# Portland OR 17 August 2019 Rally of Far-Right Racist Militant Dipshits
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [August 13, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621 "2019-08-13T19:11:36Z")
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### Author:  [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/1 "2019-08-13T19:11:36Z")
[AP story here](https://apnews.com/5b1dd62557dc4e52bce91d3693c2389c):
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> Portland police are mobilizing to prevent clashes between out-of-state far-right groups planning a rally here and the homegrown anti-fascists who oppose them as America’s culture wars seep into this progressive haven.
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> Portland leaders are planning a major law enforcement presence on the heels of similar rallies in June and last summer that turned violent, and the recent hate-driven shooting in El Paso, Texas. None of the city’s nearly 1,000 police officers will have the day off, and Portland will get help from the Oregon State Police and the FBI. Mayor Ted Wheeler has said he may ask Gov. Kate Brown, a Democrat, to call up the Oregon National Guard.
Who called for/sponsored the rally? Glad you asked!
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> The rally is being organized by a member of the Proud Boys, who have been designated by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a hate group. Others expected include members of the American Guard, the Three Percenters, the Oathkeepers and the Daily Stormers. American Guard is a white nationalist group, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, while the Three Percenters and the Oathkeepers are extremist anti-government militias. The Daily Stormers are neo-Nazis, according to the center.
Joe Biggs, (ex-Info Wars reporter, ex-Twitter user) is the Proud Boys member who has been organizing this rally.
It seems pretty clear that this is “itching for a fight” more than it is “celebrating anything at all” and it sounds like they may get what they want, but I don’t think they’ll get Biggs’ main goal:
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> Joe Biggs, organizer of Saturday’s rally, said the attack on Ngo made him decide to hold the event with the goal of getting antifa declared a domestic terrorist organization.
Like the FBI did with Juggalos, I guess. :rolleyes:
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> Biggs said those coming to Portland have been told not to bring weapons or start fights, but they will defend themselves if attacked.
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> Biggs toned down his online rhetoric after the El Paso shootings and urged followers coming to Portland to keep a cool head. He says he is not racist — he has a toddler daughter with his Guyanese wife — but wants to show the world antifa’s violent tactics.
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> “That group of antifa there in Portland needs to be exposed for who they are,” Biggs said in a phone interview with The Associated Press. **“And guess what? They should be scared.”**
Wait: who exactly is engaging in terrorism here? :dubious:
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> Everyday Portlanders, however, are feeling more frustrated than scared by the protests that bring their city to a standstill. A 5K race scheduled for Saturday along the waterfront was moved at the last minute to avoid any violence, and an Irish bar that’s a city institution canceled an amateur boxing event that draws 500 spectators. Other businesses plan to close on one of the last weekends of the city’s peak tourist season.
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> “People are nervous, people are hesitant to go anywhere near that area, and I don’t blame them,” said Aaron Montaglione, owner of Terrapin Events, which is putting on the 5K race. “It’s affecting everyone.”
I expect more news/posturing over the next few days and prolly all day Saturday, but I didn’t want this to have to be a Breaking News thread, where we can’t make political comments, etc. Fuck that because fuck these white supremacist assholes. Godddamned nazi jerks, [ruining this weekend for the people of Portland like they fucking ruin everything](https://pics.me.me/should-be-at-home-smokin-weed-and-cleaning-my-on-35511905.png).
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### Author:  [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/2 "2019-08-13T19:21:22Z")
Portland, Oregon- that’s perfect!
Right wingers could use some fresh footage of their super-nemesis antifa. Warriors, come out and play-ee-ay!
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### Author:  [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/3 "2019-08-13T19:27:35Z")
If they really believed that the antifas were terrorists, they wouldn’t be going to Portland to confront them. If they thought the antifas would be waiting for them with guns or bombs, the right wingers would be running in the other direction.
But these assholes know they’re safe; at most they’re be some fistfights (and the assholes seem to be going top great length to make sure they’ll be the bigger crowd).
This is the usual tactic of this kind; they have to gather a hundred of them together in order to be brave enough to fight one person. And then they’ll all brag about how they defended themselves.
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### Author:  [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/4 "2019-08-13T19:54:04Z")
It would be best if the doxers would come out in droves just to ‘people watch’. Just crush the assholes with a load of objective reporting.
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### Author:  [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2019, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/5 "2019-08-13T19:58:46Z")
> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#):
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> It would be best if the doxers would come out in droves just to ‘people watch’. Just crush the assholes with a load of objective reporting.
Keep the cameras and videos going. These Nazi assholes will start shit and try to pin it on the Antifas.
The first one brandishing ANYthing at all, the cops should swarm them.
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### Author:  [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2019, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/6 "2019-08-17T13:25:20Z")
[There were some news-worthy items yesterday](https://apnews.com/472a99b78f214e00b96f0b03776b1a28):
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> Patriot Prayer’s Joey Gibson, who is not involved in this weekend’s event but organized similar rallies in 2017 and 2018 that erupted in clashes, surrendered Friday on an arrest warrant for felony rioting. He was at a confrontation that broke out on May 1 outside a bar where members of the so-called “antifa” movement had gathered after a May Day demonstration.
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> A video of that attack went viral and led the Proud Boys, who have been designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, to organize Saturday’s event.
Who’s coming to today’s event?
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> In addition to the Proud Boys, the white nationalist American Guard and the Three Percenters, a far-right militia, have said they will have members in Portland.
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> Hate group watchdogs say the Daily Stormers, a neo-Nazi group, are also expected.
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> The Oath Keepers, another far-right militia group, said in a statement they were pulling out of the rally because organizers have not done enough to keep white supremacist groups away.
But these aren’t the only groups who’s viewpoints will be represented:
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> More than two dozen local, state and federal law enforcement agencies, including the FBI and the Federal Protective Service, were in Portland, Oregon, on Saturday to help police there monitor a right-wing rally that’s expected to draw demonstrators from around the U.S.
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### Author:  [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/7 "2019-08-17T14:14:14Z")
By all means cameras. Get these lowlifes on video screaming their bilge and out them. Maybe they’ll lose their jobs. Maybe their employers could fill those jobs with some nice Jewish folks. Wouldn’t that be irony at its finest?
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### Author:  [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/8 "2019-08-17T16:54:26Z")
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> Major consideration is being given to naming ANTIFA an “ORGANIZATION OF TERROR.” Portland is being watched very closely. Hopefully the Mayor will be able to properly do his job!
[Trump Tweet form this morning.](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1162726857231544320)
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/9 "2019-08-17T21:14:05Z")
When is Trump going to properly do _his_ job?
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### Author:  [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/10 "2019-08-17T21:18:18Z")
Good for the Oathkeepers for pulling out. They are the only group I’ve paid any mind to out of these fringe groups with near zero followers.
These goofballs should be forced onto private property just like the left wing goofballs. Unfortunately so much desirable space, in cities especially, is “owned” by the government. They do such a poor job maintaining the property. Also, constitutional rights to assembly have mistakenly been interpreted to guarantee goofball groups the right to freeload on “public” property, making it even more difficult for the slack-jawed coppers.
In a free society, these social outcasts from both sides would have a very difficult time finding a significant property owner to allow them to let off their angst on each other. Unless of course they made it into a pay-per-view gang fight, which would be mildly amusing.
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### Author:  [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2019, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/11 "2019-08-17T21:25:59Z")
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> Good for the Oathkeepers for pulling out. They are the only group I’ve paid any mind to out of these fringe groups with near zero followers.
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> These goofballs should be forced onto private property just like the left wing goofballs. Unfortunately so much desirable space, in cities especially, is “owned” by the government. They do such a poor job maintaining the property. Also, constitutional rights to assembly have mistakenly been interpreted to guarantee goofball groups the right to freeload on “public” property, making it even more difficult for the slack-jawed coppers.
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> In a free society, these social outcasts from both sides would have a very difficult time finding a significant property owner to allow them to let off their angst on each other. Unless of course they made it into a pay-per-view gang fight, which would be mildly amusing.
Yes a pay per view fight between extremists would be good but hey wait a few years and you will see it for free.
Now, the rest of that post conveys a lack of understanding of how concentrated power would become in the land owners and their mercenaries. We’d be back to the days of warlords without a properly functioning state.
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### Author:  [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2019, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/12 "2019-08-17T21:33:19Z")
I really think that what these people want is a fight. They want to participate in violence, and in our society, violence can be hard to come by.
I don’t see why we can’t just set aside a corner of a park, make sure that anyone who is entering is aware of the nature of that corner of the park don’t allow any weapons, and then just let them beat on eachother till they get as tired of it as we are of them.
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### Author:  [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2019, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/13 "2019-08-17T22:14:23Z")
They want a fight so that they can get a reaction that justifies more fighting.
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### Author:  [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2019, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/14 "2019-08-17T22:20:41Z")
Just popped over to the Fox and Breitbart sites, both of which have heds like **ANTIFA THUGS GO BERSERK; EAT GRANNIES**
But you knew they were gonna run those no matter what happened.
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### Author:  [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2019, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/15 "2019-08-17T22:21:55Z")
[Ha, this is peak Portland–spotted on SE Grand today.](https://i.imgur.com/LKZq1q0.jpg)
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### Author:  [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2019, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/16 "2019-08-17T22:30:53Z")
Good to see that just like our drooling idiot so-called president, drooling morons in this very thread have used the eminently brave and purposeful word combination “both sides”.
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### Author:  [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2019, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/17 "2019-08-17T22:30:54Z")
> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> [Ha, this is peak Portland–spotted on SE Grand today.](https://i.imgur.com/LKZq1q0.jpg)
I’m guessing somebody hacked that.
Kind of like this one.
> **['Zombies ahead', warns electronic road sign](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/4518092/Zombies-ahead-warns-electronic-road-sign.html)**
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> Pranksters in at least three US states have figured out how to alter the text on electronic road signs, posting notices of "Nazi zombies" and "raptors ahead" instead of legitimate messages detailing traffic problems.
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### Author:  [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/18 "2019-08-17T22:37:57Z")
> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> [Ha, this is peak Portland–spotted on SE Grand today.](https://i.imgur.com/LKZq1q0.jpg)
I do not endorse that sign at all. :mad:
I find Nazism to be a major turn-off.
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### Author:  [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2019, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/19 "2019-08-17T23:20:49Z")
So glad to be livin in a country where we got freedumz!
Gimme your tired, your poor, your bear spray and baseball bats. Your huddled masses struggling to breathe in an officer’s choke hold, your good guys with their their M16s.
Long live the freedom to assemble…peaceably.
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### Author:  [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/20 "2019-08-17T23:22:47Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Just popped over to the Fox and Breitbart sites, both of which have heds like **ANTIFA THUGS GO BERSERK; EAT GRANNIES**
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> But you knew they were gonna run those no matter what happened.
Fox - [At least 13 arrested at Portland protests as police try to keep Antifa, right-wing demonstrators apart](https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-protests-antifa-proud-boys-demonstrations-trump)
Breitbart - [Portland Police Gear Up for Antifa, Right-Wing Protests](https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/17/portland-police-gear-antifa-right-wing-protests/)
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