loving God to be angry at some action; it is equally plausible that He express anger and vengefulness as the mechanism most likely to guide a particular human being in a particular proper course, much as a parent might discipline a child he loves. (That Father metaphor has some interesting corollaries.) However, I submit that it’s human nature to take the attitude, “My Giant Magical Sky Pixie can beat up your Magical Giant Sky Pixie.” (And I call on all theists to read that sentence carefully – it’s in no way pejorative of **God**.) And I’ve seen more than a few comments about the divine justice that, boiled down, translate to, “God loves **me** , because **I’m** good – but **you** better watch out, cause _you’ve been **ba-a-a–ad!** _!” I’m sure you’ve seen comments on AIDS being God’s judgment on gays, or Jerry Fouwell’s comment that 9/11 was God’s judgment on America’s apostasy. Other examples aren’t hard to come by. The point is that it’s easy to portray God as “Invisible-Hank-who-agrees -with-me” and call Him into evidence in any disagreement. “He loves us Israelites and chose us, and He hates them Canaanites who live in the land He gave us.” Well, maybe – but maybe it’s convenient to claim to have Him on our side, too. So, bluntly, if I run across such a passage, I read it with my skepticism and BS detector set to “high” but I don’t automatically discount it. The odds that it’s telling the truth are significantly higher than the anally-propelled baboons mentioned above – but just because it says so doesn’t make it true. (This post is giving my opinion, and should properly be well stocked with IMHOs – but I think it’s obvious where I’m expressing opinion.) ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/764 "2003-12-13T01:47:32Z")
> [@](#): > > First, all attributing of human characteristics to God is metaphoric anthropomorphizing. But it’s a heckuva lot easier to say “God loves sinners” than to say “…that state in the divine consciousness most nearly represented by a parallel to love in humanity…” > Given that, the statements “Fred is a mellow, placid individual filled with the milk of human kindness” and “Did you see how pissed Fred got at that jerk?” can be said about the same individual without contradiction. It is plausible for a loving God to be angry at some action; it is equally plausible that He express anger and vengefulness as the mechanism most likely to guide a particular human being in a particular proper course, much as a parent might discipline a child he loves. (That Father metaphor has some interesting corollaries.) The problem is, however, that God doesn’t just get pissed. God gets [royally, insanely and indefensibly](http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/num/31.html) pissed. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/765 "2003-12-13T01:55:12Z")
Yo, **H4E**. . . I reckon you have enough on your plate bitching about the evil false teacher with your buddies on (ahem) other message boards. There’s no fucking reason for you to post in this thread. Go back to your self-righteous masturbation over there, willya? Oh, and **Rose**? Thanks for not shitting on Poly, here or elsewhere. I know it’s difficult sometimes, but I’m glad you’re showing the restraint that other folks seem to have difficulty with. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/766 "2003-12-13T02:11:07Z")
Sometimes I do get carried away with certain things and start rolling along. I’ve always got to watch myself. I am nowhere near as Godly as I wish I was. None of us are. But I think lynn’s heart is in the right place. (I like Poly. Who wouldn’t? But his sudden seeming statement of Jesus returning as another person (which is how I read it, intended or not) tripped me out. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/767 "2003-12-13T02:30:13Z")
:sigh: I have trouble reining myself in, too. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/768 "2003-12-13T02:32:53Z")
we All have trouble with rein, dear. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/769 "2003-12-13T03:31:49Z")
:: _jaw drops_ :: Well if that doesn’t kill this thread nothing can. (Seriously. I’m in awe, **vanilla**. :eek: ) 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/770 "2003-12-13T04:11:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by vanilla \* > \*\*we All have trouble with rein, dear. > > 🙂 \*\* Wow, you’re certainly feeling your oats tonight! 🙂 I’ts nice of you to _care aboo_t **Andros** ’s rein, dear 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/771 "2003-12-13T04:22:07Z")
Ow. Ow ow ow ow ow. Ow. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/772 "2003-12-13T04:25:07Z")
Ow. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/773 "2003-12-13T04:29:02Z")
> [@](#): > > **Andros:** > Ow. > > Ow ow ow ow ow. > > Ow. Is that what Santa’s “Ho, ho, ho!” turns into when Rudolph steps on his toes? ---
**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/774 "2003-12-13T04:50:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by andros \* > \*\*Yo, **H4E**. . . I reckon you have enough on your plate bitching about the evil false teacher with your buddies on (ahem) other message boards. \*\* Okay, I am apparently losing my mind. When did His4Ever post to this thread? When I saw this post, I checked again. And I still didn’t see it. ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/775 "2003-12-13T04:50:35Z")
Erm…Andros? I don’t see that **His4ever** has posted in this thread. Her account has been deactivated. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/776 "2003-12-13T04:54:25Z")
**His4Ever** is now **lynn73**. She changed her user name. ---
**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/777 "2003-12-13T05:04:35Z")
Well see, Ducky…that’s what we get for not paying attention. Or something. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/778 "2003-12-13T05:36:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by IWLN \* > \*\*Thank you. And I do actually like baboons. 😉 \*\* As long as you don’t tell me that they are flying out of your posterior, that’s between the baboons and you. OTOH, if that’s the case, I hereby solemnly swear to convert to whatever current of religious thought you follow. However, let it be understood that I’d do so not because I’d _want_ baboons flying out of my own posterior, 'cuase I simply wouldn’t know, but because such an extraordinary event would leave me utterly devoid of arguments vis-a-vis any other claim you may choose to make. And now, if you’ll allow me a flight of fancy, I can’t help but wonder, is this phenomenom enjoyable for all parties involved? I think I can see what the baboon “would get out of it,” but I’m not sure I understand what the “ejector” would. Further, could one spank the monkey while ejecting the baboon? On second thought, never mind. That’s waay more than I want/need to know. Methinks I am kinky enough as it is. Hmm…maybe they should re-title this thread “Monkey Love” Anyway… Take good care, I’m sorry your lighthearted response er…_backfired_ on you. But this is a tough crowd if you hadn’t noticed – all in good dirty fun of course and you seem like a good sport. BTW, welcome to the SDMB. Hope you stick around. Heck, bring your pets if you want to. if I may say so myself, judging from **vanilla’s** pictures they are damn cute too. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/779 "2003-12-13T05:37:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by IWLN \* > \*\*Thank you. And I do actually like baboons. 😉 \*\* As long as you don’t tell me that they are flying out of your posterior, that’s between the baboons and you. OTOH, if that’s the case, I hereby solemnly swear to convert to whatever current of religious thought you follow. However, let it be understood that I’d do so not because I’d _want_ baboons flying out of my own posterior, 'cuase I simply wouldn’t know, but because such an extraordinary event would leave me utterly devoid of arguments vis-a-vis any other claim you may choose to make. And now, if you’ll allow me a flight of fancy, I can’t help but wonder, is this phenomenom enjoyable for all parties involved? I think I can see what the baboon “would get out of it,” but I’m not sure I understand what the “ejector” would. Further, could one spank the monkey while ejecting the baboon? On second thought, never mind. That’s waay more than I want/need to know. Methinks I am kinky enough as it is. Hmm…maybe they should re-title this thread “Hot Monkey Love” Anyway… Take good care, I’m sorry your lighthearted response er…_backfired_ on you. But this is a tough crowd if you hadn’t noticed – all in good dirty fun of course and you seem like a good sport. BTW, welcome to the SDMB. Hope you stick around. Heck, bring your pets if you want to. if I may say so myself, judging from **vanilla’s** pictures they are damn cute too. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/780 "2003-12-13T05:53:24Z")
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