# Positive Gun News of the Day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490 "2015-10-22T22:57:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/561 "2016-03-14T23:18:31Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> One of the guns being used was the initial problem. A different gun was used as a solution.
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That’s still not a net positive.

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**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/562 "2016-03-14T23:24:06Z")

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Didn’t see this one in this thread.

Seattle area. Sunday March 13, 2016

Hatchet wielding suspect entered a 7-11 and swung at a customer and the clerk, wounding the clerk. A regular customer with a concealed carry permit was in for his morning coffee and saw the assault. Customer shot the hatchet man.  
[Customer kills hatchet-wielding store attacker in Wash.](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/customer-shoots-dead-hatchet-wielding-store-attacker-washington-state/)  
DGU. One suspect dead.

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**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/563 "2016-03-14T23:50:07Z")

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> [@Wolf333](#):
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> That’s still not a net positive.

It is when the instigator / aggressor / intruder is stopped with no harm to the residents.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/564 "2016-03-15T00:01:38Z")

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> [@Wolf333](#):
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> That’s still not a net positive.

This line of thought is valid only if we all fervently believe that if the deceased had had no gun, there would have been no incident at all.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/565 "2016-03-15T01:35:44Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> This line of thought is valid only if we all fervently believe that if the deceased had had no gun, there would have been no incident at all.

🙂

Are homeowners with a gun generally better shooters than crooks?

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/566 "2016-03-15T15:45:59Z")

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In other news, [Suspect arrested in Dec 16 attempted robbery at doctor’s office](http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/1-shot-at-west-las-vegas-business)

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> Mario Chism, 43, was arrested on Dec. 30 for an attempted robbery at a doctor’s office near Charleston Boulevard and Rancho Drive. A female suspect was also involved, but was shot by an employee and later died of her injuries.
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> The incident occurred shortly after 7 p.m. Police say the two suspects broke into the office and forced a doctor, an employee and a patient into one of the rooms. Metro says the suspects pistol-whipped the doctor.
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> The employee, however, got loose, located a gun and shot the suspects as they ran down a flight of stairs.
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> Emergency responders took the doctor to the hospital. The doctor’s injuries are not considered life threatening. Neither the employee who shot the intruders nor the patient were injured.

DGU with 1 death. Carrying on your person may be a better option than having a firearm stored someplace else.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/567 "2016-03-16T15:32:00Z")

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In other news, [Dallas woman scares off brazen burglar with gunshot](http://www.wfaa.com/news/dallas-woman-shoots--burglar--scare-him-off/22330012)

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> Miller knew something was wrong. First, she called her husband on his cell. Then, she grabbed her gun, locked herself in her bathroom, and called 911.  
> …  
> “He kicked the bathroom door once, and I fired the shot,” she said.
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> She put a bullet right through the middle of the door, but Miller was prepared to unload if he kept coming.
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> “If he was coming in, I was going to clear the magazine and protect myself,” the woman said.  
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> Dallas police arrived quickly, but the suspect ran off. However, he left behind footprints on several doors.

DGU with no deaths. There’s video of the person breaking into the house and running off as well. Almost assuredly bad things were avoided here.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/568 "2016-03-17T15:34:31Z")

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In other news, Deputies: [2 home invasion suspects shot in Alamance County; 4 face charges](http://www.wxii12.com/news/Deputies-2-home-invasion-suspects-shot-in-Alamance-County-4-face-charges/37064742)

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> Four men face charges following a weekend home burglary in which two of the suspects were shot, deputies said.  
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> Alamance County deputies said someone within the home fired multiple shots at the suspects after they unlawfully entered the home. Marshall and Woods were found at the hospital, while Pitt was found hiding in an apartment closet about a block away on Lakeside Avenue, deputies said.

DGU with no deaths. Four people attempt home invasion and are repelled by one resident with a shotgun. Two burglars made their way to a hospital, while another was found hiding in a closet in a nearby apartment.

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**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/569 "2016-03-17T19:08:04Z")

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Wonder why the resident seems to have left the scene? That was the implication I got.

Bad guys robbing bad guys?

Still a good shoot IMO.

If the resident is a bad guy, this shooting should not add to his trouble. IMO

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/570 "2016-03-17T19:28:20Z")

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> [@GusNSpot](#):
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> Wonder why the resident seems to have left the scene? That was the implication I got.

“A shotgun that the victim or victims used to defend themselves was recovered, deputies said.”

I think they are saying nothing that would identify the victim(s).  
It sounds in most of these reports that the police take your gun if you shoot someone. What if someone’s father or brother comes back looking for you?

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/571 "2016-03-18T02:55:17Z")

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[How Else Was ‘He Gonna Get His Money?’: Relatives Outraged After Homeowner Shoots, Kills Burglary Suspect](http://www.dailywire.com/news/4144/relatives-killed-17-year-old-home-invader-how-else-robert-kraychik)

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> You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” Harris (the burglar’s cousin) continued. “You have to understand … how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point of view.

Naturally he was going to use any money he gained from the burglary for school clothes.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/572 "2016-03-18T10:49:58Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> It sounds in most of these reports that the police take your gun if you shoot someone. What if someone’s father or brother comes back looking for you?

I don’t know anyone (myself included) who owns one gun. I own one handgun and two shotguns, for example.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/573 "2016-03-18T15:08:24Z")

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In other news, [Man shot trying to break into Richland County home](http://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article50695105.html)

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> Burglary suspect, Eric Smith, was shot around 2 p.m. at 1234 Universal Drive in southeast Richland County, sheriff’s department spokesman Curtis Wilson said.
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> The homeowner told investigators that he got his gun and fired shots after the suspect, who had failed to get in the front door, went around to the rear door and tried to gain entrance. Smith was hit in the lower body and taken to a local hospital with non-life threatening injuries, Wilson said.

DGU with no deaths.

And in still more news, [Neighbor Stops Home Invaders by Shooting One and Holding Other at Gunpoint](http://www.wsaz.com/home/headlines/Neighbor-Stops-Home-Invaders-by-Shooting-One-and-Holding-Other-at-Gunpoint-236891461.html)

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> Two men breaking into a family’s home while they were out of town were caught by a neighbor. Now, one of them is in jail while the other recovers from a gunshot wound. That’s according to West Virginia State Police.  
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> Troopers say Justin Blair and Jimmy Walker kicked in the door – causing an alarm to go off. They say the homeowner received the alert and called a neighbor to go check it out.
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> The neighbor caught the men and shot Walker in the abdomen. He was able to hold both men at gunpoint until police arrived.
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> Blair was placed in handcuffs and put into a cruiser, but while the trooper was attending to Walker – Blair kicked out the window and escaped. He was later found, arrested and taken to the hospital. He has been released and is now in jail.

2v1 and the one prevailed. Another DGU with no deaths.

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**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/574 "2016-03-18T22:13:06Z")

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Need a floor ring or attaches leg cuffs in the police cars around there.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/575 "2016-03-19T02:03:36Z")

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> [@GusNSpot](#):
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> Need a floor ring or attaches leg cuffs in the police cars around there.

Pardon?

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**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/576 "2016-03-19T07:35:42Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Pardon?

A ring & chain or leg irons or some quick way to lock a perp to the car. Would save on window replacement also.

Just an idea.

It does read kinda strange as I look at the post now. I knew what I meant. LOL

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/577 "2016-03-19T13:18:22Z")

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And call the cops to come pick them up. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/578 "2016-03-19T19:04:14Z")

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In other news,[Burglar flees after threatened with gun](http://www.thekansan.com/article/20151221/NEWS/151229968)

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> A burglar was nearly shot in a Newton home over the weekend — entering the home through an unlocked door on the main floor while a family was watching television in the basement of the home at about 8:55 p.m. Dec. 19 on Spring Lake Drive.  
> The family was downstairs when they heard someone walking around upstairs. One person went upstairs to confront who was there. A scuffle ensued and the homeowner brought out a handgun.  
> “As soon as he saw the gun, he was gone,” said Lt. Scott Powell with the Newton Police Department.

DGU with no shots fired.

In still other news, [Columbia man scares off home intruder with gun](http://www.abc17news.com/news/columbia-man-scares-off-home-intruder-with-gun/37067552)

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> A man was sleeping in the home when his dogs started barking and woke him up, according to Latisha Stroer with the Columbia Police Department.
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> The man found the front door of his home open and went back to his room to get his gun, Stroer said.
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> ABC 17 News talked to the homeowner Monday who did not want to be identified, but said that is when he saw a man standing near his front door.
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> “I grabbed my pistol and I came to the front door, and he was still standing near my front door,” he said. “At that time I put one round into the ground.”
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> The homeowner said the man quickly ran away and he called 911. But he does not know how the intruder opened the door.

DGU with no injuries. I advise against warning shots in general.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/579 "2016-03-19T19:19:47Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> DGU with no injuries. I advise against warning shots in general.

I can’t shoot him unless he is inside the house.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/580 "2016-03-19T19:25:44Z")

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Inside the house or out isn’t the controlling factor. Reasonable fear of great bodily harm is the controlling factor. This can occur if an assailant is either inside or outside. If an assailant is forcibly inside, then most states have a presumption of reasonable fear of great bodily harm.

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