# Polycarp’s a fucking liar.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 15, 2003, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053 "2003-12-15T03:21:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053/21 "2003-12-15T04:06:24Z")

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**badchad** , what the fuck is your problem?

Why do you even CARE about **Polycarp** ’s beliefs?

Unless you have a grudge against Christianity and learning that not all Christians are assholes destroys your perfect little crusade against the fundies?

Good god, man, grow the fuck up, get help.

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**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053/22 "2003-12-15T04:10:38Z")

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(sigh)

Maybe you have a valid point or two. Maybe the long thread needed an adjunct.

But you are not the person to host it. You are an asshole. You have no credibility on these boards. You seem obsessed with **Polycarp** and anyway, it’s bad form to start a new Pit thread on the same topic while your original one is still bubbling away.

Just get lost, woudja? Go stalk somebody else, on some other board.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053/23 "2003-12-15T04:12:53Z")

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**Badchad** , even if you have used _reason_ and _logic_ to make a point and catch **Poly** in a contradiction, you are still a horse’s ass. And this scientist and rationalist would, by far, prefer to have someone like **Polycarp** at my side or guarding my back as I face this world than an individual like you.

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**Author:** ![IWLN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@IWLN](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IWLN)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053/24 "2003-12-15T04:13:13Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by badchad \*  
> A tip for you IWLN. Reason isn’t a popularity contest and as I pointed out Poly is in fact a liar.

**Goodchad?** , nope. Just doesn’t go with your delightful spirit. Reason isn’t a popularity contest, but neither is it a determining factor in all debate. Love. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053/25 "2003-12-15T04:14:53Z")

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Just let it die.

What do you want **Poly** to do? Put on sackcloth and bow down before you? You want an award proclaiming you the winner of a 21-page long argument?

Be the bigger person and let it die already.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053/26 "2003-12-15T04:17:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\ ***badchad** , what the fuck is your problem?

\*\*  
Easy, **Guin** : He’s jealous. **Poly** is thoughtful, honest, compassionate, (even when I disagree with him) a clear thinker, and above all, civil. Badchad’s not. So he’s jealous.

> [@](#):
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> \*\*Why do you even CARE about **Polycarp** ’s beliefs?

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He doesn’t. He’s upset that, on the entire internet, there’s not _one single person_ who _likes_ Badchad. He’s probably sitting at home in his mother’s basement wondering desperately “Why am I so lonely? That **Polycarp** guy isn’t lonely. I hate him!”

See? It all fits together.

Fenris

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053/27 "2003-12-15T04:18:17Z")

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**badchad** , this OBSESSION of yours is clearly a cause of concern. Please look in the mirror and get some help.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053/28 "2003-12-15T04:23:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by galen ubal \*  
> \*\*Man, nobody _cares_ about your opinion, anymore. \*\*

_Anymore_?!

Wait…you mean someone cared about his opinion at some point? Who? I want _names_ mister! Remember: extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. 😉

Fenris

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**Author:** ![ReuvenB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@ReuvenB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReuvenB)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053/29 "2003-12-15T04:25:02Z")

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Geez. Get a hobby. Other than pitting Polycarp.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053/30 "2003-12-15T04:25:11Z")

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Gee, from what I can tell “strong hunch” may have been downgraded to “hunch”. Possibly, 2nd coming has been downgraded to nth Prophet, although I will note the latter encompasses the former.

Hardly a lie.

In fact, I believe I have reason to doubt the honesty of someone who characterizes it as a lie. After all, honest and honorable people are careful to avoid character assassination, unless they have a very strong case. Which this most definitely is not.

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053/31 "2003-12-15T04:29:32Z")

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> [@](#):
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> **Ok, so here’s the scoop for those who think the 21 plus pages [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb...40&pagenumber=1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb...40&pagenumber=1) are too many to read through.**

As of this moment, the thread in question is 17 pages long, not “21 plus”. Not even close.

Can you say, “exaggerated sense of self-importance”?

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053/32 "2003-12-15T04:32:08Z")

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Never mind, my bad for following outdated bookmark link.

But yer still a twerp.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053/33 "2003-12-15T04:32:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Fenris \*  
> \*\*_Anymore_?!
> 
> Wait…you mean someone cared about his opinion at some point? Who? I want _names_ mister! Remember: extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. 😉
> 
> Fenris \*\*

_snerk_  
I’m giving the man the benefit of the doubt - Christian charity and all that. Perhaps, on his first post, he said something worthwhile.  
And I’m sure his mother loves him…  
…well, pretty sure.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053/34 "2003-12-15T04:32:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by badchad in the 2nd thread \*  
> Polycarp talks of discussing specifics but it’s all a farce. Once you get him corned he’ll just broad brush everything and accuse you of nitpicking. Then when you and your allies are having a little fun with him, he’ll cry like a baby that the thread be closed. Just like he did with me:
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> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=220165&perpage=40&pagenumber=9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=220165&perpage=40&pagenumber=9)

So, who is the liar? Let’s see if **Polycarp** whined or if **Badchad** is fabricating false posts to justify his jerkish behavior:

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> _From Polycarp in the 1st thread_
> 
> As for the OP, he has made it quite clear, both here and in a GQ thread, that he is not seeking answers to how I feel I can legitimately hold the views I do, but rather attempting to find ways to attack me. As such, I personally consider him to be in violation of Rule #1, though it is of course the decision of the Admins. as to whether that is the case. But I feel that I have answered his questions, perhaps not in the point-by-point itemized list he asked, but with generalized statements on mymethodology and on Jesus’s rhetorical usages that make clear what my answers to any point-by-point list would be. And given his announced intent, further responses directly addressing him would be a wate of everyone’s time.
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> Accordingly, unless the Mods. see a reason to keep this thread open, I request its closure.

My opinion? Not a whine. Anyone else see it differently?

**Badchad** , you are now a pain. While I don’t agree that **Poly** is on the right track here (an opinion only), I think you are so far beneath contempt that I won’t even bother to use foul language to curse your twisted heart. Anyways, why would I bother? You’ve already shown your true colours.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053/35 "2003-12-15T04:48:42Z")

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Poor **Badchad**! Aw, see the babe mope!  
How he snarls at the end of his rope!  
He tried to pit **Poly**  
Two times; heh, but all he  
Accomplished was prove he’s a dope.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053/36 "2003-12-15T04:58:21Z")

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Good call, **Fenris**.

Yeesh, and I thought I was obsessive!

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**Author:** ![Dr.Lao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Dr.Lao](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Lao)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053/37 "2003-12-15T05:03:23Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by badchad \*  
> **A tip for you IWLN. Reason isn’t a popularity contest and as I pointed out Poly is in fact a liar.**

Personal hard-on threads rarely go over well in the Pit, regardless of the popularity of the object of said hard-on. No body else cares about the raging erection you have for Polycarp other than you.

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**Author:** ![badchad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@badchad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badchad)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053/38 "2003-12-15T05:06:47Z")

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Flowbark:

> [@](#):
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> Gee, from what I can tell “strong hunch” may have been downgraded to “hunch”. Possibly, 2nd coming has been downgraded to nth Prophet, although I will note the latter encompasses the former.
> 
> Hardly a lie.

No no. See at first he clearly was talking about the kid being Jesus, with capital H’s and everything. Then later he emphasized differently:

> [@](#):
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> I admit fully that I phrased the initial claim (which may be true) with strong controversiality. And he will (if my speculation is borne out) fulfill a role sociologiclaly akin to that of Jesus – please note that soteriologically I’m making no such claim.

I’ll let you look up the meaning of the word “soteriologically” yourself.

Could Poly have changed his mind and not been a liar? Yes he could have, yet that was an option **dalovingdj** outlined and Polycarp clearly didn’t choose that one.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053/39 "2003-12-15T05:14:25Z")

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Hmmm…I’m sure, now. His mother doesn’t like him either.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2003, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-s-a-fucking-liar/219053/40 "2003-12-15T05:19:16Z")

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You’re assuming he _had_ a mother, \*\* galen ubal\*\*.

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