# Positive Gun News of the Day **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490 "2015-10-22T22:57:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/401 "2016-01-25T18:37:22Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > One would think so, but the fact is **all agencies of the federal government have been legally prohibited from collecting data on gun violence.** No wonder you are having trouble finding the numbers; someone doesn’t want you or anyone else to see them. Google the Dickey Amendment for more information. The above bolded statement is false. * * * And sticking to the theme of the thread, in other news, [Man Who Shot, Killed Intruder Is A Former Police Officer](http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/11/06/man-who-shot-killed-intruder-is-a-former-police-officer/) > [@](#): > > Just before 2 a.m. Friday police responded to a call of what they say was a prowler who forced his way into a home. The owner, Jason Morrill told CBS4 that he is a former cop but declined to discuss the case any further. > … > According to communication by dispatchers who took the 911 call, Morrill armed himself and put on a tactical vest for protection. > > Denver police spokesperson Raquel Lopez says when officers arrived they found the suspected prowler with a gunshot wound. He died at the scene. Prowler chose his target poorly. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/402 "2016-01-25T19:20:38Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Post us a link to your new thread, please. 🙂 [Here it is](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=782118). 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/403 "2016-01-26T19:23:09Z")
In other news, P[olice investigating shooting of would-be armed robber](http://www.ajc.com/news/news/crime-law/police-investigating-shooting-of-would-be-armed-ro/npJHZ/) > [@](#): > > The woman called 911 and told the operator she shot the would-be thief multiple times near a dead end on Holly Road. Atlanta police said she told them she was checking her mail when the man approached her, holding a gun to her head. Reaching into her purse as if to collect money, she instead grabbed her gun. > > A weapon was found on the suspect, whose name has not been released, according to Atlanta police. This article is pretty sparse. I would prefer to carry on my person, rather than in a bag myself. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/404 "2016-01-26T20:29:50Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > In other news, P[olice investigating shooting of would-be armed robber](http://www.ajc.com/news/news/crime-law/police-investigating-shooting-of-would-be-armed-ro/npJHZ/) > > I would prefer to carry on my person, rather than in a bag myself. It did just fine for her. “Gimme your dough!” “Sure, I’ll get it out of my purse…” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/405 "2016-01-26T21:05:25Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > It did just fine for her. > “Gimme your dough!” > “Sure, I’ll get it out of my purse…” > 🙂 That’s how it’ll have to go for me. As a female, I’ve rarely got pockets or roomy clothes. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/406 "2016-01-26T21:49:27Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > That’s how it’ll have to go for me. As a female, I’ve rarely got pockets or roomy clothes. You get a holster, and a Bedazzler… ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/407 "2016-01-26T22:04:38Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > That’s how it’ll have to go for me. As a female, I’ve rarely got pockets or roomy clothes. There are bra holsters out there - Flashbang makes one. I’m not convinced of the safety of them after watching some vids of their deployment but that’s a preference item. I think a IWB holster like the Crossbreed models would work on most folks. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/408 "2016-01-27T00:49:10Z")
In other news, [Police: Phoenix homeowner shot suspected burglar in leg](http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/breaking/2015/11/09/police-phoenix-homeowner-shot-suspected-burglar-leg/75445752/) > [@](#): > > A police spokesman, Sgt. Trent Crump, said the homeowner woke up around 5 a.m. to the sounds of a man shuffling through a shed in his back yard, located near Interstate 10 and 59th Avenue. > > The man told investigators that he confronted the suspected burglar, who charged him and tried to gain entry to his home, Crump said. > > The homeowner fired at least one shot at the burglar, striking him in the leg. Crump said the man sustained non-life-threatening injuries and was taken into custody. Breaking into people’s property is risky business. DGU with no deaths. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/409 "2016-01-27T16:16:52Z")
In other news, [Tulsa Police: Homeowner Shoots, Kills Intruder](http://www.newson6.com/story/30465496/tulsa-police-fire-responding-to-shooting) > [@](#): > > Police said a homeowner shot an intruder who kicked in the door of the home in the 300 block of East 27th Court North around 10:30 a.m. Sunday. A man who lives at the home shot the intruder in the chest, according to Corporal Phil Snow. > > The man then managed to run to a vehicle and drive a short distance before hitting a parked car about halfway down the block. > > Police said the man was taken to the hospital where he was pronounced dead. He had been shot four times, records show. 4 hits and was still able to retreat and drive for a brief time. Shot placement is critical. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/410 "2016-01-27T17:35:27Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > In other news, [Tulsa Police: Homeowner Shoots, Kills Intruder](http://www.newson6.com/story/30465496/tulsa-police-fire-responding-to-shooting) > > 4 hits and was still able to retreat and drive for a brief time. Shot placement is critical. The story does not mention the caliber of the weapon. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/411 "2016-01-27T18:09:56Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > The story does not mention the caliber of the weapon. With underpowered weapons, placement is even more critical. ---
**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/412 "2016-01-28T06:21:00Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > …retreat… > > …Shot placement is critical. You’re really a wannabe soldier, aren’t you? You’ve got the lingo and the dehumanization down pat. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/413 "2016-01-28T16:32:14Z")
In other news, [Deputies: Retired JSO officer shoots bank robber](http://www.news4jax.com/news/local/deputies-retired-jso-officer-shoots-bank-robber-) > [@](#): > > Sheriff David Shoar said Duong pushed a note demanding money to a teller and then left the bank at the corner of State Road 13 and Race Track Road with an undisclosed amount of cash. > > Police said Kellam was waiting in the drive-through teller line and saw Duong running from the bank after the robbery. He chased Duong to a residential area on Bishop Estates Road behind the bank and confronted him near Teakwood Court. The two briefly fought, and the altercation ended when, according to witnesses, Duong tried to pull a handgun from his waistband and Kellam drew his handgun and fired several times, hitting Duong at least twice, deputies said. DGU with no deaths. Also interesting was again as in the previous incident, after being shot twice, the bank robber was able to retreat to where he attempted to escape via car. He was then detained by other police. Two hits were insufficient to immediately incapacitate. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/414 "2016-01-28T16:35:26Z")
> [@Esox\_Lucius](#): > > You’re really a wannabe soldier, aren’t you? You’ve got the lingo and the dehumanization down pat. How would you phrase the same thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/415 "2016-01-28T18:36:36Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > How would you phrase the same thoughts? “He can’t shoot worth sh-t.” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/416 "2016-01-28T18:46:50Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > “He can’t shoot worth sh-t.” 🙂 Yes, that is a possibility. Let’s put a pin in that. I think we should also consider “He didn’t use enough gun.” ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/417 "2016-01-28T20:46:19Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > I think we should also consider “He didn’t use enough gun.” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/418 "2016-01-28T20:49:39Z")
[Va. will once again recognize concealed carry permits from other states](https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/mcauliffe-to-restore-handgun-reciprocity-in-deal-with-republicans/2016/01/28/6f8c0240-c5d8-11e5-9693-933a4d31bcc8_story.html) Last month, the Attorney General of Virginia essentially rescinded CCW reciprocity for most states that were deemed to not comply with Virginia’s standards. Since that time, there has been much consternation and protest. That changed yesterday when Governor McAuliffe reversed course and restored reciprocity with nearly all states. This is good news and another defeat for McAuliffe. He did manage to extract some concessions, all of which are not really concessions. They are: > [@](#): > > If an individual’s Virginia concealed-carry permit is revoked, a permit from another state will not be honored in Virginia — a practice known as “state shopping.” > > State police must be present at all gun shows to administer background checks in private sales of guns on a voluntary basis. > > Anyone subject to a permanent protective order for a domestic violence offence will be prohibited from carrying a firearm for the two-year life of the order. Revocation of a permit for cause shouldn’t lead to forum shopping to get an out of state permit, so that’s fine. Voluntary background checks are no problem. And federal law already prohibits someone with a PPO so that’s nothing either. I think the Attorney General and Governor just folded that loser of a hand they dealt themselves. It does get better, in response to the previous maneuver, the Virginia legislature has put forward a number of bills that are currently moving forward, including constitutional carry. I’m not optimistic that it will eventually pass anymore since out of state CCWs will be recognized. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/419 "2016-01-29T20:44:34Z")
In other news, [Police: Macon man shot, killed Sunday was trying to rob men](http://www.13wmaz.com/story/news/local/macon/2015/11/09/gray-hwy-shooting/75441136/) > [@](#): > > The suspects forced Shedd and Edenfield into a truck and drove to an ATM in an attempt to get the victims to withdraw cash, the news release states. > > When that didn’t work, the suspects drove the victims back to the area behind the O’Reilly’s. The suspects ordered the men to call their boss, 34-year-old Brian Hinkle, telling him to bring money. > > Hinkle showed up, the news release states. > > The suspects ordered Edenfield to walk over to Hinkle’s vehicle and get the money, according to the news release. > > Diadell reportedly began running towards Hinkle and Edenfield firing his gun at them. > > Hinkle, who had his gun, returned fire striking Diadell three times, the news release states. This just seems like a really poorly conceived plan, introducing a third potential victim who knows you are up to no good and has time to prepare. The 2nd suspect that didn’t end up dead turned himself in. 2vs2 unarmed turned into 2 vs. 3 with one of the three armed. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/420 "2016-01-29T21:19:53Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > This just seems like a really poorly conceived plan, introducing a third potential victim who knows you are up to no good and has time to prepare. The 2nd suspect that didn’t end up dead turned himself in. 2vs2 unarmed turned into 2 vs. 3 with one of the three armed. The popular remark seems appropriate; If they were intelligent, they would have jobs. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=22)