# Porn in other countries **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 22, 2002, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477 "2002-03-22T02:53:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477/21 "2002-03-22T19:52:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Narrad \* > Lately, I’ve noticed that Blockbuster et al like to scatter their porn amongst the new releases. In the old days (read: 80s :)), I remember porn had it’s own shelving - or even a separate room. When did _Blockbuster_ ever carry porn? :eek: My experiences have been that local mom-n-pop video stores will have porn (usually in a back room), but the big chains like Blockbuster were strictly R-rated or tamer. > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Kyomara_ > Unfortunately, penetration, beaver shots, and pictures of erect penises are a no-no. IIRC, this restriction came from the United States, as part of the surrender agreement after WWII. Damn Americans, messin’ with good ol’ Japanese porn! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477/22 "2002-03-22T22:50:39Z")
Blockbuster does not now and never has carried true porn. Their “family-friendly” image would be tarnished; they carry only movies with ratings from G to R. Any movie released with an NC-17 must be re-edited to an R version to make Blockbuster’s shelves. However, they will hypocritically carry the latest Shannon Tweed titfest or any of the generically titled erotic thrillers (“pick a word from this list: Carnal, Exotic, Dangerous, etc.; and a word from this list: Lust, Obsession, Sin, etc.”), _as long as they’re unrated._ Go browse the shelves sometime. They’ll also carry the unrated version of a “major” film (say, Bruce Willis in _The Color of Night_), but not an unrated indie (say, Todd Solondz’s _Happiness_). The movie studios will actually show R-rated movies to Blockbuster executives and make further-diluted versions if Blockbuster thinks the material is harder than R. Blockbuster is evil. Do not rent movies from them. [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2002, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477/23 "2002-03-22T22:50:46Z")
He’s probably talking about those “Eros” series tapes from Playboy, Blockbusters in St. Louis carry them, but in R rated form. Not that i’d know anything about that!😉 ---
**Author:** ![Niobium\_Knight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Niobium\_Knight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Niobium_Knight)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2002, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477/24 "2002-03-23T01:09:34Z")
Interesting there’s so many fans of Japanese women. I like them too. Whish I could get hold of some Jap porn mags. ---
**Author:** ![Space\_Vampire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Space\_Vampire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Space_Vampire)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2002, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477/25 "2002-03-23T01:30:10Z")
Porn mags are obsolete. I’m not one of those condescending quasi-racist “Asian fetish” guys. It’s just that we Americans are fat and look like ass. ---
**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2002, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477/26 "2002-03-23T01:46:59Z")
Unfortunately, nowadays a lot of porn from around the world mirrors Cali-porn-ia, in which the plots are totally underemphasized or nonexistent. Just a little interview, some tease, and or straight up sex. This is especially so in Japan, which a lot is being done “Dirty Debutante” style. There are some like Nin who becomes ambitious and shoot costume or time period porn. There is a lot of hardcore from Japan. It sometimes depict good setup scenes featuring extensive foreplay, and the women start out wearing ordinary outfits. And…Panasonic makes dildoes?? But as mentioned before, at times it does look like date rape or GHB drug-induced sex. The young women just look there do not look lively at all. At least not Debi Diamond lively. The game shows in Japan are really weird, and very graphic. Generally, nudity is not considered a turn-on. On the HBO show about Sex around the world, they have a game show in which power is generated by women’s flowing pee. No I’m not kidding. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2002, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477/27 "2002-03-23T02:20:21Z")
> [@](#): > > IIRC, this restriction came from the United States, as part of the surrender agreement after WWII. (excerpt from the surrender agreement) ARTICLE 115: The Empire of Japan or its successor government will co-operate in the identification, apprehension and prosecution of individuals named by an international tribunal on war crimes. ARTICLE 116: The Empire of Japan or its successor government will limit their armed forces to a level that existed on January 1, 1921 and disband any military units which exist in excess of that limit. Military equipment in excess of that limit will be destroyed by or surrendered to allied forces. ARTICLE 117: The Empire of Japan or its successor government will prohibit the appearance of penetration, beaver shots, or erect penises in films produced in Japan. The continued use of nipples and butt shots will not be restricted. ARTICLE 118: The Empire of Japan or its successor government will agree to pay a fixed sum to the Republic of France for damages resulting from the occupation of her colonies in Asia or the Pacific. The Empire of Japan or its successor government will agree to pay a fixed sum to citizens of these colonies who suffered individual harm. ---
**Author:** ![Space\_Vampire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Space\_Vampire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Space_Vampire)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2002, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477/28 "2002-03-23T02:25:26Z")
Research wins again! ---
**Author:** ![Fingolfin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eada6e/32.png) [@Fingolfin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fingolfin)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2002, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477/29 "2002-03-23T03:30:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Duke \* > \*\*British porn is absolutely pathetic. And that’s all I’m gonna say. \*\* I’ll say. The only British porno flick I ever saw featured god awful ugly girls with foot fungus! I swear to you, every single girl on that video had nasty, gnarly, foot fungus! It was just awful! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Frink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Mr.Frink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Frink)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2002, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477/30 "2002-03-23T03:36:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Little Nemo \* > \*\* > > (excerpt from the surrender agreement) > > ARTICLE 117: > > \*\* I hate it when I don’t know if I’ve been “whooshed” or not… :wally ---
**Author:** ![Doug\_Bowe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@Doug\_Bowe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_Bowe)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2002, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477/31 "2002-03-23T07:29:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cervaise \* > \*\*Blockbuster does not now and never has carried true porn. Their “family-friendly” image would be tarnished; they carry only movies with ratings from G to R. Any movie released with an NC-17 must be re-edited to an R version to make Blockbuster’s shelves. > > (snip) > > They’ll also carry the unrated version of a “major” film… > > (snip) > > [/hijack] \*\* –Yep! I don’t know if Blockbuster realizes it, but this policy actually gets stated in advertising copy provided by a regional agency. Rent “American Pie 2” as an R. Or get an extra 6 minutes in “American Pie 2” unrated. Make it a Blockbuster night. ---
**Author:** ![reoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@reoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reoch)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2002, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477/32 "2002-03-23T09:05:48Z")
GOD I SO Love this site…😃 😃 😃 😃 Reoch ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2002, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477/33 "2002-03-23T10:14:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Space Vampire \* > **Japanese porn with some semblance of female enthusiasm is like a gift from above.** I was found a lesbian scene between two Japanese women, no men at all, one with a strap-on. I was shocked! Shocked I tell you! mmm, Azumi Kawashima. ---
**Author:** ![Jervoise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d2c977/32.png) [@Jervoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jervoise)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2002, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477/34 "2002-03-23T14:51:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cervaise \* > \*\*Blockbuster does not now and never has carried true porn. Their “family-friendly” image would be tarnished; they carry only movies with ratings from G to R. Any movie released with an NC-17 must be re-edited to an R version to make Blockbuster’s shelves.[/hijack] \*\* Hmm… Blockbuster here in Australia must be different. It carries videos with an 18+ rating - meaning softcore porn is okay. [Our ratings system is also differs: G - general exhibition PG - parental guidance for kiddies under 13 M - parental guidance for kiddies under 15 MA - restricted to ages 15+ R - restricted to ages 18+ Blockbuster here carries all of the above.] ---
**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2002, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477/35 "2002-03-23T15:22:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TigoleBitties \* > \*\*And he aint kiddin about the fetish movement over there…everything is availible. Balloon fetish, foot worship, and the ever present and IMHO way off the chart …Bukkake \*\* Wait a minute…_balloon fetish?_ Whazzat? ---
**Author:** ![kase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a5b964/32.png) [@kase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kase)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2002, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477/36 "2002-03-23T15:31:21Z")
You name it. We have it. But no matter what quality, I still get the giggles at the “actors/actresses” or the script. or the editing. or the \* background music! \* ;j ---
**Author:** ![Solomon7t](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Solomon7t](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Solomon7t)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2002, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477/37 "2002-03-23T21:09:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Little Nemo \* > \*\* > > (excerpt from the surrender agreement) > > ARTICLE 115: The Empire of Japan or its successor government will co-operate in the identification, apprehension and prosecution of individuals named by an international tribunal on war crimes. > > ARTICLE 116: The Empire of Japan or its successor government will limit their armed forces to a level that existed on January 1, 1921 and disband any military units which exist in excess of that limit. Military equipment in excess of that limit will be destroyed by or surrendered to allied forces. > > ARTICLE 117: The Empire of Japan or its successor government will prohibit the appearance of penetration, beaver shots, or erect penises in films produced in Japan. The continued use of nipples and butt shots will not be restricted. > > ARTICLE 118: The Empire of Japan or its successor government will agree to pay a fixed sum to the Republic of France for damages resulting from the occupation of her colonies in Asia or the Pacific. The Empire of Japan or its successor government will agree to pay a fixed sum to citizens of these colonies who suffered individual harm. \*\* 😃 😃 😃 ROFL LOLOLLOLOLLOLOL OMG, that was teh funny. On another not ‘bukkake’ is disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![Solomon7t](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Solomon7t](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Solomon7t)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2002, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477/38 "2002-03-23T21:10:38Z")
oops, that was supposed to say “On another **note** , ‘bukkake’ is disgusting.” ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2002, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477/39 "2002-03-24T00:07:38Z")
When I was a lad, I went to see a porn film. The afternoon cinema was practically empty. There was a courting couple in the back, and a man in a raincoat at the front (it wasn’t raining). :eek: I sat in the middle and ignored the grunting from the other patrons. The film was called ‘I’m trying to keep it up’ and had a complicated plot. Our hero was left a lot of money by an eccentric relative who wanted the hero to marry and start a family within a year. So our hero had a medical exam to see if he could…perform. The report had good and bad news. Yes, he was fertile - but he only had enough ‘energy’ to have 12 more erections. 😕 (And he wasted one of those on the dishy nurse who helped examine him). Now for a plot twist. The alternative inheritor was a sly female who got hold of the medical report, and spent the rest of the film hiring women to seduce the hero and … ‘use up his energy’. In the end it turned out the report was mistaken and he did get the dosh (plus a lot of seductions). 🆒 They don’t make them like that any more. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2002, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477/40 "2002-03-24T07:06:12Z")
**Narrad** beat me to it with his/her outline of the Australian movie ratings system. When i moved to the US, i was initially surprised at how many mainstream movies were rated “R”, until i realised that this rating in America is closer to Australia’s “MA” than to its “R”. A couple of Aussies on this thread have mentioned that they have only ever seen “R” rated porn, which doesn’t generally show any direct genital contact or penetration, and certainly none of the more risque stuff. I’m sure these Australians are aware that there is a big porn industry in the Australian Capital Territory (sort of Australia’s equivalent to the District of Columbia, for American Dopers). Not only are there heaps of shops and mail-order porn services in the ACT, but there is now apparently a burgeoning porn film industry that even exports to the US and Europe. The interesting thing is that it is illegal in most (all?) Australian states to sell hardcore porn on video or DVD (magazines are OK), but anyone in any of those states can order hardcore porn from the ACT and still be within the law. If there are any Australian legal experts on this board, they might want to correct me, but i think that this arrangement goes back to the 1901 Constititution, which states: > [@](#): > > 1. On the imposition of uniform duties of customs, trade, commerce, and intercourse among the States, whether by means of internal carriage or ocean navigation, shall be absolutely free. So you can’t legally sell the hardcore stuff in New South Wales (although lots of places do, and the cops generally turn a blind eye), but you can order it by mail from Canberra. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-in-other-countries/99477.md?page=3)