# Poor Tom Cruise! Fired by Paramount! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 23, 2006, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881 "2006-08-23T13:38:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881/41 "2006-08-24T01:44:11Z")
[QUOTE=Malodorous] If I skipped all the movies by weirdos and religious nut-bags, I’d have to take up reading for entertainment. [/QUOTE] I just had a horrible thought… _Cruise-Gibson Entertainment, Inc._ :eek: :eek: :eek: ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881/42 "2006-08-24T02:00:20Z")
[QUOTE=JRDelirious] I just had a horrible thought… _Cruise-Gibson Entertainment, Inc._ :eek: :eek: :eek: [/QUOTE] Those would sure be some interesting religious discussions. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881/43 "2006-08-24T02:42:28Z")
[QUOTE=Eve] Oh, come now–worse than the remake of _Stepford Wives_? [/QUOTE] Much much worse. Stepford was Sunsent Blvd compared to Suspect Zero. I suspect that this has much more to do with Brad Grey than anything else. War of the Worlds came out at the height of the Tom bashing and it did pretty well. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881/44 "2006-08-24T02:43:28Z")
[QUOTE=JRDelirious] _Cruise-Gibson Entertainment, Inc._ [/QUOTE] _Risky Passion_ _Lethal Samurai_ _The Man Without All The Right Moves_ _Rainheart_ _The Year of Living Far and Away_ I smell Oscar! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![AveDementia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc8723/32.png) [@AveDementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AveDementia)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881/45 "2006-08-24T08:17:26Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat] Can someone tell me what his recent behavior is? I hear vague references to being “weird” and “crazy” but I don’t watch the kind of shows or read the kind of news to get any more details than that. [/QUOTE] There have been rumors for years that he’s not quite hetero, but he’s sued the pants off of everyone who hinted at such a thing. Then right after word got out that someone was writing a book that would blow the cover off of his very private life, he suddenly showed up in Rome with Katie Holmes, after she went missing for over two weeks- suddenly they’re “madly in love”. That was the beginning, and since then… oh, man, too much to summorize easily… [This site](http://bumpshack.com/tomcruise.htm) gives the timeline starting with the Rome thing- most recent articles first, so if you scroll all the way down and work your way up it’s a chronological record of his descent into crazy. And [this site](http://www.tomcruiseisnuts.com/) gives some highlights. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881/46 "2006-08-24T09:45:07Z")
Type_s_ of role? Oh, please. IMHO, he’s only been in one type of role his entire career. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881/47 "2006-08-24T10:00:55Z")
[QUOTE=Zebra] And in case you are unfamilar with Suspect Zero, it is one of the worst movies I have ever seen and I have seen plenty of bad movies. [/QUOTE] Wow. I consider this to be a really good movie. I loved it. Ben Kingsley, right? Is that the one I’m thinking of? ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881/48 "2006-08-24T10:03:16Z")
[QUOTE=Clockwork And Candy] Wait-- what’s the difference between the two? [/QUOTE] Stars are flash and glitz…actors are craftsmen. Paris Hilton is a star of sorts…but she ain’t no actress, despite her efforts to convince us of that in _House of Wax._ ---
**Author:** ![Dottygumdrop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Dottygumdrop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dottygumdrop)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881/49 "2006-08-24T10:11:15Z")
[QUOTE=gonzomax] It shows only one thing. His movies are not making the money that his salary commands. The studio would put up with anything if thr gross was right. [/QUOTE] According to [this](http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,,20224588-7485,00.html?from=rss) (see the fourth paragraph of the article), the studio is making bugger-all money from Cruise/Wagner’s films, while Cruise and Wagner are romping it home! But just look at that picture - the guy is old, wrinkled and ugly, not to mention a complete jack-off! ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881/50 "2006-08-24T11:40:29Z")
[QUOTE=Dottygumdrop] According to [this](http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,,20224588-7485,00.html?from=rss) (see the fourth paragraph of the article), the studio is making bugger-all money from Cruise/Wagner’s films, while Cruise and Wagner are romping it home! But just look at that picture - the guy is old, wrinkled and ugly, not to mention a complete jack-off! [/QUOTE] Oh, this is good: > [@wagner](#): > > “Whatever remarks Mr. Redstone would make about Tom Cruise personally or as an actor have no bearing on what this business issue is,” she told Reuters. “There must be another agenda that the studio has in mind to take one of their greatest assets and malign him this way.” Yeah, honey. He isn’t THEIR asset anymore and they are taking out the ballpeen hammer and putting a few dents in him before he hits the street to lower his value to their competition. Between this and the Lohan letter it seems like producers are getting a little tired of movie stars who take all the profits AND treat the rest of the cast and crew like shit. 'Bout time. Hope it continues. ---
**Author:** ![Dijon\_Warlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@Dijon\_Warlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dijon_Warlock)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881/51 "2006-08-24T11:49:12Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] I smell Oscar! 😃 [/QUOTE] Okay, there’s an “Odd Couple” joke, here. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881/52 "2006-08-24T15:47:56Z")
[QUOTE=Kalhoun] Wow. I consider this to be a really good movie. I loved it. Ben Kingsley, right? Is that the one I’m thinking of? [/QUOTE] _Suspect Zero_ is really, really, **really** bad, so you must be thinking of the **other** movie where Ben Kingsley played a serial killer who hunted serial killers and who was tracked down by Aaron Eckhart and Carrie-Anne Moss by psychic means from the director of _Shadow of a Vampire_ titled _Suspect Zero._ Must be. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881/53 "2006-08-24T20:42:15Z")
[QUOTE=Dottygumdrop] According to [this](http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,,20224588-7485,00.html?from=rss) (see the fourth paragraph of the article), the studio is making bugger-all money from Cruise/Wagner’s films, while Cruise and Wagner are romping it home! But just look at that picture - the guy is old, wrinkled and ugly, not to mention a complete jack-off! [/QUOTE] I thought it was going to be a picture of Sumner Redstone. The best thing to come out of this was Jon Stewart: In the interest of full disclosure, Viacom is the parent company of Comedy Central. Also in the interest of full disclosure, Sumner Redstone is my father. Thanks for the show, Dad! > [@Cervaise](#): > > Suspect Zero is really, really, really bad, so you must be thinking of the other movie where Ben Kingsley played a serial killer who hunted serial killers and who was tracked down by Aaron Eckhart and Carrie-Anne Moss by psychic means from the director of Shadow of a Vampire titled Suspect Zero. Must be. Dammit! I had forgotton all about it until now. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881/54 "2006-08-24T20:44:09Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat] Can someone tell me what his recent behavior is? I hear vague references to being “weird” and “crazy” but I don’t watch the kind of shows or read the kind of news to get any more details than that. [/QUOTE] They are trying to blame the failure of M:I:III on his jumping up and down on Oprah’s couch, confronting Matt Lauer about psychotropic drugs, spouting Scientology, etc., rather than on the fact that it wasn’t really very good. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881/55 "2006-08-24T21:35:03Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise] _Suspect Zero_ is really, really, **really** bad, so you must be thinking of the **other** movie where Ben Kingsley played a serial killer who hunted serial killers and who was tracked down by Aaron Eckhart and Carrie-Anne Moss by psychic means from the director of _Shadow of a Vampire_ titled _Suspect Zero._ Must be. 😛 [/QUOTE] Now I’m going to have to watch it again. Damn it! ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881/56 "2006-08-24T21:55:03Z")
[QUOTE=Ethilrist] It would be funny indeed if Tom looked at this and said, “Oh, right, wife, kid, family, career. Got it.” and cleaned up his act, went to another studio and made them eight hundred bajillion dollars worth of movies in the next ten years or so. [/QUOTE] Please don’t encourage the bad actors. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881/57 "2006-08-24T21:57:20Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] Any info on those pictures? [/QUOTE] [Trey Parker and Matt Stone return with 2 live action films: THE ALL-AMERICAN and GIANT MONSTERS ATTACK JAPAN](http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=24246) ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881/58 "2006-08-24T22:13:58Z")
[QUOTE=Kalhoun] Wow. I consider this to be a really good movie. I loved it. Ben Kingsley, right? Is that the one I’m thinking of? [/QUOTE] To each their own, but it sure didn’t make any money at the box office. Neither did Elizabethtown, or Narc, or Ask the Dust. (another Cruise/Wagner production that Paramount released for them) Movies that Tom produces that don’t have him in it, don’t do too well. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881/59 "2006-08-24T22:42:34Z")
[QUOTE=Kalhoun] Wow. I consider this to be a really good movie. I loved it. Ben Kingsley, right? Is that the one I’m thinking of? [/QUOTE] Are you thinking about [Sexy Beast](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0203119/), **Kalhoun**? And here’s a [Washington Post](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/23/AR2006082300354.html) article about this. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881/60 "2006-08-25T00:19:57Z")
[QUOTE=gigi] They are trying to blame the failure of M:I:III on his jumping up and down on Oprah’s couch, confronting Matt Lauer about psychotropic drugs, spouting Scientology, etc., rather than on the fact that it wasn’t really very good. [/QUOTE] I doubt I’ll ever see another Tom Cruise film because I don’t want to support his egocentric, eccentric behavior. So I do believe his behavior was a contributor to the low ratings. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-tom-cruise-fired-by-paramount/369881.md?page=4)