# Poorly-aged films that could use a "woke" (for lack of a better choice of words) remake **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [November 18, 2025, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poorly-aged-films-that-could-use-a-woke-for-lack-of-a-better-choice-of-words-remake/1024941 "2025-11-18T00:49:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poorly-aged-films-that-could-use-a-woke-for-lack-of-a-better-choice-of-words-remake/1024941/121 "2025-11-20T18:09:22Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > You dont agree that some women in the middle of the 20th century were taught to act “hard to get”? Of course that is mostly gone now, and good riddance, but there’s a lot of weird stuff from the fairly recent past. Sorry for the late reply. Puppy takes up a lot of time. No. No I don’t agree. My mother, who was a teen in the 50’s, was taught not to be “easy” as she wouldn’t want to be perceived as a girl who was “putting out.” But that is totally different, at least in my mind, from “playing hard to get.” The latter connotes ideas that in the past few decades are circulating among incels\* that girls are “prick teasers,” “playing hard to get,” “stringing the friendzoned guy along,” while waiting for a Chad (is that still a trope/term?) \*n.b. I am not calling DrD an incel, just that the phrase has some connotations that are problematic. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poorly-aged-films-that-could-use-a-woke-for-lack-of-a-better-choice-of-words-remake/1024941/122 "2025-11-20T18:12:40Z")
New post because the YouTube enshittification of Disgust. A lot of these movies has something in common. And while I think that we have to judge them in context of their time,\* I do think this tribute is great: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/AeduDexHt28/maxresdefault.jpg "John Hughes Tribute | Reunited Apart") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeduDexHt28) \*Still not always favorably, but still. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poorly-aged-films-that-could-use-a-woke-for-lack-of-a-better-choice-of-words-remake/1024941/123 "2025-11-20T18:15:16Z")
> [@Charlie\_Tan](#): > > My mother, who was a teen in the 50’s, was taught not to be “easy” as she wouldn’t want to be perceived as a girl who was “putting out.” But that is totally different, at least in my mind, from “playing hard to get.” Well, a woman who’ll kiss on the very first date Is usually a hussy And a woman who’ll kiss on the second time out Is anything but fussy But a woman who’ll wait till the third time around Head in the clouds, feet on the ground She’s the girl you’re glad you found She’s your shipoopi! ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poorly-aged-films-that-could-use-a-woke-for-lack-of-a-better-choice-of-words-remake/1024941/124 "2025-11-20T18:21:15Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > The biggest problem with _Song of the South_ (same as with _Gone With the Wind_) is it shows slaves as happy in their environment; kind of a passive racism. An interesting film could be made contrasting the happy ZipADeeDooDah songs with the family worked to exhaustion and whipped, showing “happiness” in the face of oppression. But that’s not a kid’s film anymore. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poorly-aged-films-that-could-use-a-woke-for-lack-of-a-better-choice-of-words-remake/1024941/125 "2025-11-20T18:26:26Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > The biggest problem with _Song of the South_ (same as with _Gone With the Wind_) is it shows slaves as happy in their environment; kind of a passive racism. Technically, the story was set in the post-war South, but ‘ll bet a lot f people missed that. I’ve got a bootleg copy of _Song of the South_. Even with the knowledge that it’s not supposed to be racist, it’s kind of cringe-y. If you threw away the framing story you’d have no problem with the cartoons, except for what I’ll say below. But they couldn’t have done that – cartoons are expensive and time-consuming to make, and in the 1940s even Disney made a lot of not-completely-animated films (like _The Reluctant Dragon_) to allow them to get movies out in a hurry. _Song of the South_ needs its non-cartoon “filler” to help make ends meet. People of all races can identify with Funny Animated Animals (which is why things like the Chlldren’s Apperception Test use pictures of animals) – unless you deliberately give them racial features of some sort. James Baskett (who played Uncle Remus) also provided the voice for Br’er Fox (and from Br’er Rabbit in one segment). The parts of Br’er Rabbit elsewhere, and of Br’er Bear and Br’er Frog were voiced by black actors, too. Which seems altogether appropriate for characters in black folktales. But, to tell the truth, it wasn’t at all obvious to me what race the voice actors were. They could’ve been any race. One feature that might be seen as racist is the “Tar Baby” sequence. A lot of people assume that the “tar baby” was code for someone of African ancestry. But the original story, like many of the Uncle Remus tales, can be trac ed back to an African original in which the Rabbit hero takes offense at the lack of response from a figure made by his enemies from a calabash, and he gets caught by the sticky insides of the squash. It’s the stickiness that characterizes the Tar Baby, and Joel Chandler Harris’ informants , lacking an appropriately stick fruit, made the trapping figure out of sticky tar instead. But you’re not going to change people’s minds with arguments like this, that have a whiff of sophistry. The Tar Baby’s black and therefore irredeemably racist, and there’s no point in trying to rescue it. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poorly-aged-films-that-could-use-a-woke-for-lack-of-a-better-choice-of-words-remake/1024941/126 "2025-11-20T18:31:34Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > The parts of Br’er Rabbit elsewhere, and of Br’er Bear and Br’er Frog were voiced by black actors, too. IIRC, the characters pronounce it “brare,” when it was actually pronounced “bro” or “bruh” (being short for “brother”). ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poorly-aged-films-that-could-use-a-woke-for-lack-of-a-better-choice-of-words-remake/1024941/127 "2025-11-20T18:35:05Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > The first one that sprang to mind is “The Fighting Seabees” with John Wayne. He has a line in there that includes “Tojo’s bugeyed monkeys” (referring to Japanese soldiers). Also, the Asian actors in it have buck-toothed prosthetics and thick glasses. Of course, this was a war movie, and those sort of memes were everywhere in that time. Most, like this one, don’t need a remake, as they really weren’t worth watching the first time around. _Seabees_ was ostensibly about the formation of the Navy’s Construction Battalions. A remake of sorts could work with better source material; too bad Stephen Ambrose isn’t around to write it. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poorly-aged-films-that-could-use-a-woke-for-lack-of-a-better-choice-of-words-remake/1024941/128 "2025-11-20T18:39:22Z")
Actually, from the description in Wikipedia, _Song of the South_ COULD have been a very interesting and non-racist film: > Disney hired African-American performer and writer [Clarence Muse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Muse "Clarence Muse") to be consulted on the screenplay, but Muse quit when Reymond ignored Muse’s suggestions to portray African-American characters in a way that would be perceived as being dignified and more than Southern stereotypes.[[11]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_the_South#cite_note-FOOTNOTEKorkis201227%E2%80%9334-11) Muse subsequently wrote letters to the editors of black publications to criticize the depiction of African-Americans in Reymond’s script. Disney claimed that Muse attacked the film because Disney did not choose Muse to play the part of Uncle Remus, which Muse had lobbied for.[[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_the_South#cite_note-FOOTNOTEKorkis201267%E2%80%9374-12) > [Maurice Rapf](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Rapf "Maurice Rapf"), who had been writing live-action features at the time, was asked by [Walt Disney Productions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walt_Disney_Company "The Walt Disney Company") to work with Reymond and co-writer Callum Webb to turn the treatment into a shootable screenplay.[[14]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_the_South#cite_note-Cohen-14) According to [Neal Gabler](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_Gabler "Neal Gabler"), one of the reasons Disney had hired Rapf to work with Reymond was to temper what Disney feared would be Reymond’s “white Southern slant”.[[15]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_the_South#cite_note-FOOTNOTEGabler2006434-15) … > Rapf saw the animal stories as metaphors for slave resistance, and intended to portray Br’er Rabbit as a smaller, less powerful Black man, and in place of the oppressive whites would be Br’er Fox, Br’er Bear and the deleted character Br’er Coon. Now THAT would’ve been something. But they chose not to go that route. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poorly-aged-films-that-could-use-a-woke-for-lack-of-a-better-choice-of-words-remake/1024941/129 "2025-11-20T18:45:32Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > _Seabees_ was ostensibly about the formation of the Navy’s Construction Battalions. A remake of sorts could work with better source material; too bad Stephen Ambrose isn’t around to write it. The story of the formation of the Seabees is fairly mundane. Admiral Moreell saw a need and acted on it, creating a force that could both do construction and defend what they built (hence the motto “We Build, We Fight”). Not much movie fodder there, so I can see why Hollywood would try to beef it up a bit with some gratuitous scenes. They’ve done some remarkable things over the decades, and I’m proud to have been a part of some of them, but I don’t see a movie coming out of it. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poorly-aged-films-that-could-use-a-woke-for-lack-of-a-better-choice-of-words-remake/1024941/130 "2025-11-20T18:47:50Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > Well, a woman who’ll kiss on the very first date > Is usually a hussy > And a woman who’ll kiss on the second time out > Is anything but fussy > > But a woman who’ll wait till the third time around > Head in the clouds, feet on the ground > She’s the girl you’re glad you found > She’s your shipoopi! No bright-eyed, blushing, breathless baby-doll baby No sir, that kinda child ties knots no sailor ever knew I prefer to take a chance on a more adult romance No dewy young miss who keeps resisting All the time she keeps insisting No bright-eyed, wholesome innocent female, no sir Why, she’s the fisherman, I’m the fish you see? Plop I flinch, I shy, when the lass with the delicate air walks by I smile, I grin, when the gal with a touch of sin walks in [I hope, and I pray, for a Hester to win just one more “A”](https://genius.com/18532345/Robert-preston-the-sadder-but-wiser-girl-for-me/I-hope-and-i-pray-for-a-hester-to-win-just-one-more-a) The sadder-but-wiser girl’s the girl for me The sadder-but-wiser girl for me ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poorly-aged-films-that-could-use-a-woke-for-lack-of-a-better-choice-of-words-remake/1024941/131 "2025-11-20T19:20:12Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > The sadder-but-wiser girl’s the girl for me > The sadder-but-wiser girl for me Am I the only one as a kid who sang that as “The sadder Budweiser girl…”? (not a mondegreen 'cause we knew the real words) ---
**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poorly-aged-films-that-could-use-a-woke-for-lack-of-a-better-choice-of-words-remake/1024941/132 "2025-11-20T20:27:27Z")
The John Wayne Conqueror stuff was debunked, they actually looked at the cancer rates among the cast and crew and it was perfectly within the norm of cancer rates of the general public at large. It doesn’t help the entire claim was based on an unresearched aside from People magazine iirc ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poorly-aged-films-that-could-use-a-woke-for-lack-of-a-better-choice-of-words-remake/1024941/133 "2025-11-20T21:04:15Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > By that criteria this OP becomes redundant since it’s about movies that were acceptable when they were made. Were they war propaganda? Do you accept that the Nazis were so evil that extraordinary measures against them were acceptable? > [@X.L.Lent](#): > > After reading everybody’s comments about all of the above films I started to wonder if it would be possible to “fix” D. W. Griffith’s _Birth of the Nation._ I can’t even begin to imagine how that could be done. A shredder will do it nicely. > [@Sitnam](#): > > “John Wayne played Genghis Khan in the 1956 film [The Conqueror](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=a660b44055a2f0e3&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS878US878&sxsrf=AE3TifO0OPtqgWYBokzw7E-tCtQLufmNwg%3A1763654231207&q=The+Conqueror&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjru9T_i4GRAxWy5ckDHfnnMfcQxccNegQIIhAB&mstk=AUtExfCgFai9WjRwUrwTXl87XevJw5JVDM7xLNOrz0ngvdJkVOcMDJqgm2U70YhyhNqwLu29Tyb95hVHx_fXuZeAnCB6c_1Cuxa-nKkkI2OU06W1Z03TmU0_gFJy0Yw2tW8Rg50hFuPmzK2uYnFSxXLdqT8OATAlDK85eDboTGJ1ADFrc3LyHTZQTctU42S42ADfaRY82cyVoYnnTR7OzxGphfuxnXesLMS-jg2Y_G8wHZ9pDL-k17FdEe-xrfjX0zoyVuGQGc4pZf3LSqKT80MyeWgTONNYQfWeuMhBwdzhMS0PylMtLQQ8mQaGQ5FP6Z6sYzpjY-VD_XZ3zoZrdIXGAkphYAgFJEUeZehrWYWD_JcIbK8nM53GwZE1kO1Z55-KIyY3hER9oJkEFF1q6qwInISazxOjhwxSy5cRwVOp4CX9VEN09DH073ddjHVAONkY0kEGhdjjvxJB53TW7bUG7ueHeyLP-DPSR9Jo54NvuQ&csui=3). This casting was widely considered a misstep, I won a prize for “Worst John Wayne impersonation” with my _“That tartar woman fires my blood, uhhuh”._ > [@Odesio](#): > > When I worked at the museum, one of my coworkers thought it was appropriate to show some of those WWII propaganda cartoons produced by Warner Brothers and Disney to a group of second and third graders. No, no no. 12th graders or college students studying WW2 or War propaganda- sure. Not kids. > [@Coriolanus](#): > > Native Americans were rarely cast as Indians. You likely won’t find any on F-troop (TV show). The “Hekawi” (they wouldnt let them use “Fugawi”) were played somewhat by Jewish actors as the joke- > **[F Troop](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_Troop)** > > F Troop is a satirical American television Western sitcom about U.S. soldiers and American Indians in the Wild West during the 1860s. The series originally aired for two seasons on ABC. It debuted in the United States on September 14, 1965, and concluded its run on April 6, 1967, with a total of 65 episodes. The first season of 34 episodes was broadcast in black-and-white and the second season was in color. > The series relied heavily on character-based humor, verbal and visual gags, slapstick,... _As a sly jest based on the myth that Native Americans are the 13th tribe of [Israel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel "Israel"), many of the Hekawi Indians were played by veteran [Yiddish](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish "Yiddish") comedians using classic Yiddish [shtick](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shtick "Shtick"). The regular Indian characters (none of whom were played by Native American actors) include:_ > [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > On top of that, doing this movie probably lead to the cancer that finally killed him, in a region (Nevada or Arizona? I don’t quite remember) that had been heavily contaminated by US nuclear bomb testing. His 5-7 pack a day (no really) likely didnt help. > [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > Yes, the cartoon I mentioned - Paws of Fury: The Legend of Hank. So much a remake that Richard Pryor got a writing credit 17 years after he died. I see that, but a “remake”? More of a tribute, IMHO. > [@JohnGalt](#): > > Another one in this line of thinking: _Song of the South_. I only know it from clips of the songs, like Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah and the old ride at Disneyland. Are the base stories too rascist to show today, or was it just a misstep in casting? Some issue, yes but not racist, read _Whose Afraid of Song of the South_ by Jim Korkis. > [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > The biggest problem with _Song of the South_ (same as with _Gone With the Wind_) is it shows slaves as happy in their environment; kind of a passive racism. No slaves, since the film was set in the reconstruction period, after the civil war and the 13th amendment. > [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > _Birth of a Nation_ is more problematic because it shows the Klan as heroic. At the time, I’m sure many people were on their side (possibly including President Wilson); now it’s seen as EXTREMELY racist. Yes, very racist and so was Wilson. A terrible president who was racist and got us into WW1. > [@Charlie\_Tan](#): > > The latter connotes ideas that in the past few decades “Last few decades”? I am talking about the 1930s and 1950s. Yes, the incels are idiots, we agree. The period of some of these films and the time when that was taught- was well before they were born. > [@JohnGalt](#): > > An interesting film could be made contrasting the happy ZipADeeDooDah songs with the family worked to exhaustion and whipped, The film was set AFTER the Civil war AFTER slavery. > [@CalMeacham](#): > > Technically, the story was set in the post-war South, but ‘ll bet a lot f people missed that. > > I’ve got a bootleg copy of _Song of the South_. Even with the knowledge that it’s not supposed to be racist, it’s kind of cringe-y. Right. I can buy a little cringy, after all - it was made in 1946. > [@Asuka](#): > > The John Wayne Conqueror stuff was debunked, they actually looked at the cancer rates among the cast and crew and it was perfectly within the norm of cancer rates of the general public at large. Fake shit from articles that get made into memes are hard to kill. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poorly-aged-films-that-could-use-a-woke-for-lack-of-a-better-choice-of-words-remake/1024941/134 "2025-11-20T22:09:32Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > As a sly jest based on the myth that Native Americans are the 13th tribe of [Israel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel), many of the Hekawi Indians were played by veteran [Yiddish](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish) comedians using classic Yiddish [shtick](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shtick). Golly. It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it, yet I recalled them using “We smokum peace pipe” type talk, _ya da, ya da_ I was trying to explain to my wife, how in Breaking Bad, “Saul Goodman” tells Walter White something like people wouldn’t hire a lawyer named “Jimmy McGill”, they’d want a “member of the tribe” which I think is supposedly the 12th. And in “Better Call Saul” they kind of retconned the origin of the name to “[i]t’s all good, man”. ETA: At first I thought “Fugawi” was some kind of curse word, which is a sort of way it is. I’m surprised the censors, as it took me a minute or two, got the joke: > **“We’re the Fugawi!”** ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poorly-aged-films-that-could-use-a-woke-for-lack-of-a-better-choice-of-words-remake/1024941/135 "2025-11-20T22:46:32Z")
BBC four is showing a couple Doris Day films. “Pillow Talk” which I only caught the end of, and “Lover Come Back” with Rock Hudson. 1961. They are rival Madison Avenue advertising executives, and in the first act he “impresses” the owner/CEO of some company who wants to buy a product that doesn’t exist. Someone (Tony Randall?) says whoever gets the campaign is whoever shows the “best can” CUT TO DANCING GIRLS showing their “cans”. Rock has done his research, as his grandfather and this CEO, as it “just happened”, were both in the same outfit from Richmond in the Civil War - the CEO’s grandfather being a general and Rock’s grandfather both perishing in this conflict, as the CEO is getting hammered on bourbon. Rock winks at the conductor and they play that “look away, dixieland” song, both rise with the CEO saying “they’re playing our song”, extolling the “Yankees” to do so. One of the girls opens her blouse and her bra/bodice is the stars & bars. Next scene, one of the dancing girls is shown being smuggled into the CEO’s room in a double bass case. Like wearing an onion on your belt, it was the style at the time. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poorly-aged-films-that-could-use-a-woke-for-lack-of-a-better-choice-of-words-remake/1024941/136 "2025-11-20T23:15:23Z")
Okay, too late to edit. The product looks like an Eggo about the size of an Eisenhower dollar coin. Apparently it’s “exactly what America needs, a good ten cent triple-martini!” And one of its effects, seemingly more than alcohol alone, is making men extra lecherous towards women. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poorly-aged-films-that-could-use-a-woke-for-lack-of-a-better-choice-of-words-remake/1024941/137 "2025-11-20T23:36:15Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Keanu Reeves in **Little Buddha**. I like Keanu as a person and often as an actor, but casting him as Siddhartha Gautama was just weird. That was the director Bernardo Bertolucci being aesthetically entranced by Keanu’s beatific smile and deciding he _had_ to use this face. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poorly-aged-films-that-could-use-a-woke-for-lack-of-a-better-choice-of-words-remake/1024941/138 "2025-11-20T23:53:11Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > As a sly jest based on the myth that Native Americans are the 13th tribe of [Israel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel), many of the Hekawi Indians were played by veteran [Yiddish](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish) comedians using classic Yiddish [shtick](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shtick). Probably why the cartoon _Flukey Luke_ had its American Indian sidekick speaking with a stage Irish accent. Not as an implication of the Irish being a tribe of Israel, but as a riff on the Hekawi shtick, only altered to a different ethnic stereotype. Sonny and Cher liked unexpected ethnic juxtapositions on their ‘70s TV show for the deliberately ironic kitsch value of stereotype pastiche. The Seven Samurai as a musical sung to “Irish” melodies. How will you know the Samurai? By their war cry “Tora tora tora.” They come on and sing to the tune of “Too Ra Loo Ra Loo Ral”: ”Tora tora tora, We’re the Seven Samurai” ---
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> [@Coriolanus](#): > > Golly. It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it, yet I recalled them using “We smokum peace pipe” type talk, _ya da, ya da_ Its been forever since I saw it. As a little kid it was one of my favorite afternoon reruns. I seem to recall the main Hekawi characters spoke perfectly good English. They were basically conmen so they may have sprung out the broken English for effect at times. ---
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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > The reason you can’t make _Revenge of the Nerds_ today is because nerds are no longer an underclass. Make the nerds trans or immigrants and it might actually make sense today. Revenge of the Juggalos [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poorly-aged-films-that-could-use-a-woke-for-lack-of-a-better-choice-of-words-remake/1024941.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poorly-aged-films-that-could-use-a-woke-for-lack-of-a-better-choice-of-words-remake/1024941.md?page=8)