# Polycarp to explain his religious inconsistencies **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 29, 2003, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178 "2003-10-29T04:50:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178/161 "2003-11-02T07:33:02Z")
Context is everything, and maybe you have integrity but it seems that you never bothered to read the rules, **Policarp** was justified to pit you that way, and even tough I an a non-believer I am here to say that I would have done the same. On second thought, here is why now you have no integrity: you were excluding the context where that phrase came from, your effort clearly was to mislead readers into assuming he said that in a different setting. ---
**Author:** ![badchad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@badchad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badchad)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178/162 "2003-11-02T07:34:44Z")
GIGObuster: > [@](#): > > Ahh, I see he was pitting badchad and the quote came from the OP, sorry badchad, with the context of were it came from, I see that Poly had the right to use the F bomb, no wonder you were not “willing” to link to it. I was plenty willing to link it, I remembered it clearly, I just wanted to build up effect. However it demonstrates factually that your doubts… > [@](#): > > frankly I doubt he said that even in the pit were incorrect. > [@](#): > > It is worse than you said: you are in reality a Jerkus Maximuss, a very special kind of jerk; and Yes, even in the pit, admmiting to, and being one, is not kosher. Whatever. BTW, my thread is really getting side tracked. Do you have anything more to say regarding my OP other than that you think I am correct (and I bet you just hate that)? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178/163 "2003-11-02T07:37:44Z")
> [@](#): > > Other people aren’t whetstones for your soul, convenient grist to prove you “correct.” **TVeblen** : So which are they? Whetstones or grist? 😕 I do agree with you, though. When I saw this thread enter the Pit, I knew **badchad** was in for a stiff ride. In fact, I said in one fell swoop, **chad** went from _pregnant_ to _hanging_. Ineffable opponent, indeed. That “fuck you, **badchad** ” cite is an interesting development, I might add. Look at them all scramble to cover **Polycarp** ’s outburst. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178/164 "2003-11-02T07:39:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by badchad \* > \*\*Baker: > > Desmo already stole my thunder and provided the cite. Look it up. Not only does Poly say “fuck you” to me he also calls me an “asshole”. > > Seems you owe me an apology for questioning my integrity. I wager your not man enough to do so. \*\* Try again sweetcheeks. I said YOU couldn’t provide such a cite. Seems you can’t understand English either. And since I never agreed to your so-called deal, I owe you nothing. And I am not “man” enough to do so, even if I could, since I’m _not_ a man. Snort, giggle. ---
**Author:** ![badchad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@badchad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badchad)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178/165 "2003-11-02T07:42:39Z")
GIGObuster > [@](#): > > On second thought, here is why now you have no integrity: you were excluding the context where that phrase came from, your effort clearly was to mislead readers into assuming he said that in a different setting. BULLSHIT GIGO. I said he said those words to me, implying only that they were done in anger. And he did say those words to me. Now I am doubting your integrity for being unable to admit when you were wrong, even when given factual evidence. And again I ask do you have anything more to say regarding my OP other than you think my of Poly are correct. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178/166 "2003-11-02T07:43:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Baker \* > > Try again sweetcheeks. I said YOU couldn’t provide such a cite. Seems you can’t understand English either. And since I never agreed to your so-called deal, I owe you nothing. And I am not “man” enough to do so, even if I could, since I’m _not_ a man. Snort, giggle. Wow. That’s actually pretty weak. I’m surprised. Cite’s good, no matter how you slice it. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178/167 "2003-11-02T07:44:37Z")
I have only to admit that **Poly** was correct in pitting you, now you are just pittiful. I will say it again: you were excluding the context where that phrase came from, your effort clearly was to mislead readers into assuming he said that in a different setting. ---
**Author:** ![badchad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@badchad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badchad)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178/168 "2003-11-02T07:45:14Z")
Baker: > [@](#): > > Try again sweetcheeks. I said YOU couldn’t provide such a cite. Seems you can’t understand English either. And since I never agreed to your so-called deal, I owe you nothing. And I am not “man” enough to do so, even if I could, since I’m not a man. Snort, giggle. Ok, but you are woman enough to admit you are wrong arn’t you? Or do you prefer to display the behavior I have come to expect from liberal Christianity. ---
**Author:** ![badchad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@badchad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badchad)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178/169 "2003-11-02T07:51:11Z")
GIGObuster: > [@](#): > > I will say it again: you were excluding the context where that phrase came from, your effort clearly was to mislead readers into assuming he said that in a different setting. Well now you have been wrong twice, though the latter is more difficult to prove than the earlier part where you were factually shown to be wrong yet are too obsinate to admit it. I think I’ll go to bed now, but before I do I’ll ask one more time if you have anything more to say regarding my OP other than you think my criticisms of Poly are correct. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178/170 "2003-11-02T07:51:42Z")
Nope, not woman enough either, as I have done or said nothing wrong here. And who said I was liberal? Tee-hee, chuckle, you are so funny! ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178/171 "2003-11-02T07:53:08Z")
And **badchad** : Regarding your OP: even the moderators saw it as a personal attack, not a Great Debate; so, if not dense, you are now being obtuse. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178/172 "2003-11-02T08:05:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GIGObuster \* > > **And badchad: Regarding your OP: even the moderators saw it as a personal attack, not a Great Debate…** I call bullshit. What’s that got to do with anything? Also, please note his post count – it’s 244 now – 220 when he started the thread, IIRC. Not exactly an offense to stumble around a bit at this point. Since there’s no real problem, perhaps it’s the subject matter that’s got you so upset? Maybe I should start looking from **badchad** ’s perspective? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178/173 "2003-11-02T08:11:57Z")
And you are really dumb into thinking now that I am denying that Polycarp said that, I said before that I doubt it, no need to reply when evidence is presented to the contrary, I was way past that, you Florida punched anachronism, Your behavior shows me that you are noticing now that you can not answer the fact that you were trying to mislead readers with implying that Poly said that to you unprovoked, and/or with no context. Mr B: :rolleyes: I said that because **badchad** said this: > [@](#): > > BTW, my thread is really getting side tracked. Do you have anything more to say regarding my OP other than that you think I am correct (and I bet you just hate that)? No need to deal with the OP, I am just dealing with a horrid debater. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178/174 "2003-11-02T08:21:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GIGObuster \* [likely posting to **badchad** , due to the anthropomorphic ballot quip] > > And you are really dumb into thinking now that I am denying that Polycarp said that, I said before that I doubt it, no need to reply when evidence is presented to the contrary, I was way past that, you Florida punched anachronism, Your behavior shows me that you are noticing now that you can not answer the fact that you were trying to mislead readers with implying that Poly said that to you unprovoked, and/or with no context. Judges? Can I get a ruling on the word count here? > [@](#): > > No need to deal with the OP, I am just dealing with a horrid debater. What is going on here? First you’re upset his thread’s moved out of Debates to the Pit, then you won’t engage because he’s a bad debater? Very, very odd. You know, you’re actually throwing mud _onto_ **Polycarp** now. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178/175 "2003-11-02T08:23:44Z")
Shhh, **GIGO** , he’s out there, listening, lurking, staying up way past his bedtime, hiding under the covers(figureatively speaking) with the flashlight on so his parents don’t know he’s up so late. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178/176 "2003-11-02T08:27:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr. B \* > \*\*First you’re upset his thread’s moved out of Debates to the Pit, then you won’t engage because he’s a bad debater? Very, very odd. You know, you’re actually throwing mud _onto_ **Polycarp** now. \*\* When did I say that I was upset for the move? 😕 And I am being consistent: I still think it was a personal attack to **Polycarp**. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178/177 "2003-11-02T08:42:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GIGObuster \* > > When did I say that I was upset for the move? 😕 Colloquy. Why did you mention it, then? What did your “revelation” of the thread’s move add to the debate? > [@](#): > > _by Baker_ > > Shhh, GIGO, he’s out there, listening, lurking, staying up way past his bedtime, hiding under the covers(figureatively speaking) with the flashlight on so his parents don’t know he’s up so late. **Baker** : that’s a pretty rotten attack. The “kid” is making you folks look like total fools; if I were **Polycarp** , I’d most ricky-tick jump in here to clear up this mess. You’re making him look bad. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178/178 "2003-11-02T08:48:56Z")
After further review, **Mr B** you are right: the word count, it was an abomination. After reviewing more, what is going on here **Mr. B** , is that nowhere in the thread Polycarp said anything bad to **badchad** , and then he just called **Poly** a numbskull; so, out the window it went any debating consideration for the hostile OP. and I got back in. Trying to mislead readers, by implying that **Poly** said the F thing to him unprovoked, and/or with no context, does not help also. Care to defend badchad for that, **Mr B**? Or was the word count off again? ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178/179 "2003-11-02T08:55:59Z")
**Mr. B** , why do you think I was talking about **badchad**? Narf! ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178/180 "2003-11-02T09:02:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr. B \* > \*\*Colloquy. Why did you mention it, then? What did your “revelation” of the thread’s move add to the debate? > \*\* It only added to my consistent point that this is no longer a debate; especially after he presented his “F” and “N” exhibits. And I already pointed at the words that he wrote, that made me mention that, are you now missing items on purpose? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polycarp-to-explain-his-religious-inconsistencies/210178.md?page=10)