# Poor, ugly Sandra Bullock **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 24, 2000, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106 "2000-10-24T14:33:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Simetra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Simetra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simetra)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106/21 "2000-10-24T17:16:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Estrella \* > \*\* > And if I had a twin that got clear braces while I was stuck with metal ones, I’d beat her silly. > > \*\* Good for you… 😃 My sister beat me silly for getting my braces off before her, and I got them so much later than she did. Mwu Ha ha ha ha ha! Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Estrella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Estrella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estrella)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106/22 "2000-10-24T17:23:42Z")
Thanks. 🙂 BTW, Simetra, I really should tell you (or post in the mistaken ID thread) that I keep reading your name as Sinatra. _I’ve got the world on a string…_ ---
**Author:** ![Simetra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Simetra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simetra)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106/23 "2000-10-24T17:25:27Z")
Is it because of the way I look tonight? ---
**Author:** ![OrcaChow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e47c2d/32.png) [@OrcaChow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OrcaChow)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106/24 "2000-10-24T17:48:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Estrella \* > \*\*Every time the blind date commercial comes on, I sneer at it. The second guy is cute! And I feel so bad for him! \*\* At least he doesn’t get stuck with the duplicitous bitch. Maybe he’ll run into Sandra Bullock… you know, the “before” version: shy, glasses, frumpy sweater. He loses the braces, she loses the glasses and frump, and they turn into the couple we can _all_ hate. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106/25 "2000-10-24T18:00:36Z")
…as if looks matter anyway… \ ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106/26 "2000-10-24T18:34:10Z")
I haven’t seen the trailor in question, but i suspect what we have here is the most annoying type of Holliwood shennaigans: A primise that allows you to critize an institution for being superficial and meaningless and then turns around and has the “victory moment” of that movie being winning according to the terms of that superficial, meaningless institution. It like having your cake and eating it too–you get to both not care if you win, and win. SFW would be a good example of the same sort of thing-- the protagionist gets to be a celebrity without having to loose his cool and want to be a celebrity. THe ultimate adolecent fantasy. What is Bullock doing in a movie like this? Didnt she pay her dues with Speed II? ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106/27 "2000-10-24T19:42:25Z")
on this subject, here’s one for you: Can anyone think of a movie where the TRULY unattractive girl got the guy? There’s a number of movies showing the reverse, most recently “Pay It Forward”, wherein burn victim Spacey scores dishy-if-tacky Helen Hunt. I’d LOVE to see a burn victim FEMALE score Brad Pitt. Better not hold my breath, eh? THAT pisses me off. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106/28 "2000-10-24T19:53:49Z")
Old, old, old, stupid plot device. After having seen so many old black and white movies with the same plot, my sister and I started calling the prop “ugly secretary glasses.” (We’ll now end up with sentences along the lines of “and then Clark Kent pulled off his ugly-secretary-glasses and went to save the world.”) And that girl in the blind-date/invisible braces commercial has the most annoying voice in commercials today. (As well as playing an utterly superficial character). ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106/29 "2000-10-24T19:59:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Simetra \* > \*\*[guy moment] > > Mmmmm… Sandra Bullock > > [/guy moment] > > \*\* [girl moment] Mmmmm… Benjamin Bratt [/girl moment] The one reason I will go see “Miss Congeniality”… In “Dogfight” Lily Taylor gets River Phoenix but she’s not unattractive anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Estrella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Estrella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estrella)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106/30 "2000-10-24T20:11:40Z")
It’s the Ugly Duckling-cum-Cinderella plot device. Yes, it’s tired. But I rented _She’s All That, 10 Things I hate about You, Can’t Buy Me Love_, all those silly makeover-on-the-way-to-self-enlightenment-and-popularity movies. Have you seen _Never Been Kissed_? Same device. I dunno, it’s a tired device but it’s not so bad. I like all the movies I listed. They had their moments and they are cute. They’re no work of art but it’s a nice way to spend a few hours. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106/31 "2000-10-24T20:18:23Z")
> [@](#): > > that’s not Sandra Bullock… that’s Minnie Driver… Wrong movie. You’re thinking of **Beautiful** , _another_ lame-brained film about beauty pageants (directed by Sally “You Like Me!” Field) ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106/32 "2000-10-24T20:19:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Estrella \* > \*\*I dunno, it’s a tired device but it’s not so bad. \*\* My first thought on seeing that sentence is that’s like saying Stevie Wonder is a bit near-sighted. ---
**Author:** ![Estrella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Estrella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estrella)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106/33 "2000-10-24T20:32:13Z")
_smirk_ Yeah, yeah, I hear ya, Crunchy Frog. The thing with me and movies in particular, pop culture in general is: I’m pretty laid back. If the movie’s a think piece, then I’m more inclined to trash it, analyze it, try to catch flubs and whatnot. But if it’s a teeny-bopper movie, I take them in stride. And I love those teeny-bopper high school movies, they just crack me up. So, you know, _shrug_. I recognize they are fluffy and recycled ideas but…I like them. That said, I doubt I will see the Sandra Bullock movie or the Minne Driver one. Drew Barrymore, on the other hand, I can’t get enough of. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106/34 "2000-10-24T21:13:39Z")
Oh, come on, give Sandra Bullock a break. Don’t you realize that all the popular girls are talking behind her back: “Oh, that’s the girl that was in Speed II. Ewwwwwww!” ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106/35 "2000-10-24T21:37:24Z")
anyone remember “Frankie and Johnnie”, wherein some sweat and a grumpy expression are supposed to make us believe that Michelle Pfeiffer is unattractive?!?!?!?!??!?!?!? Do you know who played the role on Broadway? Kathy Bates!! Hollywood blows. ---
**Author:** ![Narile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Narile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Narile)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106/36 "2000-10-24T21:47:23Z")
::: Narile silently hands Estrella a sledgehammer so she can go Kathy Bates on the knees of the people whom make those commercials and such movies ::: ---
**Author:** ![lesa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/34f0e0/32.png) [@lesa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lesa)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106/37 "2000-10-24T22:12:08Z")
Has anyone noticed in those blind date commericals mentioned earlier, that the people with clear braces ALREADY have perfectly straight teeth! And it’s not like the braces have fixed them, because they just got them and their identical twin hasn’t seen them yet. ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106/38 "2000-10-24T23:05:51Z")
So why has no one mentioned “The Truth about Cats and Dogs” yet? Janeane Garofalo can’t find love because she’s so unattractive. I want to find the casting director and hit them upside the head with a two-by-four. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![SwimmingRiddles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SwimmingRiddles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwimmingRiddles)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106/39 "2000-10-24T23:26:51Z")
Yea. All of those movies piss me off. Of course,the fact of the matter is that if my hair is scraggly, I’m in a tshirt and jeans, with the glasses on, I can walk around invisibly. If I wear a skirt, my hoochie boots, makeup and do my hair, suddenly store clerks flirt with me, strangers strike up conversations, I get free sandwiches 🙂 , I notice glances, and, in general, my invisibility ceases to be. So while the concept is irrational and stupid, there is some truth to it. What IS horrid is the concept that these women look ugly. They don’t look ugly, at thier absolute worst, they look average. And that’s the bottom of the pre-makeover barrell. But when you put up the image of THAT as ugly, imagine what the average looking 14 year old feels about herself. Because let’s face it, aside from our friend Kelli the 8th Grade bombshell, NO ONE looks good at 14. So she grows into womanhood thinking she’s ugly. ---
**Author:** ![deb2world](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@deb2world](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deb2world)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2000, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106/40 "2000-10-25T00:05:31Z")
Ok you guys are analyzing a chick flick. Since reading this thread I now have plans to go see this when it comes out. Leave the men at home, take an afternoon off work and have a girls time at the movies. Should be a fun time. A little fluff is not bad. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poor-ugly-sandra-bullock/38106.md?page=3)