# Pope John Paul II has died.

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 1, 2005, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pope-john-paul-ii-has-died/297273 "2005-04-01T18:34:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pope-john-paul-ii-has-died/297273/1 "2005-04-01T18:34:41Z")

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According to Italian news reports.

developing…

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pope-john-paul-ii-has-died/297273/2 "2005-04-01T18:36:59Z")

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Yahoo had an article this morning titled: **Pope in grave condition**.

I guess he is now.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pope-john-paul-ii-has-died/297273/3 "2005-04-01T18:37:49Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Yahoo had an article this morning titled: **Pope in grave condition**.
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> I guess he is now.

I guess you can eliminate the last word in that headline.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pope-john-paul-ii-has-died/297273/4 "2005-04-01T18:39:48Z")

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It’s probably true, but every site I have looked at says that this report is not confirmed.

If it is, rescat in pace, JPII.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pope-john-paul-ii-has-died/297273/5 "2005-04-01T18:39:50Z")

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Right now it says ‘Pope reportedly dead’ and it hasn’t been confirmed by the vatican.

What is weird is my mom said that she had a feeling that right after Schiavo died that the pope would die too. This was back when he was ‘just’ suffering from pneumonia and had a tube in his neck.

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pope-john-paul-ii-has-died/297273/6 "2005-04-01T18:40:57Z")

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> [@BrotherCadfael](#):
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> It’s probably true, but every site I have looked at says that this report is not confirmed.
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> If it is, rescat in pace, JPII.

It must be, 'cuz The Drudge Report says so.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pope-john-paul-ii-has-died/297273/7 "2005-04-01T18:41:14Z")

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MSNBC is reporting that he has “lost consciousness.”

ABC is saying that he is “running out of steam” while Fox is reporting that he’s died.

I’m not a Catholic, but I wish him well on his journey. He worked long at a hard job.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pope-john-paul-ii-has-died/297273/8 "2005-04-01T18:42:11Z")

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My sympathies to Catholics everywhere and indeed anyone that admired him, and there were more than a few.

I’d heard on the news this morning that he was aware of his situation and very serene in his demeanor. Interesting to consider what his thoughts must have been.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pope-john-paul-ii-has-died/297273/9 "2005-04-01T18:42:14Z")

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[CNN.com](http://CNN.com): [Vatican: Pope’s condition ‘has worsened’](http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/04/01/pope1/index.html)

Ya think?

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pope-john-paul-ii-has-died/297273/10 "2005-04-01T18:44:34Z")

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Now I have “Maxwell’s Silver Hammer” running through my head.

I’m sorry. Everything I’ve read about John Paul II indicates he was a good man. RIP.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pope-john-paul-ii-has-died/297273/11 "2005-04-01T18:45:10Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> I guess you can eliminate the last word in that headline.

Give it a few more days. The body is still warm.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pope-john-paul-ii-has-died/297273/12 "2005-04-01T18:46:15Z")

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Geez. I’ve been checking the Beeb, the Ceeb, Yahoo, CNN, everywhere for updates…

What will happen next if the Pope dies?

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pope-john-paul-ii-has-died/297273/13 "2005-04-01T18:48:15Z")

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My Mom is 83 and in poor health and has had some horrible setbacks lately—so when the Pope had a tracheotomy and a nasal-gastric tube (awful!) and a bladder infection, I felt badly for him, _despite_ all the horrible things he has said about me, my family and my friends for the past 25 years.

Did he have any family or friends around him? I mean, I know he didn’t have a wife and kids (though Popes in the past _have_ . . .), but nieces or nephews or friends, or was he entirely surrounded by employees and syncophants?

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pope-john-paul-ii-has-died/297273/14 "2005-04-01T18:49:08Z")

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> [@Kythereia](#):
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> Geez. I’ve been checking the Beeb, the Ceeb, Yahoo, CNN, everywhere for updates…
> 
> What will happen next if the Pope dies?

Next will be a state funeral, followed by the college of Cardinals meeting in a marathon closed door session that doesn’t break until a new Pope is selected.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pope-john-paul-ii-has-died/297273/15 "2005-04-01T18:49:51Z")

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> [@Kythereia](#):
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> Geez. What will happen next if the Pope dies?

Get a new pope?

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pope-john-paul-ii-has-died/297273/16 "2005-04-01T18:49:48Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> Interesting to consider what his thoughts must have been.

I’d like to think:

a) We’ve got Ferrari, Lambourghini and Mazaratti, but what did they stick me with? The damned Pope Mobile!

b) Finally, no more people screaming in my windows while I’m trying to sleep.

c) Holy crap! What if the Jews were right?!

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**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pope-john-paul-ii-has-died/297273/17 "2005-04-01T18:50:04Z")

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As of right now he has not been declared dead by the vatican. One source now says the story of his death was erronious. This reminds me of Arraft’s death in that so many agencies kept prematurely declaring him dead to get the scoop.

Still it looks like he may not make it through the day. I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t officially announce it with in the hour. My condolences to our Catholic friends.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pope-john-paul-ii-has-died/297273/18 "2005-04-01T18:50:23Z")

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According to the reporter on CNN, the Pope is showing no signs of brain activity on an EEG.

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**Author:** ![Nightwatch\_Trailer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9dc877/32.png) [@Nightwatch\_Trailer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightwatch_Trailer)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pope-john-paul-ii-has-died/297273/19 "2005-04-01T18:50:24Z")

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> [@Kythereia](#):
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> Geez. I’ve been checking the Beeb, the Ceeb, Yahoo, CNN, everywhere for updates…
> 
> What will happen next if the Pope dies?

[http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=1737](http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=1737)

As a Catholic, I’m certainly sorry to see him go, but if the reports are true, I’m glad his suffering is over.

Rest in peace.

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**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2005, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pope-john-paul-ii-has-died/297273/20 "2005-04-01T18:51:07Z")

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I cum Deus (pron: ee coom day-oos), go with God.

Yes I know it looks dirty, but it isn’t.

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