# Portage murder, child abduction and turture case gets worse. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 20, 2007, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portage-murder-child-abduction-and-turture-case-gets-worse/408725 "2007-06-20T15:27:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portage-murder-child-abduction-and-turture-case-gets-worse/408725/1 "2007-06-20T15:27:41Z")
Don’t read the links if you want to avoid some nasty shit. In fact you might want to not read any farther in that case. Original thread. > **[Murder, child abduction, and torture in Portage](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=425117)** > > Florida called the local police to check on a child abduction. They found 4 kids at a home near the railroad yard. Two women were arrested. A fifteen year old girl said that her mother was dead… The police were told a boy was still in the house, so... Here’s the latest on the case. [http://www.wiscnews.com/pdr/news/197970](http://www.wiscnews.com/pdr/news/197970) It seems the 15 year old helped to bury her mother the next day, after driving around with the man that is accused of the murder. It seams the murder victim was alive in the trunk, while the daughter and the man shopped for equipment. They purchased a shovel and dealt with the body the next day. The 11 year old boy was tortured by Clerc, who is one of the women staying in the home. The details are in the article, so I won’t post it here. Nothing was wrong with the kidnapped two year old. These crimes are bad individually, and are hard to take in one sitting. I can’t read it all at once. Additional articles in the local paper. [http://www.wiscnews.com/pdr/news/197971](http://www.wiscnews.com/pdr/news/197971) [http://www.wiscnews.com/pdr/news/197972](http://www.wiscnews.com/pdr/news/197972) [http://www.wiscnews.com/pdr/news/197973](http://www.wiscnews.com/pdr/news/197973) ---
**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portage-murder-child-abduction-and-turture-case-gets-worse/408725/2 "2007-06-20T15:46:47Z")
I feel sick. That poor boy. ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portage-murder-child-abduction-and-turture-case-gets-worse/408725/3 "2007-06-20T15:53:15Z")
[QUOTE=TroubleAgain] I feel sick. That poor boy. [/QUOTE] Yes. ---
**Author:** ![lavenderviolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@lavenderviolet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lavenderviolet)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portage-murder-child-abduction-and-turture-case-gets-worse/408725/4 "2007-06-20T15:57:09Z")
Yes, that is a pretty disturbing story. But on a more positive note, I’m glad to see that newspaper is helping to raise funds to help those kids out. Hopefully they will get the help they need to recover from this ordeal. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portage-murder-child-abduction-and-turture-case-gets-worse/408725/5 "2007-06-20T16:34:01Z")
Sounds like characters from a John D. McDonald novel. ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portage-murder-child-abduction-and-turture-case-gets-worse/408725/6 "2007-06-20T16:50:30Z")
They are in protective custody, so their lives are already better. The media isn’t being told anything that will allow them to track the kids and harass them. ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portage-murder-child-abduction-and-turture-case-gets-worse/408725/7 "2007-06-20T23:07:40Z")
All the Madison television crews were in Portage today, awaiting to see what charges are filed. ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portage-murder-child-abduction-and-turture-case-gets-worse/408725/8 "2007-06-20T23:52:37Z")
They are charging the man the two women and the 15 year old daughter with murder. Surprise the judge denied bail, because they’re all a flight risk. i hope more than the one lady gets charged for the boy’s torture, because the others knew about that. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portage-murder-child-abduction-and-turture-case-gets-worse/408725/9 "2007-06-21T00:37:29Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] Sounds like characters from a John D. McDonald novel. [/QUOTE] Seriously? The Travis McGee books? Because I just started reading those (well, listening to the audiobooks) and this news story is pretty horrific, and I’m not sure I want to continue these books if stuff like that happens in them. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portage-murder-child-abduction-and-turture-case-gets-worse/408725/10 "2007-06-21T01:00:33Z")
[QUOTE=chorpler] I’m not sure I want to continue these books if stuff like that happens in them. [/QUOTE] There are some really mean country Floridians as bad guys. There are murders and the abuse of women but nothing as bad as torturing the child or a child killing his/her parent. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portage-murder-child-abduction-and-turture-case-gets-worse/408725/11 "2007-06-21T01:18:25Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] There are some really mean country Floridians as bad guys. There are murders and the abuse of women but nothing as bad as torturing the child or a child killing his/her parent. [/QUOTE] Okay, that’s good to know. The one-and-a-half Travis McGee books I’ve read so far didn’t seem like they would include that kind of thing, but with detective/mysteries like this you never know what will crop up. I’ll keep listening, then. Thanks **carnivorousplant**. Sorry for the hijack, everybody. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portage-murder-child-abduction-and-turture-case-gets-worse/408725/12 "2007-06-21T01:38:27Z")
[QUOTE=chorpler] Okay, that’s good to know. [/QUOTE] The two that came to mind are _Bright Orange for the Shroud_ and _The Long Lavender Look._ ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portage-murder-child-abduction-and-turture-case-gets-worse/408725/13 "2007-06-21T02:12:25Z")
The news just included this. The 15 year old daughter participated in the mother’s abuse prior to her death. She also participated in the torture of the boy. ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portage-murder-child-abduction-and-turture-case-gets-worse/408725/14 "2007-06-21T23:29:24Z")
A bit more has come up today. Only two are being denied bail. The whole group had an identity theft operation going on. The poor boy is such a sad tail. What do they mean by his hands are mummified? Dead? Tons of scar tissue? Today’s local paper links. [http://www.wiscnews.com/pdr/news/198209](http://www.wiscnews.com/pdr/news/198209) [http://www.wiscnews.com/pdr/news/198197](http://www.wiscnews.com/pdr/news/198197) [http://www.wiscnews.com/pdr/news/198211](http://www.wiscnews.com/pdr/news/198211) [http://www.wiscnews.com/pdr/news/198208](http://www.wiscnews.com/pdr/news/198208) ---
**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portage-murder-child-abduction-and-turture-case-gets-worse/408725/15 "2007-06-22T02:52:11Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] The two that came to mind are _Bright Orange for the Shroud_ and _The Long Lavender Look._ [/QUOTE] Oh, how weird. I’m reading my first Travis McGee book, and it’s the Long Lavendar Look. So far the body count is only two, and not as gruesome as other stuff I’ve read… ---
**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portage-murder-child-abduction-and-turture-case-gets-worse/408725/16 "2007-06-22T02:56:48Z")
“I don’t want to hurt no more” That poor, poor child. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portage-murder-child-abduction-and-turture-case-gets-worse/408725/17 "2007-06-22T03:34:14Z")
[QUOTE=kittenblue] Oh, how weird. I’m reading my first Travis McGee book, and it’s the Long Lavendar Look. So far the body count is only two, and not as gruesome as other stuff I’ve read… [/QUOTE] It gets kinky. 🙂