# Portland OR 17 August 2019 Rally of Far-Right Racist Militant Dipshits

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 13, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621 "2019-08-13T19:11:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/61 "2019-08-18T21:56:44Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Relevant to the subject I mentioned above, fascist propaganda:
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> [https://twitter.com/RespectableLaw/status/1162972206147743744](https://twitter.com/RespectableLaw/status/1162972206147743744)
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> This whole twitter thread is worth a read for anyone considering taking the “violent antifa” line seriously, anyone who trusts Andy Ngo to report on anything honestly, or anyone unsure on who the bad guys are here. The short version: Ngo reported on an “Antifa assault”. In reality, the “American Guard Utah” members opened up the doors to their bus and came out swinging, and eventually got their shit pushed back into the bus. And that “poor victim”? He was the guy who came out swinging.
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> These people are not subtle. All it takes to figure out exactly how they’re lying is to find more of the same tape. And fascists always lie.

I love how the alt-right narrative keeps trying to adapt as you go down the thread.

“They had to get out and fight! They were surrounded by super armed ANTIFA!!!”

“Never mind that now, here are some scary ANTIFA!!! dressed in black and wearing masks!!!”

“Never mind that, here some photos of the KKK who were once Democrats! Checkmate!”

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/62 "2019-08-19T12:35:37Z")

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I must say Bravo to Portland.  
They came in by the busload looking to provoke a fight. You didn’t give it to them.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/63 "2019-08-19T12:56:25Z")

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So did the white power assholes state even a pretend reason for the march? Did they have a pretend reason why they gathered in Portland?

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/64 "2019-08-19T14:08:39Z")

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I’m sure they do, but why give legs to something that everybody recognizes to be a rationalization rather than a reason?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/65 "2019-08-19T14:11:58Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> So those who travelled to Oregon from other places to hold their rally there, what are they marching for? Do they have a platform, gripes? Don’t tell me they’re marching for free speech, or some other bullshit. What is the point of this march, what are they trying to say?

> [@bobot](#):
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> Yeah, but what I meant was: What is their supposed legitimate reason? You know how at most protest marches there are people with signs? The signs usually state just what they want. “What do we want? This thing on my sign. When do we want it? Now.”  
> That kind of thing. What is the so-called thing they are asking for? Are they not even pretending to have a purpose?

> [@bobot](#):
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> So did the white power assholes state even a pretend reason for the march? Did they have a pretend reason why they gathered in Portland?

From the OP:

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> Joe Biggs, organizer of Saturday’s rally, said the attack on Ngo made him decide to hold the event with the goal of getting antifa declared a domestic terrorist organization.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/66 "2019-08-19T14:19:52Z")

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Cool, thanks. They’re not even pretending. I thought that there must have been some kind of misdirection somewhere, like on a permit or something. But nope.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/67 "2019-08-19T18:47:34Z")

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I think the worst thing about this whole debacle is that the Portland police chief is named Outlaw. That’s just damn confusing. :mad:

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/68 "2019-08-20T13:09:11Z")

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So far, I count about half a dozen names of prominent leaders for the Patriots, Proud Goys, etc. Yet no mention of prominent leaders of Antifas! Need any further proof of the liberal media conspiracy to protect them?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/portland-or-17-august-2019-rally-of-far-right-racist-militant-dipshits/838621/69 "2019-08-20T13:23:12Z")

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There is some gal that those parent’s-house-dwelling cry-on-the-internet-when-the-police-come-knocking morons fear. I can’t think of her name, so the media blackout conspiracy checks out.

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