# Popularity of defunct team uniforms

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** baseball-mlb\
**Created:** [February 4, 2021, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/popularity-of-defunct-team-uniforms/932196 "2021-02-04T12:55:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![racer72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/racer72/32/3075_2.png) [@racer72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racer72)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2021, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/popularity-of-defunct-team-uniforms/932196/41 "2021-02-10T20:56:50Z")

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Seattle Super Sonics items are still available in the Seattle area and gear can be seen quite often in Pugetopolis. There was some rumbling a few months ago about the NBA adding another team in the near future. Probably another kick to the nuts for Sonics fans.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/popularity-of-defunct-team-uniforms/932196/42 "2021-02-11T00:01:48Z")

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The new stadium built for the Seattle Kraken was built partially with the idea of having a venue for a future NBA franchise. Most likely when that occurs (I think it’s inevitable so I won’t say “if”) it will be the Sonics again, since the team is still looked on very fondly in the area. I was a huge fan in high school and always wore a Sonics jacket to school in those days.

I wouldn’t so much call the Sonics “defunct”, as I’d say they’re on hiatus.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/popularity-of-defunct-team-uniforms/932196/43 "2021-02-11T00:09:00Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Most likely when that occurs (I think it’s inevitable so I won’t say “if”) it will be the Sonics again, since the team is still looked on very fondly in the area.

It looks like a legal settlement between the city, and the owner who moved the Sonics franchise to Oklahoma City, is set up to facilitate this. As per [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_SuperSonics):

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> Settlement terms of a lawsuit between the city of Seattle and Clay Bennett’s ownership group stipulated the SuperSonics’ banners, trophies, and retired jerseys remain in Seattle; the nickname, logo, and color scheme are available to any subsequent NBA team that plays at a renovated KeyArena subject to NBA approval. The SuperSonics’ franchise history, however, would be shared with the Thunder.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/popularity-of-defunct-team-uniforms/932196/44 "2021-02-11T00:47:41Z")

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Interesting. But is the new Krakens arena a renovated KeyArena or a different venue? If the latter this might get complex.

I have no idea about the arenas, their locations, etc. and am too lazy to dig into it. Somebody local should know off top of their head.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/popularity-of-defunct-team-uniforms/932196/45 "2021-02-11T05:34:20Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Interesting. But is the new Krakens arena a renovated KeyArena or a different venue? If the latter this might get complex.

The Key Arena was rebuilt from the inside-out; they kept the roof and some of the exterior but everything inside is brand new. They even lowered the bottom of the arena 15 feet into the ground.

[Climate Pledge Arena](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_Pledge_Arena) (I know, what a crappy name, blame Jeff Bezos who named it) is a multi-purpose venue that will host all kinds of events, from concerts to hockey to basketball to circuses and ice shows.

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**Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/popularity-of-defunct-team-uniforms/932196/46 "2021-02-23T17:21:48Z")

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> [@SanVito](#):
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> I’m struggling to think of an english football team disappearing or changing names. Apart from Wimbledon.

I’m coming late to this but I remember Aldershot closing down before the end of the season, in 1992.

The 2 big post-war club closures in England were Bradford Park Avenue in the early 70s, and Accrington Stanley in the early 60s. Both names were later taken on by new clubs.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/popularity-of-defunct-team-uniforms/932196/47 "2021-02-23T17:46:50Z")

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With the carnage in minor league baseball now being public, it’ll be a little interesting to see how many of the newly killed teams have any ongoing merch recognition. Obviously minor leagues already are starting from a pretty low and unenthusiastic base.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/popularity-of-defunct-team-uniforms/932196/48 "2021-02-26T16:12:06Z")

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Not necessarily. The Albany River Rats moved away over ten years ago, but their merchandise is still being sold.

[https://www.google.com/search?q=albany+river+rats&rlz=1C1GCEA\_enUS887US887&sxsrf=ALeKk00WBS\_IV6rlUQ4gpEb5cf5rxaJAFA:1614355771593&source=lnms&tbm=shop&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjxtbny94fvAhWEneAKHXf7BzAQ\_AUoAXoECBIQAw&biw=1280&bih=881](https://www.google.com/search?q=albany+river+rats&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS887US887&sxsrf=ALeKk00WBS_IV6rlUQ4gpEb5cf5rxaJAFA:1614355771593&source=lnms&tbm=shop&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjxtbny94fvAhWEneAKHXf7BzAQ_AUoAXoECBIQAw&biw=1280&bih=881)

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/popularity-of-defunct-team-uniforms/932196/49 "2021-02-26T19:59:41Z")

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and now is popular in NC since the Canes wear them every year

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/popularity-of-defunct-team-uniforms/932196/50 "2021-02-26T21:19:26Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> > In an interesting wrinkle, back in 2018 minor league baseball started a marketing effort aimed at Latinx folks. So the team now has 2 names: Isotopes and also Mariachis de Nuevo Mexico. With a whole different theme, etc. And of course the opportunity to sell twice the merch to the same crowds.

I think the old Albuquerque Dukes logo is still more popular than the Isotopes. There’s a number of places making bootleg (I mean, somebody has to technically own the rights, right?) Dukes merchandise. That said, I don’t wear that merchandise when I go to a game. I wear my old Dukes promotional hat from like 1994.

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