# Positive Gun News of the Day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490 "2015-10-22T22:57:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/301 "2015-12-07T13:55:48Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Even if that were true, he’d be no more than following the lead set by people from the anti-gun side. They’re all about punishing gun owners for things that they might do or crimes that might be committed with guns they own(ed).

Preventing terrorists from obtaining assault weapons is not the same as shooting a fleeing burglar in the back.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/302 "2015-12-07T14:37:55Z")

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Supreme Court [rejects challenge to assault weapons ban](http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-07/gun-advocates-rejected-by-u-s-supreme-court-on-assault-weapons) by a 7-2 margin

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> The U.S. Supreme Court steered clear of a politically charged fight over gun rights, turning away a challenge to a law banning semi-automatic assault weapons and large-capacity magazines in a Chicago suburb.
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> The justices left intact a federal appeals court decision that said the Highland Park, Illinois, restrictions don’t infringe on the constitutional right to bear arms. The appeals court said residents have plenty of legal self-defense options, including handguns and other types of long guns. Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas voted to hear the case.

Positive gun news!

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/303 "2015-12-07T15:19:15Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Even if that were true, he’d be no more than following the lead set by people from the anti-gun side. They’re all about punishing gun owners for things that they might do or crimes that might be committed with guns they own(ed).

That’s a false equivalence. “Punishing” someone by requiring them to follow the same restrictions every other person follows isn’t a punishment. Are we currently punishing folks who want to use heroin by not allowing them to use heroin?

But even if it were a punishment, stipulating that, folks in favor of gun control want to punish people by commandeering part of their property. That’s still not equivalent to punishing someone by killing them.

Whatever other arguments there are against gun control–and my time on this board has convinced me that there are some decent arguments against many forms of gun control–this argument won’t hunt.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/304 "2015-12-07T16:39:18Z")

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In other news,[Two charged with burglary in home invasion shooting](http://txktoday.com/news/two-charged-with-burglary-in-home-invasion-shooting/)

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> During the course of the investigation, detectives learned that Dakyree Hawkins, 20, and Keonte Ingram, 18, forced entry into the home of Andre Harris in the 500 block of King Street. The two fled the scene after Harris, who was home at the time, fired at them with a handgun. Hawkins was later found by officers as he lay in the road, suffering from gunshot wounds, in the 600 block of Celeste Street.

2v1 and the one prevailed.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/305 "2015-12-08T14:56:53Z")

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[Positive Alligator News.](http://spacecoastdaily.com/2015/12/bcso-suspected-palm-bay-burglar-killed-eaten-by-alligator-after-fleeing-deputies/)

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/306 "2015-12-08T16:27:53Z")

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In other news, [Man shot after attempted home invasion in Denver](http://www.9news.com/story/news/crime/2015/10/14/denver-attempted-home-invasion/73914866/)

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> According to Denver Police, around 4:15 a.m., they received a report of a possible break in and shooting in the intersection of South Wolff Street and West Exposition Avenue. A short time later, a man walked into a local hospital with a gunshot wound. He had non-life-threatening injuries.
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> The homeowner reportedly heard someone hopping the fence when he was home with two kids. The homeowner called their relatives who showed up at the property. One of the relatives shot the alleged intruder who was in the homeowner’s backyard.

I wonder how close the relative lived.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/307 "2015-12-08T17:20:46Z")

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Me, I wonder why shooting some guy who hopped over a fence is positive news. There are times when lethal self-defense is warranted. This is not one of them.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/308 "2015-12-09T17:04:12Z")

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In other news, [Harvey man shot girlfriend’s ex after he stormed house: JPSO](http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2015/10/douglas_moody_harvey_ex.html)

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> A Harvey man shot his girlfriend’s ex-boyfriend in the chest with a shotgun after the ex-boyfriend forced his way into the couple’s home on Sunday night (Oct. 11), authorities said. Douglas Moody, 31, of Belle Chasse, suffered wounds to his chest, neck and head, according to a Jefferson Parish Sheriff’s Office arrest report.
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> Moody’s former girlfriend called 911 on Sunday about 11:15 p.m. and told operators he had contacted her several times threatening to harm her and her new boyfriend. Moody – the father of her child – told the woman he planned to drag her out of her house, kick her teeth in and kill her new boyfriend, the arrest report said.
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> She frantically called 911 a second time, crying. A JPSO report didn’t indicate what she said in that call. Within minutes, operators received another call, this time from the woman’s new boyfriend. He told operators that he had just shot a man, according to the report.

When seconds count, police can’t be everywhere.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/309 "2015-12-10T16:30:29Z")

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In other news, [Pastor questioned after shooting, killing man in Detroit church](http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/detroit/pastor-shoots-kills-man-who-threatened-him-inside-small-detroit-church)

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> Dolnut said the man walked inside the church with a brick, and threatened the pastor. That’s when the pastor pulled out a gun and opened fire, hitting the man. He was taken to the hospital where he later died, according to police.

According to the story, there was allegedley adultery involved. What is it with bricks?

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/310 "2015-12-10T16:32:44Z")

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A pastor of my acquaintance, who carries a .38, explained to me that he has the authority “to preach, to teach, to marry, and to bury.” Sounds like brick-boy ran into just such a pastor.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/311 "2015-12-10T17:42:14Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> In other news, [Pastor questioned after shooting, killing man in Detroit church](http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/detroit/pastor-shoots-kills-man-who-threatened-him-inside-small-detroit-church)  
> According to the story, there was allegedley adultery involved. What is it with bricks?

I blame the Masons.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/312 "2015-12-12T02:49:24Z")

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In other news, [trigger-happy moron loses her permit](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/12/11/mich-woman-who-shot-at-shoplifters-gets-18-months-probation-vows-to-never-help-anybody-again/?tid=pm_national_pop_b):

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> Tatiana Duva-Rodriguez thought she was doing the right thing when she pulled out her pistol and fired at a pair of shoplifters as they fled from a Home Depot near Detroit.
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> She wasn’t, at least in the eyes of the law.
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> On Wednesday, a Michigan judge sentenced Duva-Rodriguez to 18 months of probation and stripped the 46-year-old of her concealed gun permit.
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> Duva-Rodriguez didn’t manage to stop the shoplifters when she rattled off several rounds outside an Auburn Hills Home Depot on Oct. 6, although she did flatten one of their tires.  
> …  
> “I learned my lesson that I will never help anybody again.”

She, at least, learned that the only thing that can stop an inflated tire is a good guy with a gun.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/313 "2015-12-12T18:32:05Z")

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In other news, [Man shot in face with shotgun

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> ]([http://www.fox35orlando.com/home/34586924-story](http://www.fox35orlando.com/home/34586924-story))The shooting victim’s 18-year-old son, Victor Martinez, told officials that the masked man started screaming at him and hitting him in the head with the butt of a gun.
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> When Jesus Martinez came out of the house to see what was going on, Gallegos shot at him, according to deputies.
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> Deputies say Martinez shot back at the Gallegos with a handgun.
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> The suspect was able to get into his truck and drive away.
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> Jesus Martinez had shotgun wounds to the face, and was taken by air to the hospital.

This one was confusing at first because two people are identified as Martinez.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/314 "2015-12-14T08:59:16Z")

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In other news, [President Obama signs three constructive gun measures](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/12/10/president-obama-signs-three-constructive-gun-measures/)

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> The day before Thanksgiving, President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), S.1356. The primary purpose of the act was to provide funds for operation of the U.S. military. However, the act also includes several other provisions to protect Second Amendment rights, …
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> The first measure, in Section 315 of the NDAA, prohibits an administrative ban on lead ammunition. …
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> In 2009, a jihadist attacked the Fort Hood military base in Texas. He murdered 13 unarmed victims and wounded 30. The military personnel there were defenseless, so the criminal was not stopped until military police arrived. Section 526 of the NDAA takes a first step toward remedying the dangerous disarmament of our armed forces:
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> SEC. 526. Establishment of process by which members of the Armed Forces may carry an appropriate firearm on a military installation. …
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> NDAA Section 1087 sets up a procedure allowing the transfer of up to 10,000 surplus handguns to the CMP. These handguns are .45-caliber model “1911” pistols (named for their year of invention). For the military, these pistols have been replaced by the 9mm Beretta. The 1911 pistols are now collectors items, being warehoused at a cost of $200,000 per year. Selling them via the CMP will reduce this expense and raise revenue.

The lead ammo item is a bit more complicated, but this is a good thing since a ban on lead ammo combined with armor piercing restrictions was seen as a possible avenue to ban large amounts of ammo. This prevents that.

Thanks, President Obama!

And in other news, [Man Killed During Alleged Burglary](http://www.wtok.com/home/headlines/Man-Killed-During-Alleged-Burglary-333937771.html)

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> Investigators say the homeowner was upstairs when she heard someone trying to break into her back door. Police say, the person made it inside and the homeowner saw him. They say when she didn’t recognize the person, she shot him. Police say the burglar managed to make it out of the front door before collapsing on the sidewalk.

Breaking into an occupied home is risky.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/315 "2015-12-15T15:57:45Z")

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In other news, [Armed intruder shot during West Plains home invasion](http://www.kspr.com/news/local/armed-intruder-shot-during-west-plains-home-invasion/21051620_35911272)

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> Police say when they responded to the shots fired call, they found one man outside the home who they arrested, and another man inside who had been shot by one of the residents.

This story is pretty sparse. I find that’s the case with many DGU stories as they don’t tend to get much coverage or follow up.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/316 "2015-12-16T18:00:44Z")

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In other news, [Victim shoots suspect multiple times during attempted robbery](http://www.thv11.com/story/news/2015/10/16/vicitm-shoots-suspect-multiple-times-during-attempted-robbery/74097722/)

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> The Pulaski County Sheriff’s Office arrested three individuals on Friday after they were forced to call 911 because one of their own had been shot by the person they were trying to rob.
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> At approximately 3:16 p.m. Friday, October 16, deputies received a call regarding a gunshot victim. Deputies located Mauricio King, 23, at the Shell gas station off Dixon Road near Interstate 530. He was suffering from multiple gunshot wounds. King along with Leonard Quinton Braxton, 19, Annamarie Blair, 19, and Antwaun Branscomb, 17 all stated that King was just walking down Arch Street when he was shot.
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> After further investigation, officials discovered that all four individuals provided false statements. More recent reports state that the group was trying to rob the occupants of a residence located in the 16,000 block of Windham Drive and there was a struggle. One of the victims in the residence pulled out a gun and shot King several times.

Had to call 911 for themselves after a failed robbery. That’s got to be embarrassing.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/317 "2015-12-17T15:40:20Z")

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In other news, [CPL holder shoots armed robbers after being mugged](http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/36305746-story)

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> One of the suspects reached into the victim’s pocket and stole $220. The trio became excited about the money they just nabbed and became distracted - at that moment the CPL holder pulled out his gun and fired.
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> He hit the16-year-old in the chest and the 17-year-old in the leg. The 19-year-old took off running.
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> The 23-year-old CPL holder called Detroit police. FOX 2 learned the two wounded suspects went to find medical help at Sinai Grace Hospital across the street from the scene. They told the ER they were walking down the street when they were held up and shot.
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> But investigators put it together and realized they had their suspects. One of the teens eventually confessed to this crime and others and further evidence was found on their Facebook pages.

3 vs. 1 and the one prevailed.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/318 "2015-12-17T21:30:24Z")

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Gas station clerk fights off gun-toting robber [with shoe](http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=20e_1450354169#iAzSCbSAu1vsm9K3.99), who needs a gun?

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/319 "2015-12-18T15:55:41Z")

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In other news, [73-Year-Old San Francisco Man Shoots Burglary Suspect In Knee](http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/10/19/73-year-old-san-francisco-man-shoots-burglary-suspect-in-knee/)

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> At about 11:45 p.m. on Sunday, the victim was in his home in the 700 block of Bay Street, near Ghirardelli Square, when he heard an intruder in his home.
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> He grabbed his handgun, exited his bedroom, and then headed downstairs to see who was in his home, according to police.
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> The victim shot the suspect, described as a man in his 50s, in the knee and then guided him out of his residence, police said.

Elderly man able to defend himself with force multiplier.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/320 "2015-12-19T18:35:41Z")

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In other news, [Store clerk, one suspect shot in attempted robbery](http://www.khou.com/story/news/crime/2015/10/18/store-clerk-one-suspect-shot-in-attempted-robbery/74172214/)

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> Police say two men wearing ski masks entered a Texaco convenience store in the 5400 block of Airport Boulevard around 1:30 a.m. Sunday and demanded money while holding the clerk at gunpoint. Police say the clerk grabbed a shotgun under the counter before he and the suspects exchanged gunfire.
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> Officials say the clerk and one of the two suspects was shot. Both suspects ran
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> from the scene, and Houston Fire Department officials were called to a nearby street where one of the suspects was located. Officials say he was transported to Ben Taub Hospital in stable condition.

Picked the wrong convenience store to rob. There is no mention of the condition of the store clerk so I assume the injury was not severe.

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