# Pork is preserved by making it into ham. Why aren't other kinds of meats preserved in that same way?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** food-cooking\
**Created:** [October 3, 2022, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pork-is-preserved-by-making-it-into-ham-why-arent-other-kinds-of-meats-preserved-in-that-same-way/972637 "2022-10-03T14:58:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pork-is-preserved-by-making-it-into-ham-why-arent-other-kinds-of-meats-preserved-in-that-same-way/972637/61 "2022-10-05T01:45:17Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> Okay, now I’m hungry for a sausage plate and beer.

Appropriate month for that.

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**Author:** ![WellHelloThere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9dc877/32.png) [@WellHelloThere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WellHelloThere)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2022, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pork-is-preserved-by-making-it-into-ham-why-arent-other-kinds-of-meats-preserved-in-that-same-way/972637/62 "2022-10-05T03:08:37Z")

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Its a brisket, yeah

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pork-is-preserved-by-making-it-into-ham-why-arent-other-kinds-of-meats-preserved-in-that-same-way/972637/63 "2022-10-11T21:30:04Z")

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@TriPolar’s right- pastrami is for all intents and purposes, corned beef that’s been coated in a mixture of coriander and black pepper, and then smoked.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pork-is-preserved-by-making-it-into-ham-why-arent-other-kinds-of-meats-preserved-in-that-same-way/972637/64 "2022-10-11T21:34:08Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> There’s pastirma/basturma from the Turkey to Armenia-ish region.

I went to a place in Hollywood and asked for basturma. The woman working there asked if I were Russian, or Armenian. (I have brown hair and blue eyes.)

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pork-is-preserved-by-making-it-into-ham-why-arent-other-kinds-of-meats-preserved-in-that-same-way/972637/65 "2022-10-12T05:07:05Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> pastrami is for all intents and purposes, corned beef that’s been coated in a mixture of coriander and black pepper, and then smoked.

Which makes all the difference in the world. **DesertRoomie** adores corned beef and cabbage so on St. Patrick’s Day we hie to a local NYC-style deli that offers an AYCE dinner of the stuff. Me? I order their pastrami sandwich with extra meat instead and snarf a slice or two of her soda bread.

I have wondered from time to time why you never see pastrami hash instead of the inevitable corned beef.

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pork-is-preserved-by-making-it-into-ham-why-arent-other-kinds-of-meats-preserved-in-that-same-way/972637/66 "2022-10-12T13:37:18Z")

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It’s pretty good if you put it on a pizza and cook it a little bit.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pork-is-preserved-by-making-it-into-ham-why-arent-other-kinds-of-meats-preserved-in-that-same-way/972637/67 "2022-10-12T14:23:55Z")

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I have considered making pastrami hash but could never resist eating good pastrami in a sandwich with Cole slaw and Russian dressing (although these days I use Ukrainian dressing).

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pork-is-preserved-by-making-it-into-ham-why-arent-other-kinds-of-meats-preserved-in-that-same-way/972637/68 "2022-10-12T18:02:08Z")

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That might be it. Probably the same reason you never see bacon hash.

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**Author:** ![WellHelloThere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9dc877/32.png) [@WellHelloThere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WellHelloThere)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pork-is-preserved-by-making-it-into-ham-why-arent-other-kinds-of-meats-preserved-in-that-same-way/972637/69 "2022-10-12T18:19:00Z")

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Yeah, I could see that working. The cooking really brings out the saltiness, I ate a piece and it was like drinking water from the ocean.

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pork-is-preserved-by-making-it-into-ham-why-arent-other-kinds-of-meats-preserved-in-that-same-way/972637/70 "2022-10-12T18:34:04Z")

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Hash is the leftovers from a boiled dinner. Many older hash recipes are basically a thick stew using a roux with the stock and everything chopped up in it. Sunday’s corned beef/ham/roast boiled dinner becomes Monday’s hash.

I’m guessing smoked meat wouldn’t have the veggies and stock to make the hash. Leftover smoked meats became sandwiches.

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pork-is-preserved-by-making-it-into-ham-why-arent-other-kinds-of-meats-preserved-in-that-same-way/972637/71 "2022-10-16T15:37:51Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Probably the same reason you never see bacon hash.

You do at Casa De Shoe from time to time. Leftover potatoes, sliced/diced + bacon + onion (+ possibly some butter) and then maybe some garlic thrown in towards the end.

> [@TriPolar](#):
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> good pastrami in a sandwich with Cole slaw and Russian dressing (although these days I use Ukrainian dressing).

Okay, that was funny.

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