# Positive Gun News of the Day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490 "2015-10-22T22:57:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/221 "2015-11-18T15:48:03Z")

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In other news, [Bonner County man dead after domestic incident](http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/sep/30/bonner-county-man-dead-after-domestic-incident/)

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> A man is dead after a woman shot him in what appears to be self-defense, according to the Bonner County Sheriff’s Office.
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> Deputies were called to the home in the 4800 block of Spirit Lake Cutoff Road around 11 p.m. Tuesday. A woman and her three of children fled the home during a “lethal altercation,” said Chief Deputy David Hale.
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> Early information indicates that the man had assaulted the woman, who then shot him, Hale said.

Force multiplier leveling the power imbalance.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/222 "2015-11-18T15:51:16Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Scumpup … both Bone and Starv managed to rebut me with halfway cogent points that I’m willing to let stand on their own merits. If you can’t do the same then that’s on you, not me or your old professors.

Your point, whatever it is, can’t be worth dealing with your personality. I’m not sure at this point if there is any more to it than you just enjoy being angry. For certain, I no longer care.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/223 "2015-11-18T16:50:44Z")

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Fabulous. We finally agree on something. Neither one of us cares what the other has to say. But you need to stop projecting your own anger onto me. I’m not angry, just confused at the revelry.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/224 "2015-11-18T18:43:49Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> Force multiplier leveling the power imbalance.

Only one person is left to tell the story their way. Obviously that works for you.

Meanwhile, somebody is dead. Yay.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/225 "2015-11-19T16:32:31Z")

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In other news, [SAPD: Homeowner blasts burglar with shotgun](http://www.kens5.com/story/news/crime/2015/09/30/cumberland-shooting-burglars-san-antonio-home-invasion/73078962/)

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> San Antonio Police said the two unnamed suspects broke into a man’s home in the 500 block of Cumberland Road. He met his intruders with a shotgun.
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> Investigators said the man hit one of the suspect’s over the head with a shotgun, then shot the other suspect after he claimed he had a gun.
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> Police said both suspects escaped on foot, but were picked up by family members and taken to a local hospital. One man was being treated at the Children’s Hospital of San Antonio for a head injury from the victim’s shotgun. The other suspect was taken to SAMMC with a shotgun wound.

I typically wouldn’t recommend a shotgun for indoor work since it has some size limitations that could give an attacker leverage. And I definitely wouldn’t recommend using the buttstock as a blunt object since shotguns typically are not drop safe and the impact has the potential for bad results. Sometimes you make due with what you have.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/226 "2015-11-20T16:18:23Z")

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In other news,[Man yelling ‘KCPD’ breaks into house, but flees when resident shoots at him](http://fox4kc.com/2015/10/02/man-yelling-kcpd-breaks-into-house-but-flees-when-resident-shoots-at-him/):

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> According to the police report, the victim told officers he heard the front window of his house shatter. He told them he went to check it and saw a man standing outside the window. The resident says he opened the front door and the suspect pointed a gun at him. The victim says he closed and locked the door and the suspect began trying to kick in the front door, yelling ‘KCPD.’
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> When the suspect got through the door, the resident says he retrieved his firearm and fired at the suspect, who ran off. The resident was unsure if he shot the suspect.

To think criminals wont impersonate police is shortsighted. This is one of my main objections to no-knock warrants.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2015, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/227 "2015-11-21T23:59:06Z")

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In other news, [Reseda home invasion fails as ‘victim’ shoots at robber](http://mynewsla.com/crime/2015/10/03/reseda-home-invasion-fails-as-victim-shoots-at-robber/)

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> Officers were dispatched at 12:05 a.m. to the 6600 block of Silvia Avenue, in response to a “burglary/hot prowl” call, Chambers said.
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> The victim was sleeping in his bedroom when he heard suspicious sounds coming from the kitchen/rear door area and armed himself with a handgun. He then heard “cracking sounds,” as if a door was opening, he said.
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> The homeowner then went to his kitchen, where he was about three feet from the suspect. He fired one to two shots at the suspect, who fled, the police lieutenant said.

It’s a good exercise to practice clearing your house and knowing lines of sight and where people can be encountered. DGU with no dead bodies.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/228 "2015-11-23T23:03:08Z")

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In other news, [CCPD: Man arrested on burglary charge in shooting](http://www.caller.com/news/local/crime/ccpd-fatal-shooting-was-in-self-defense-21373b2e-e181-5a71-e053-0100007f9d57-330522181.html):

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> Officers responded to a disturbance call about 7:24 p.m. Friday and found a 22-year-old woman had been shot, Senior Officer Marc Harrod said.
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> Harrod said a 23-year-old woman told officers that the shooting happened after the 22-year-old woman and a 25-year-old man showed up at her apartment, located in the 5500 block of Saratoga Boulevard.
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> The 23-year-old woman told officers that the woman at her door told her she was her boyfriend’s ex-girlfriend and was there to pick up her things. Harrod said the woman went to make a call to check with her boyfriend, and while she was on the phone the woman and the man began to assault her.
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> “When the two people went in the house, they beat her up,” Lee said. “You could hear everything. The door was wide-open.”
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> The 23-year-old woman grabbed the gun and fatally shot the other woman in the head, Harrod said. The woman was taken in for questioning, and police incorrectly announced Friday that she had been arrested on suspicion of murder. Harrod said that after questioning police determined that she acted in self-defense, and she was released Friday and it is likely that she won’t be charged with a crime.

I couldn’t tell from the article, but it seems like the resident let the two people enter while she called to verify their identity. Again, I wouldn’t advise opening the door to strangers.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/229 "2015-11-25T06:47:56Z")

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In other news, [Homeowner Fights Back, Shoots Three Suspected Robbers](http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2015/10/05/homeowner-fights-back-shoots-three-suspected-robbers/)

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> According to police, three men went into a home on the 6900 block of Rolling Creek Lane and attacked the homeowner. They said one of the men stole something from his house during the struggle before the homeowner grabbed a gun.
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> Neighbors reported hearing five gun shots. Police said that bullets hit all three suspected robbers. They said the suspects jumped into a Silver Dodge Avenger driven by a fourth man, and that the suspects stopped at an intersection by nearby Duncanville High School.
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> The three men who suffered gunshot wounds were arrested and taken to the hospital.

3 vs 1 and all three shot. I wonder if the homeowner was carrying on his person at the time - probably not.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/230 "2015-11-26T07:10:14Z")

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In other news, [Birmingham man shot after allegedly beating wife, flees to middle school for help](http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2015/10/birmingham_man_flees_to_middle.html)  
After a wife flees from her abusive husband:

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> The wife said she saw people outside one of the houses and stopped to ask for help.The husband drove by and saw her, circled the block a few times then got out to confront his wife.
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> Edwards said the homeowner intervened and asked the man to get off his property.
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> The husband allegedly refused, looked into his car’s trunk, got a brick off the ground instead and advanced toward his wife and the homeowner. He was shouting threats while moving toward them, Edwards said.
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> “The homeowner shoots the husband in the arm and the husband retreats for a short second, but the husband becomes more agitated and advances again toward the homeowner and his wife,” Edwards said.
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> The homeowner then shot the husband a second time. This time he hit him in the stomach.
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> The husband fled on foot and ended up outside Green Acres Middle School several blocks away.

Again, bricks - a poorly conceived plan.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/231 "2015-11-26T10:42:10Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> Again, bricks - a poorly conceived plan.

Brick vs gun is a bad idea anyway, but anyone who continues this strategy _after already being shot once_ is clearly not one of nature’s great thinkers.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/232 "2015-11-26T12:01:25Z")

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Shoot me once, shame on me, shoot me twice, wtf was I even thinking.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/233 "2015-11-26T13:24:50Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Shoot me once, shame on me, shoot me twice, wtf was I even thinking.

😃

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**Author:** ![Murf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Murf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Murf)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/234 "2015-11-26T13:56:43Z")

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Have you ever had a loaded gun pointed at you by someone who is desperate, possibly having mental problems, and possibly high on some illegal substance? An incident that could end your life in the blink of an eye. No matter your ideologies on gun control or lack of it, I’m pretty sure that the employees of that Waffle House and their mothers, fathers, sisters and brothers were pretty happy that armed citizen happened to be there. Yes it is a terrible shame that the whole episode had to happen. But I feel that the perpetrator brought this on himself by making a bad career choice.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/235 "2015-11-26T19:02:12Z")

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> [@Murf](#):
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> Have you ever had a loaded gun pointed at you by someone who is desperate, possibly having mental problems, and possibly high on some illegal substance?

Probably not all three, but then, he was a policeman so you never know.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/236 "2015-11-26T19:22:03Z")

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In other news, [BCPD: Man shoots would-be Craigslist robbers](http://woodtv.com/2015/10/06/bcpd-2-shot-in-related-incidents/)

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> According to the Battle Creek Police Department, 42-year-old Jon Vanderwiel and 72-year-old Robert Vanderwiel of Grand Rapids drove to Battle Creek Tuesday evening after arranging on Craigslist to buy a car. Around 8 p.m., the Vanderwiel’s arrived at the meeting place — which turned out to be an abandoned home in the 600 block of Linwood Avenue — and were jumped by three men, police said.
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> Officers said Jon Vanderwiel is licensed to carry a concealed weapon, which he drew and fired twice.
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> Two of the attackers were shot, at which point they ran away. One sustained a wound to the upper torso and was found about a block away near Woodlawn Avenue. The other was shot in the lower torso and was found in the 100 block of Broadway Boulevard.

3 vs. 2, and only one of the two was armed. Two shots, two hits. The idea that a situation with multiple assailants wouldn’t happen is not something I’d rely on.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/237 "2015-11-27T11:06:07Z")

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In other news, [Suspect Arrested After Allegedly Attacking Elderly Man](http://www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/Elderly-Man-Attacked-Suspect-Arrested-330360081.html)

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> According to Walton County Sheriff’s Officials, Justin Paul Carter entered the home of Michael and Margaret Frey on September 19. Carter asked to speak to Margaret alone, but sheriff’s deputies say Carter became angry when Michael told him no.
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> When Margaret went outside to call 911, sheriff’s officials say Carter began to attack Michael, hitting him in the face and pounding his head into a cabinet. That’s when Michael Frey shot Carter in the mouth with a .38 caliber pistol, believing his life was in danger

I can’t tell the age of the attacker, but he is clearly an adult. My guess would be between 30-40. Him vs. an elderly 74 year old. From the picture, it’s clear the gun was the equalizer.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/238 "2015-11-28T08:52:03Z")

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In other news, [Armed citizen scares off attempted robber in Hermitage:](http://wkrn.com/2015/10/09/armed-citizen-scares-off-attempted-robber-in-hermitage/)

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> Police told News 2 the woman was meeting a man who owed her money. When the man arrived with a friend, he reportedly told her he had a gun and ordered her to withdraw money from the ATM.
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> An armed citizen in the area heard the woman’s screams for help and was able to scare the suspects away.
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> The suspects ran to a car parked at a nearby gas station and drove away.

Another DGU with no shots fired.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/239 "2015-11-28T15:59:49Z")

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Craigslist: In the news again.

[Woman shoots and kills would-be Craigslist robber](http://www.wbtv.com/story/30611169/deputies-woman-shoots-and-kills-would-be-craigslist-robber)

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> Investigators say the would-be robbers pulled out a gun and demanded money when they met the couple at an Aiken gas station where they planned to buy a car listed on the Internet site.
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> Deputies say while the gun was pointed at the man, his girlfriend pulled her own weapon and shot at the robbers.

DGU +1, Criminal -1.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/240 "2015-11-30T02:15:29Z")

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In other news, [Sheriff: Woman pulls gun on ex-boyfriend to defend herself](http://www.wafb.com/story/30207162/sheriff-woman-pulls-gun-on-ex-boyfriend-to-defend-herself)

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> The Gonzales Police Department helped the victim with applying for a temporary restraining order against Beaureau. Officials say Beaureau has been previously arrested on a number of charges, including simple battery, domestic abuse battery and possession of marijuana.
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> On Wednesday, September 30, while sitting in her car near the courthouse parking lot, Beaureau blocked the victim in with his truck and threatened her. While on the phone with 911, the victim pulled out her handgun and told Beaureau she would fire if he stepped any closer.
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> Beaureau was arrested on September 30 by the Gonzales Police Department and charged with improper telephone communications, stalking, and threatening a police officer. He also had a bench warrant for his arrest for failure to appear in court.

Another DGU with no shots fired. Good thing that restraining order worked so well!

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