# Portent of the end for Walker? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 13, 2015, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030 "2015-09-13T02:11:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030/41 "2015-09-18T14:53:40Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > Bolding mine. > nobody gets twice elected governor and survives a recall election by being a dumbass. . He got twice elected governor and survived a recall election by 1. having friends with EXTREMELY deep pockets putting money into a political machine with more than a few crooked gears 2. running against challengers with the breathtaking charisma and political savvy of a tub of expired cream cheese. If the Democrats had managed to convince Russ Feingold to run, Walker would be trying to get a teaching gig at Bob Jones University right about now. They had to settle for someone (I forget the name, which just goes to show…) with no qualifications and even less charisma. In Wisconsin, he had a perfect storm of a slanted playing field and the backing of the Koch Brothers. On the national stage, he’s out of his league. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030/42 "2015-09-18T15:49:10Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > He is young enough, he might be trying to cut bait and hope it is all forgotten so he can polish up and try again, rather than push it to the official scorecards(primary results) where his career could be ignominiously buried forever. > [@Voyager](#): > > That worked great for Rick Perry. Well, Walker could try a better-concealing pair of glasses – mirrorshades, maybe… ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030/43 "2015-09-18T15:58:39Z")
If this is the end, then good riddance. I thought he had a shot and he scares me more than Bush. Especially with that new anti-union legislation he proposed, combined with his financial support, I consider him one of the more dangerous candidates. Anything that destroys his chance of being elected is a good thing. Plus, other than maybe Trump and Cruz, he has the absolutely most punchable face in the whole race, its hard for me to even look at him. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030/44 "2015-09-18T19:46:03Z")
[Walker’s donors scheme to oust his campaign manager.](http://www.salon.com/2015/09/18/scott_walkers_campaign_in_meltdown_donors_scheme_to_oust_campaign_manager/) ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030/45 "2015-09-18T21:24:39Z")
For reasons I won’t go into here, I saw part of the recent Wisconsin Prayer Breakfast on You Tube, and one of the speakers ended his presentation by saying, “Let’s get our governor elected to the White House!” The applause was very spotty. 😛 :smack: ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2015, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030/46 "2015-09-18T21:32:04Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > According to the Associated Press, vendors for the Walker campaign are still waiting on over $100,000 in payments. > > [AP Tweet](https://twitter.com/sbauerAP/status/644574346153984000) about it – don’t know if it’s become a published story yet. Actually, Clinton had similar problems in 2008: [http://www.politico.com/story/2008/03/cash-strapped-clinton-fails-to-pay-bills-009259](http://www.politico.com/story/2008/03/cash-strapped-clinton-fails-to-pay-bills-009259) Obviously, Clinton didn’t win, but it wasn’t the end for a couple more months. I would think that Walker would be waiting until Iowa. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2015, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030/47 "2015-09-19T05:53:44Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Anyone can have a bad campaign and Walker hasn’t done very well. He’s still going to be a contender in the future or he could be VP. 😕 Why in the world would Hillary ask HIM? ---
**Author:** ![DeptfordX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DeptfordX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeptfordX)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030/48 "2015-09-19T23:42:46Z")
Not wanting to sound shallow, but I wonder if appearance has anything to do with it. He does not photograph well. A google image search is not kind to the man. He just looks dopey in a suprisingly high percentage of them. ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2015, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030/49 "2015-09-20T03:32:48Z")
Walker’s problem is that he has no unique catch besides what state he comes from. Jeb: related to Presidents Rubio: Hispanic and young Trump: celebrity Fiorina: a woman Carson: a black physician Huckabee: evangelist Cruz: Tea Party (and also Hispanic) Paul: Libertarian Christie: was popular with Democrats for a while in a deep blue state (I’m not gonna bother with Graham, Santorum, Jindal, & Pataki). Walker’s got nothing. He’s too generic. Not to mention, his approval rating is in the shitter in his home state. Only popular governors bring swing states! Yes Walker got elected but that means he knows how to be popular at one time, not on a continuous basis. Governors Clinton, Reagan, W. Bush, and Carter were actually popular in their states. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2015, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030/50 "2015-09-20T11:12:26Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > Walker’s problem is that he has no unique catch besides what state he comes from. > > Jeb: related to Presidents > Rubio: Hispanic and young > Trump: celebrity > Fiorina: a woman > Carson: a black physician > Huckabee: evangelist > Cruz: Tea Party (and also Hispanic) > Paul: Libertarian > Christie: was popular with Democrats for a while in a deep blue state > (I’m not gonna bother with Graham, Santorum, Jindal, & Pataki). > > Walker’s got nothing. He’s too generic. Not to mention, his approval rating is in the shitter in his home state. Only popular governors bring swing states! Well, he’d had the “got elected three times in a blue state while bashing all our favorite bogeymen” bit, but now that even Wisconsin is unhappy with him (as you note), he doesn’t really have that anymore. Even with the general unhappiness among the GOP moneymen with this year’s crop of Establishment candidates, it’s hard to see them settling on Walker at this point. They may not be crazy about Jeb or Rubio, but Walker is doing poorly even by the low bar those two set. > [@nearwildheaven](#): > > For reasons I won’t go into here, I saw part of the recent Wisconsin Prayer Breakfast on You Tube, and one of the speakers ended his presentation by saying, “Let’s get our governor elected to the White House!” > > The applause was very spotty. 😛 :smack: Wow, they don’t even _try_ to maintain a pretense of nonpartisanship at those things anymore, do they? ---
**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2015, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030/51 "2015-09-20T21:36:25Z")
> [@DeptfordX](#): > > Not wanting to sound shallow, but I wonder if appearance has anything to do with it. He does not photograph well. A google image search is not kind to the man. He just looks dopey in a suprisingly high percentage of them. I’m sure appearance is a factor (just as it’s been a factor in Presidential elections since the Kennedy-Nixon debate). Walker has a protruding lower lip, a bald spot, and an expression that _Vanity Fair_’s [James Wolcott](http://web.archive.org/web/20110528183931/http://www.vanityfair.com/online/wolcott/2011/02/great-white-hope-gets-rope-a-doped.html) called a “dumb, subservient-to-power junior executive look.” You take one look at the guy and it makes perfect sense that he actually believed David Koch would call him up for a [friendly chat about ratfucking](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/11/i-punkd-scott-walker-100033). Maybe that wouldn’t matter much if Walker had more going for him, but he doesn’t. People keep talking about how he beat a recall in a blue state, as if some kind of masterful political wizardry was involved. What put him over the top was his base of support in the whitebread Milwaukee suburbs; in the rest of the state he’s far less popular. Well, he isn’t running for president of Waukesha County now, and the only other thing on his resume is breaking public employee unions. It’s ludicrous for him to claim that he can beat ISIS because he screwed over teachers waving hand-lettered signs. I’m amazed that some people are still taking him seriously as a candidate. I always figured he would be toast as soon as people saw him in the debates, but I didn’t think the bottom would fall out of his campaign this quickly. The latest [CNN poll](http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/20/politics/carly-fiorina-donald-trump-republican-2016-poll/) has him below 1 percent. ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2015, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030/52 "2015-09-20T21:45:50Z")
> [@DeptfordX](#): > > Not wanting to sound shallow, but I wonder if appearance has anything to do with it. He does not photograph well. A google image search is not kind to the man. He just looks dopey in a suprisingly high percentage of them. I can’t help compare pictures of him (such as [this one](http://www.politicalgarbagechute.com/scott-walker-wisconsins-vaginal-commander-in-chief/)) to the intrepid space traveler [Joel](http://www.avclub.com/article/watch-joel-and-bots-pitch-mst3k-invention-exchange-209449). I’d prefer Joel over Scott (and Mike over Joel, but that’s another debate). ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030/53 "2015-09-21T00:51:29Z")
[New CNN poll - Walker at zero](http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/20/politics/carly-fiorina-donald-trump-republican-2016-poll/index.html) Kersplash. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030/54 "2015-09-21T20:18:31Z")
Reports are that he’ll be dropping out tonight: [http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/21/scott-walker-said-to-be-quitting-presidential-race/?emc=edit\_na\_20150921&nlid=45088254&ref=cta&\_r=1](http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/21/scott-walker-said-to-be-quitting-presidential-race/?emc=edit_na_20150921&nlid=45088254&ref=cta&_r=1) ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030/55 "2015-09-21T20:20:03Z")
Can’t say I’m upset to be wrong about him sticking around until Iowa. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030/56 "2015-09-21T20:25:17Z")
I’ll admit to being shocked. Months ago, I thought Walker was the biggest threat to Democrats winning in 2016. A few weeks ago, I switched to thinking it was Kasich, but I figure Kasich now wants me to to switch to someone else lest he be doomed. Nah. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030/57 "2015-09-21T20:27:17Z")
He wasn’t even at the kiddie table. The ones who \*were \*have got to be thinking about their own futures. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030/58 "2015-09-21T20:42:32Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Reports are that he’ll be dropping out tonight: > > [Scott Walker Ends His 2016 Presidential Run - First Draft. Political News, Now. - The New York Times](http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/21/scott-walker-said-to-be-quitting-presidential-race/?emc=edit_na_20150921&nlid=45088254&ref=cta&_r=1) Walker announced his campaign on July 13. Today is September 21. 71 days. Equating protesting teachers to ISIS terrorists, his appearance and his debate performances, certainly didn’t help, but I like to think the wall at the Canadian border was the clincher. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030/59 "2015-09-21T20:44:32Z")
Having Trump dominating the table is sure shaking things up, isn’t it? Lots of people who came into it having a good shot are falling by the wayside. But it’s still going to come down to Bush. And I still want him to choose Liz Cheney as his running mate. Just so we do get another Bush-Cheney ticket. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030/60 "2015-09-21T21:02:09Z")
Aaaaaaaand, Walker’s out. > **[Scott Walker drops out of 2016 presidential race | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2015/09/21/politics/scott-walker-drops-out-2016-election/index.html)** > > Scott Walker announced Monday he is dropping out of the GOP presidential race. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portent-of-the-end-for-walker/731030.md?page=4)