# Pop Music

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pop-music/165724>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 1, 2003, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pop-music/165724 "2003-04-01T15:52:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pop-music/165724/61 "2003-04-03T11:54:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by GMRyujin \*  
> Until, yosemite, nostalgia for all those crappy bands takes over, and they’re all hip and “retro” again…

Uh yeah. And how many of them are really remembered, even in a nostalgic sense? A few, a small percentage. I like the “one hit wonders” as much as the next person (well, not really, just once in a while does one strike my fancy) but I don’t delude myself into thinking that the majority of them will be around for the long haul. Not everyone can be the Beatles, you know.

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**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pop-music/165724/62 "2003-04-03T14:02:01Z")

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…and rock music… more like _cock_ music 'cause it can totally suck mine… and showtunes… they should just call them _blow_tunes… and celtic traditional… why not… umm… _smell_-tic… _derisible_… 'cause it totally smells…

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**Author:** ![Vixenation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/278dde/32.png) [@Vixenation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vixenation)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pop-music/165724/63 "2003-04-03T14:23:24Z")

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**kplmonkeypants** :

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> -evergreen terrace  
> -hopesfall  
> -atreyu  
> -klank  
> -from autumn to ashes  
> -bane  
> -ensign  
> -converge  
> -dog fashion disco  
> -30 seconds to mars
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> - and other bands like them

I’ve heard of most of them. And my friend happens to know the lead singer of From Autumn To Ashes, who happens to love all genres of music, and probably wouldn’t consider it cool to single one out just because it’s “mainstream” or “always on the radio”.

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**Author:** ![Vixenation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/278dde/32.png) [@Vixenation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vixenation)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pop-music/165724/64 "2003-04-03T14:26:05Z")

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And as an aside, why would you stop listening to a band you loved just because it became mainstream? Are you really that concerned with your “hardcore punk” image? Since when does going mainstream make a band a sell-out? It just means more people have found out about them and are enjoying their music. Anyone who stops liking a band due to this and calls anyone who gets into it late in the game a poser is a Grade A cockmeat fool.

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**Author:** ![Vixenation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/278dde/32.png) [@Vixenation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vixenation)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pop-music/165724/65 "2003-04-03T14:28:22Z")

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P.S. Anyone who only starts liking a band because it’s _de rigeur_ to do so at the moment is also a fool.

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**Author:** ![Tanaqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Tanaqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaqui)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pop-music/165724/66 "2003-04-03T18:32:22Z")

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> [@](#):
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> -evergreen terrace  
> -hopesfall  
> -atreyu  
> -klank  
> -from autumn to ashes  
> -bane  
> -ensign  
> -converge  
> -dog fashion disco  
> -30 seconds to mars
> 
> - and other bands like them

I’ve heard of most of them too, just for the record. Lest anyone misinterpret my earlier comment, I wasn’t trying to start a “more hardcore than thou” type thing. There’s nothing wrong with liking mainstream bands; I just thought it ironic that someone insulting pop music would have a quote from a band that most peope consider a pop band in their signature.

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> And as an aside, why would you stop listening to a band you loved just because it became mainstream? Are you really that concerned with your “hardcore punk” image? Since when does going mainstream make a band a sell-out? It just means more people have found out about them and are enjoying their music. Anyone who stops liking a band due to this and calls anyone who gets into it late in the game a poser is a Grade A cockmeat fool.

Amen! No matter how many times people say this, it always needs to be said a few more.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pop-music/165724/67 "2003-04-03T19:06:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Vixenation \*  
> \*\*And as an aside, why would you stop listening to a band you loved just because it became mainstream? Are you really that concerned with your “hardcore punk” image? Since when does going mainstream make a band a sell-out? It just means more people have found out about them and are enjoying their music. Anyone who stops liking a band due to this and calls anyone who gets into it late in the game a poser is a Grade A cockmeat fool. \*\*

Given an infinite amount of time, every single band will sell out.

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**Author:** ![Vixenation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/278dde/32.png) [@Vixenation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vixenation)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pop-music/165724/68 "2003-04-03T20:29:46Z")

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**Lord Ashtar** :

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> Given an infinite amount of time, every single band will sell out.

This is generally true, but a popular band does not necessarily equal a sellout band.

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**Author:** ![kplmonkeypants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d07c76/32.png) [@kplmonkeypants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kplmonkeypants)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2003, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pop-music/165724/69 "2003-04-03T20:33:15Z")

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I never said I stopped liking dashboard confessional I just found it completely retarded how they started liking them as soon as they were on the radio…

peace out,  
-Kiel-

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**Author:** ![bong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@bong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bong)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pop-music/165724/70 "2003-04-04T01:37:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by mouthbreather \*  
> \*\*Isn’t Klank some Christian Marilyn Manson ripoff? \*\*

😃

A Christian Marylin Manson Ripoff.

What is the world coming to? I mean, if Marylin Manson thinks it’s the antichrist, why would there be a Christian version?

And more importantly, why would one choose to emulate someone who would be the fisherman’s friend spokesman if his voice wasn’t so FRIGGIN GODAWFUL!?

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**Author:** ![bjohn13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@bjohn13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bjohn13)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pop-music/165724/71 "2003-04-04T02:42:58Z")

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In my book, there is no such thing as a “sellout musician”. Any person who has put the countless hours into learning how to hone his craft deserves to do anything he damn well pleases with it.

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**Author:** ![gex\_gex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pop-music/165724/72 "2003-04-04T16:13:55Z")

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**bjohn13** : you’ve never heard of moby, then?

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