# Porn question I may regret asking **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 3, 2010, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452 "2010-09-03T00:44:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452/21 "2010-09-03T04:35:12Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > I would WAG it has something to do with a subtle form of putting down women, they just have to accept anything being put into them no matter how big and like it. Maybe the huge penis is the soul tie between the man and the woman? ---
**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452/22 "2010-09-03T04:40:20Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Having seen some porn in Japan, where either men are quite small and/or they don’t choose actors for the size of their dick (which is possible, since I think lots of it produced by mafia, with mafioso taking turns to be The Guy) – it makes it hard to believe all the oohing and ahhing as they’re going at it, which throws you out of the scene. True, I pretty well never believe the oohing and ahhing and it always does throw me out of the scene, but the throwing is quicker and more forceful when the dude has a shrimpy dick. Bear in mind that Japanese porn is a whole different animal than Western porn. For starters, 80% of their “actors” are real, everyday people. They have very few porn stars the way other cultures have so the guys’ appendages are naturally what they are - on the small size. Secondly, there is an inherent fetish within Japanese porn to have the women cry as though they are in pain. It is part of the subjugation of women and rape fantasies and the women in the scenes are taught to cry and appear as though they are being hurt. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452/23 "2010-09-03T04:44:11Z")
For the same reason men like sports stars, tough movie heroes, and watching fast cars. They want the most idealised themselves-substitute as possible. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452/24 "2010-09-03T04:45:11Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > > [@TriPolar](#): > > > > I’ve never seen any penises except for my own and those of porn stars. Until you started this thread, I had assumed mine was just a little larger than normal. I’m still not sure if you are serious. And what kind of woman would be sexually attracted to a small penis? Is this one of those gag threads? > > Awesome username/post combo! 😃 I was wondering if anyone would pick that up. Sometimes people don’t get the thrust of my jokes. I love this thread. Everything I enter sounds dirty. ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452/25 "2010-09-03T04:45:34Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Having seen some porn in Japan, where either men are quite small and/or they don’t choose actors for the size of their dick (which is possible [snip] And that’s related to a question I was going to ask. In Japanese porn, women yelp and cry like they’re being eviscerated by some “massive” 4’ long unit that’s hammering away at them. ALL Japanese porn that I’ve seen features men with small penises. That tells me there’s ever very little variance among the sizes of Japanese penises, or that the choice of small penises in Japanese porn is deliberate, so the viewer can relate to the scene better. So, is the standard deviation among Asian penis sizes smaller than for other races, or is the prevalence of small penises in porn just another “odd” Japanese thing? ---
**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452/26 "2010-09-03T04:47:57Z")
> [@elmwood](#): > > > [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > > > Having seen some porn in Japan, where either men are quite small and/or they don’t choose actors for the size of their dick (which is possible [snip] > > And that’s related to a question I was going to ask. In Japanese porn, women yelp and cry like they’re being eviscerated by some “massive” 4’ long unit that’s hammering away at them. ALL Japanese porn that I’ve seen features men with small penises. That tells me there’s ever very little variance among the sizes of Japanese penises, or that the choice of small penises in Japanese porn is deliberate, so the viewer can relate to the scene better. So, is the standard deviation among Asian penis sizes smaller than for other races, or is the prevalence of small penises in porn just another “odd” Japanese thing? See my post above. The yelping and crying has little to do with the “massiveness” but with the fetish of rape and subjugation that the girls are supposed to imply. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452/27 "2010-09-03T05:06:14Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > > [@kanicbird](#): > > > > I would WAG it has something to do with a subtle form of putting down women, they just have to accept anything being put into them no matter how big and like it. > > Maybe the huge penis is the soul tie between the man and the woman? Hahahahaaa…Somebody had to say it. Thanks for causing me to laugh explosively and wake my wife, **mhendo**. Thanks a lot. Really. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452/28 "2010-09-03T06:49:42Z")
> [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](#): > > See my post above. The yelping and crying has little to do with the “massiveness” but with the fetish of rape and subjugation that the girls are supposed to imply. What about the uniformly sized shorties, though? ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452/29 "2010-09-03T06:56:09Z")
> [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](#): > > It is part of the subjugation of women and rape fantasies and the women in the scenes are taught to cry and appear as though they are being hurt. Eh, it’s not like women aren’t subjugated, thrown down, and “brutally” fucked in Western porn. I’ll admit that the sounds the women make is higher pitched in Japanese stuff, but the message is largely the same in both cases. “Oh he’s so powerful. Oh he’s thrusting through me with a 10 foot rod. Save me! Save me!” Both are rather silly, but the Western version works just slightly better for having a penis that is somewhat closer to being a 10 foot rod. ---
**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452/30 "2010-09-03T06:57:02Z")
> [@elmwood](#): > > > [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](#): > > > > See my post above. The yelping and crying has little to do with the “massiveness” but with the fetish of rape and subjugation that the girls are supposed to imply. > > What about the uniformly sized shorties, though? It is cultural – they ARE uniformly short with few exceptions. And because their porn utilizes real people instead of the abnormally large, you are seeing what is the cultural norm for them. ---
**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452/31 "2010-09-03T07:00:13Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Both are rather silly, **but the Western version works just slightly better** for having a penis that is somewhat closer to being a 10 foot rod. The bold is mine – I believe that is entirely culturally subjective because it is what you are used to seeing. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452/32 "2010-09-03T07:17:08Z")
> [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](#): > > The bold is mine – I believe that is entirely culturally subjective because it is what you are used to seeing. I’ve lived probably an even portion of my adult life in the US and in Japan, with about an even mix of the pr0n of both, I’d guess. ---
**Author:** ![PookahMacPhellimey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pookahmacphellimey/32/3175_2.png) [@PookahMacPhellimey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PookahMacPhellimey)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452/33 "2010-09-03T08:21:30Z")
> [@astro](#): > > When a women has a big dick sawing away inside she often seems lost in the moment. with smaller penises they seems much less engaged, like they are working on their grocery lists in their heads while performing. Just in case you’re serious, and this should be very old news but: If the girl is not engaged there are usually other reasons than just size. p.s. Great question and educational thread! ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452/34 "2010-09-03T09:22:36Z")
> [@PookahMacPhellimey](#): > > > [@astro](#): > > > > When a women has a big dick sawing away inside she often seems lost in the moment. with smaller penises they seems much less engaged, like they are working on their grocery lists in their heads while performing. > > Just in case you’re serious, and this should be very old news but: > > If the girl is not engaged there are usually other reasons than just size. > > p.s. Great question and educational thread! I understand that. The point I’m making is that all other things being equal (unless her vagina is cavernous) a female porn performer is usually more animated when engaged with large penis. John Holmes was possibly the world’s worst conventional actor, but when he put his big penis in some women (not all) they went to a place of real erotic rapture that is rarely seen in porn. For all the talk of size not mattering all that much, there are a number of women who like the erotic aesthetic appeal of a large penis. See [The great size debate: In defense of big penises](http://www.salon.com/life/broadsheet/2010/08/05/men_size_matters/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452/35 "2010-09-03T09:39:05Z")
I always thought porn penises were quite small… ---
**Author:** ![BorgHunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@BorgHunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BorgHunter)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452/36 "2010-09-03T11:20:09Z")
> [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](#): > > It is a fantasy world and the true shame is that men (and women!) who watch porn want what is being idealized and is never, ever really possible. So do Tolkien readers. How is that a shame? Fantasy is fantasy; we’re wired for it. ---
**Author:** ![PookahMacPhellimey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pookahmacphellimey/32/3175_2.png) [@PookahMacPhellimey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PookahMacPhellimey)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452/37 "2010-09-03T11:23:39Z")
> [@astro](#): > > > [@PookahMacPhellimey](#): > > > > Just in case you’re serious, and this should be very old news but: > > > > If the girl is not engaged there are usually other reasons than just size. > > > > p.s. Great question and educational thread! > > I understand that. The point I’m making is that all other things being equal (unless her vagina is cavernous) a female porn performer is usually more animated when engaged with large penis. John Holmes was possibly the world’s worst conventional actor, but when he put his big penis in some women (not all) they went to a place of real erotic rapture that is rarely seen in porn. > > For all the talk of size not mattering all that much, there are a number of women who like the erotic aesthetic appeal of a large penis. > > See [The great size debate: In defense of big penises](http://www.salon.com/life/broadsheet/2010/08/05/men_size_matters/index.html) Adding in that “all other things being equal” caveat made the difference for me and I don’t, in essence, disagree with you. I’m sure there are women who are turned on aesthically or are physically stimulated more by a big penis. Just would hate the idea that anyone would walk away from the thread thinking that a smaller one couldn’t engage a woman or that this was _solely_ a matter of size. Which it is now clear you didn’t mean to suggest. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f1d935/32.png) [@GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GSV_Consolation_of_Dreams)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452/38 "2010-09-03T11:46:27Z")
> [@Richard\_Pearse](#): > > I always thought porn penises were quite small… I see what you did there. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452/39 "2010-09-03T12:02:54Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > And what kind of woman would be sexually attracted to a small penis? Is this one of those gag threads? Internet rule #34 - I am certain there is a group of people with small penis fetish out there. More commonly, though, I’d guess that it is something _else_ in the man the woman is attracted to and a small penis is just part of the overall package > [@astro](#): > > When a women has a big dick sawing away inside she often seems lost in the moment. with smaller penises they seems much less engaged, like they are working on their grocery lists in their heads while performing. Actually, not only are we women working on our grocery lists while having sex, we’re also wondering what color to repaint the walls of the room and pondering the weather. You’re just not supposed to know we’re multitasking. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452/40 "2010-09-03T13:02:01Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > So, why are the penises so large (or at least are shown in ways to maximize their apparent size)? [I’ve wondered that myself.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12840982&postcount=76) > [@Chronos](#): > > if you’re identifying with the man in the scene, then you’re identifying your penis with his penis. And if it’s your penis, well of course you want it to be big. But wouldn’t it make it harder to identify with his penis if said penis is freakishly large? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/porn-question-i-may-regret-asking/552452.md?page=3)