# Polycarp did you forget to take you pills? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 3, 2003, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640 "2003-12-03T03:54:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![IWLN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@IWLN](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IWLN)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/781 "2003-12-13T06:19:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RedFury \* > As long as you don’t tell me that they are flying out of your posterior, that’s between the baboons and you. OTOH, if that’s the case, I hereby solemnly swear to convert to whatever current of religious thought you follow. Okay, they are(I don’t have pictures though, ask Vanilla). Pay up. You don’t have to convert to a religion, since I don’t have one handy or that I endorse anymore, except for my own(thanks SDMB). Just one small thing would please me. **STOP BLAMING EVERY FUCKING THING ON GOD!!!** Hey, I’ve never actually typed that word before. I gotta stop coming here. I hope I’m still in the pit.😉 > [@](#): > > However, let it be understood that I’d do so not because I’d _want_ baboons flying out of my own posterior, 'cuase I simply wouldn’t know, but because such an extraordinary event would leave me utterly devoid of arguments vis-a-vis any other claim you may choose to make. Uh…uh…uh… > [@](#): > > And now, if you’ll allow me a flight of fancy, I can’t help but wonder, is this phenomenom enjoyable for all parties involved? I think I can see what the baboon “would get out of it,” but I’m not sure I understand what the “ejector” would. Further, could one spank the monkey while ejecting the baboon? Let me guess(I’m psychic you know). You’re a guy. It’s Friday night. You have beer. Okay, I will have to respectfully refuse to be your stewardess on this particular “flight of fancy.” > [@](#): > > On second thought, never mind. That’s waay more than I want/need to know. Methinks I am kinky enough as it is. Hey, we agree on something else. > [@](#): > > Hmm…maybe they should re-title this thread “Monkey Love” I like that better than the current title.☹ > [@](#): > > Anyway… > > Take good care, I’m sorry your lighthearted response er…_backfired_ on you. But this is a tough crowd if you hadn’t noticed – all in good dirty fun of course and you seem like a good sport. BTW, welcome to the SDMB. Hope you stick around. Heck, bring your pets if you want to. if I may say so myself, judging from **vanilla’s** pictures they are damn cute too. I do photograph well, don’t I? My blonde hair with his dark coloring. I don’t think it’s a tough crowd and now that I typed my first really dirty word, hopefully I won’t get pitted for being too “nice” someday. :eek: “Thank you. And I actually do like baboons”, should be my new sig line. ---
**Author:** ![lynn73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@lynn73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lynn73)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/782 "2003-12-13T17:36:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by andros \* > \*\*Yo, **H4E**. . . I reckon you have enough on your plate bitching about the evil false teacher with your buddies on (ahem) other message boards. > > There’s no fucking reason for you to post in this thread. Go back to your self-righteous masturbation over there, willya? > \*\* Whatever you say, andros. :rolleyes: Nothing here has changed, I see. There’s reason for me to post in this thread if I choose to since I do still have an active account here and was made aware of the thread on another board. I’m not the only one who is totally astonished and saddened at the things Polycarp is putting forth. As to your other comments, truth is truth and falsehood is falsehood. The Bible says what it says and Polycarp, in my opinion, has departed from that. The Bible warns about deception and people departing from the true faith and giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. I’m sorry, but in my opinion that’s what’s happening to Poly. He claims to be a Christian and the Bible says for Christians to exhort one another and that the word of God is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, and instruction in righteousness. So, according to the Bible, I’m supposed to say something to a fellow Christian if I recognize falsehood being propogated. Am I not entitled to share my opinion even though it’s unpopular? Are only opinions allowed here that happen to agree with the majority? Why not just put some announcement on the board for newcomers so they’ll know that not all opinions are welcomed here and any disagreement with the clique will bring instant pitting? There’s no “self-righteousness” or animosity here in spite of popular Dope opinion. Just a great sadness, that’s all, at the things I see happening. While I’m far from perfect and have much to learn from the Lord, you don’t know my heart or where I’m coming from. I’m not self righteous. I’m not good. The only righteousness and goodness in me is the righeousness and goodness of Christ given when I accepted Him as Savior. And, whether any of you believe it or not, I’m deeply concerned about what I see happening with Polycarp and others. I doubt that you’re going to understand that, though. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![lynn73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@lynn73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lynn73)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/783 "2003-12-13T17:40:11Z")
P.S. I am not s–tting on Polcarp, either. I’m just giving an opinion on what I see and I’m concerned about him. So I’d appreciate it if you wouldn’t accuse me of hating him or anything like that because it isn’t true. ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/784 "2003-12-13T19:02:46Z")
Bullshit, **H4E / L73** … you’ve said quite enough on those other boards to show that taking a good, healthy dump on **Poly** is about the only thing you excel at. -David ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/785 "2003-12-13T20:56:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lynn73 \* > …and was made aware of the thread on another board. The self-proclaimed True Believers are still gossiping about me? Somehow I’m not surprised. Is this the same board that decided I must be a transvestite because I care about how gay people feel? > [@](#): > > I’m not the only one who is totally astonished and saddened at the things Polycarp is putting forth. As to your other comments, truth is truth and falsehood is falsehood. The Bible says what it says and Polycarp, in my opinion, has departed from that. The Bible warns about deception and people departing from the true faith and giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. I’m sorry, but in my opinion that’s what’s happening to Poly. He claims to be a Christian and the Bible says for Christians to exhort one another and that the word of God is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, and instruction in righteousness. So, according to the Bible, I’m supposed to say something to a fellow Christian if I recognize falsehood being propogated. Am I not entitled to share my opinion even though it’s unpopular? Are only opinions allowed here that happen to agree with the majority? Why not just put some announcement on the board for newcomers so they’ll know that not all opinions are welcomed here and any disagreement with the clique will bring instant pitting? There’s no “self-righteousness” or animosity here in spite of popular Dope opinion. Just a great sadness, that’s all, at the things I see happening. Fair enough. Whether you believe it or not, the last thing I want to do, ever, is to proclaim a false Gospel. That we disagree on the nature of the Good News is no surprise to you, I’m sure. Your accusations that I’m teaching falsehood date well before this thread. So how about identifying specific errors that I’ve made, quoting them, and setting the record straight on what I’m saying that’s false. Never mind the kid discussed above; enough people have shot that down already. What else am I saying that’s “a false Gospel”? > [@](#): > > And, whether any of you believe it or not, I’m deeply concerned about what I see happening with Polycarp and others. I doubt that you’re going to understand that, though. ☹ \*\* I’d like to believe that; truly I would. What I’ve seen, mostly, is accusations of heresy, instead of any expressions of caring about me or **Siege**. (I think this is the fist time you’ve ever set in “print” that you care about me as an individual. And how you feel about her, my sister in spirit, is evident from the e-mail exchanges.) There’s your challenge – this is the Pit. Let’s hear where I’m wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/786 "2003-12-13T21:05:25Z")
**Poly** , any thoughts on Unitarian Christians? Just curious, as your spritual journey and those things you hold dear seem to mirror those of a few UU Xtians I have known. All the best, man. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/787 "2003-12-13T21:08:20Z")
I know you don’t know me, **Polycarp** , but I would like to express – as a non-Christian who was raised in a Lutheran household – your views are actually making Christianity a little more approachable. Thank you for your candor. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/788 "2003-12-13T22:05:46Z")
**Lynn** : > [@](#): > > the Bible says for Christians to exhort one another and that the word of God is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, and instruction in righteousness. So, according to the Bible, I’m supposed to say something to a fellow Christian if I recognize falsehood being propogated. Except that you don’t consider Polycarp a Christian, do you? Sorry, chica, you cannot have it both ways. Either a) Poly is a Christian, in which case you had better fucking sure show him respect as a brother in the midst of all your reproof and correction, or b) he’s not a Christian, and you don’t have the right to reprove and correct him as a brother in Christ. Which is it? C’mon, you can tell yer old pal andros. Won’t hurt a bit. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/789 "2003-12-13T22:10:56Z")
Ditto to what **Mr. B** has said, from a raised-Congregationalist atheist/agnostic (depends which side of the bed I get up on ;)). I appreciate your willingness to share your spiritual journey without trying to impose it on anyone else. Would that the more doctrinaire were as blessed with humility. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2003, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/790 "2003-12-13T22:45:34Z")
I would like to see that thread, where lynn73 puts forth where Poly is going against the gospel and Polycarp coming to explain where he isn’t, etc. But this thread is too long, start another one. Lynn? ---
**Author:** ![Edlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8797f3/32.png) [@Edlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edlyn)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/791 "2003-12-14T01:55:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dalovindj \* > Cite? You are misrepresenting what I said entirely. The following sentence in that post was: “This is particularly true of extremely religious people (in my experience).” I in no way said that it only applies to religious people, and even qualified the statement as subjective (“in my experience”). As a matter of fact I later gave several non-religious examples of objects of such types of obsession, i.e, the illuminati, aliens & transdimensional beings; none of which would I consider to be of a religious nature. I think you need to re-read my post - it didn’t take the first time. Unless you can cite where I indicated, or even suggested, that clinical mania is exclusive to religious people, a retraction of that particular strawman would be greatly appreciated. I’ll take back the word only in my original response to you. Yes, you did mention the other candidates **in one line of the forty-one lines of your post** that dealt with religion or very religious people. I did see that one line, however, it was lost upon the content of all the other lines in your post. You walked a thin tightrope. I’ll grant you that. Ever thought of running for a political office? Now I have to decide whether I want to spend the rest of my evening catching up with this thread or not. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/792 "2003-12-14T02:36:45Z")
nah, send Lib in with his opinion. I would like to hear it and I’m sure others would too. ---
**Author:** ![Edlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8797f3/32.png) [@Edlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edlyn)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/793 "2003-12-14T03:42:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Triskadecamus \* > \*\*Suppose God decided to become . . . oh, say, me. Now, It’s obvious to everyone, including me, that I am not God, nor any close order of magnitude an approximation of God. But, God can do what God wills. If He wanted to become me, then Me He would be. > > Of course to us (not including Me) it would seem that I had become God. (To the utter exasperation and confoundment of many, I am sure. 🙂 ) Many would turn from Me, and despise Me, ignoring the fact that all that I did and said after that miraculous moment was in fact Godly, and Righteous. And if I were to gather to Me all the souls that give their hearts to Me, in love, and take them out of the travails of the world, and deliver them into that state men call heaven, then God would have indeed come and become the Son of Man, and the Son of God, and fulfilled the prophecy and promise of the Resurrection. It might piss off a few theologians that God chose some asshole like me. But the fact is that we don’t know the nature of the Second coming, nor its hour. Will you know the Son of God when you meet Him? Don’t take a chance. Treat me better. Yes, even me. > > Tris \*\* I totally disagree with you, **Tris**. You are not an asshole! Other than that, I loved your post. **vanilla** , **Lib** is free to do as he wishes without direction from me. I don’t tell him what to do. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/794 "2003-12-14T03:44:31Z")
oh,hon, I know that.I just meant you could suggest that some of us would like to hear from him. ---
**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/795 "2003-12-14T05:29:42Z")
Thanks, **Edlyn**. I was beginning to feel invisible, too. Oddly, enough, at the time I posted it, I though it was germane to the point of the theological correctness of **Poly** ’s perception of a gay boy becoming Christ returned. As it turned out, it was just another butterfly. But, what the heck, **Poly** is doing fine without my meandering mysticism. Tell **Lib** hi for me. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/796 "2003-12-14T05:45:44Z")
I thought it was germane, too. As someone who holds you in the highest of esteem, **Tris** , I keep getting bothered by the self-deprecation in your posts. But I figure that it’s your business how you maintain humility, so I tend to keep my mouth shut. I dunno about others, but we’re taught regularly to seek and serve Christ as He is found in others. I have a feeling that’s too mystical for **Lynn** ’s taste. And **Edlyn** , it’s wonderful to see you and **Lib** posting. I’ve missed you two! **Qadgop** , I hae quite literally never met a Unitarian Christian that I didn’t like. A former member here whom I cound a good friend would be a prime example. JFTR, I figure that doctrine matters – but people matter more. There’s a Bujold quote that says this perfectly which I cannot remember – perhaps somebody fond of her writings recognizes it? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/797 "2003-12-14T05:50:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Triskadecamus \* > > \*\* > … I though it was germane… > > \*\* The Jackson family is being discussed in a different thread. I’ll thank you _not_ to hijack this one. **Poly** , I still love you, man. You, too, **H4E**. In the big finale, _whenever it comes,_ we’ll all be depending on God’s mercy. But this whole debate (if it truly is one) is kind of wierding me out. That’s why I haven’t posted an opinion in it. Is it possible that emotions are getting the best of us here? _Any_ of us? Just a thought. Fight the fine fight of the faith, y’all. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/798 "2003-12-14T05:55:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ilsa\_Lund \* > \*\*The problem is, however, that God doesn’t just get pissed. God gets [royally, insanely and indefensibly](http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/num/31.html) pissed. \*\* Missed this before, **Ilsa**. Nope. What you’ve proved is that the **author of Numbers** had a case of the ass against the Midianites, and attributed it to God’s commands. Hell – was I dreaming in my memory that a political leader called for a Crusade to rid the world of an admittedly cruel and hateful Arab dictator, less than a year ago? Wanna look up the definition of “Crusade”? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/799 "2003-12-14T06:19:51Z")
> [@](#): > > **Lib** is free to do as he wishes without direction from me. I don’t tell him what to do. Yeah, that’s what Deb says about me, in public, also. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2003, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640/800 "2003-12-14T06:53:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CarnalK \* > \*\*I hear heavy foot shuffling. 😉 \*\* :: clears throat :: :: stares right back :: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640.md?page=39) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-did-you-forget-to-take-you-pills/216640.md?page=41)