# Positive Gun News of the Day **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490 "2015-10-22T22:57:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/601 "2016-03-26T18:09:01Z")
Good looking weapon… Concealed carry is going to be a problem IMO. he he he Hope you got lots of ammo also or you will be broke in a week. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/602 "2016-03-26T20:45:59Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > So from my grandmother, chosen by my father, he surprised me with a [Savage Arms Model 10 FCP HS Precision](https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1581/25982797901_5afcec2054_n.jpg) in .308. I haven’t used it yet, but am planning a trip with my father to break it in this summer. Nice! I’ve never fired a scoped rifle that had much of a kick. Is trauma from the scope something you need to consider? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/603 "2016-03-26T20:48:12Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > What could be sillier than a Republican National Convention which bans guns? And yet that’s what we may end up with if petitioners don’t succeed. > > Join the 20,000 Americans who have already signed a petition to let Republican delegates feel safe at what may be the most important convention in decades. > > Opinion differs among petitioners as to whether the guns are needed to cope with Cleveland street thugs, lunatics, ISIS terrorists, or delegates of an opposite persuasion, but whatever the specific need, it will certainly be deplorable if Republicans are forced to convene without their guns. This is a warning. Call it hijacking, threadshitting, trolling or all of the above. This post is out of place in this thread. If you want to Pit Republicans or the NRA you know where to go. Don’t do it here. ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/604 "2016-03-26T21:15:31Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Nice! > > I’ve never fired a scoped rifle that had much of a kick. Is trauma from the scope something you need to consider? You definitely need to consider it as you move up the energy / recoil ladder. The key is to hold the butt of the stock firmly against your shoulder, as well as have at least about two inches of eye relief from the back of the scope. I used a. 30-06 rifle to hunt deer from age 12, so I was used to fairly stout recoil as a teenager. FF to college, where I took rifle shooting as a club sport, where we shot .22LR. After shooting thousands of rounds of. 22 three times a week, I went home to sight in my deer rifle for hunting. Well, I was so accustomed to shooting the. 22, I forgot about holding the. 30-06 tight against my shoulder, and held it loosely like I had been doing with the. 22 rifles. The first shot left me with a bleeding half circle above my right eye, after the scope came back and slammed me. I was also dazed for a little while. My uncle willed some rifles to my brother and I, including a .375 H&H magnum, a bona fide elephant gun. I still haven’t shot it, but if I do, you can bet I’ll hold it nice and tight against my shoulder. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/605 "2016-03-26T21:54:04Z")
Thank you for this thread, **Bone**. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/606 "2016-03-27T04:39:53Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Nice! > > I’ve never fired a scoped rifle that had much of a kick. Is trauma from the scope something you need to consider? Yes - it is. As Orwell notes, if you are too close you’re going to have a very bad day. Tight against the shoulder with plenty of eye relief is the order of the day. “Plenty” will vary with different shooters, and I think it’s one of those things that’s a matter of personal preference. Obviously if you’re having impact trauma that’s not enough 🙂 I tend to think 3-4 inch is more on the safe side. > [@GusNSpot](#): > > Hope you got lots of ammo also or you will be broke in a week. It came with 2 boxes of 20 ☹ Can’t complain. Though my practice of keeping 5-10K rounds of every caliber I own will have to be relaxed for a bit. I think I’ll need to build up to it. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/607 "2016-03-27T07:02:46Z")
In other news, [Polk deputies: Homeowner fatally shoots intruder](http://www.tbo.com/news/polk-deputies-homeowner-fatally-shoots-intruder-20160101/) > [@](#): > > Deputies said that at 6:30 a.m. Friday, Chevez Antwann Fiason unlawfully entered a residence at 2235 Chestnut Hills Drive. Fiason then fired shots at two people inside and was shot by the homeowner, deputies said. There were no other reported injuries, “Forcing your way into an occupied residence is a bold and foolish decision,” Sheriff Grady Judd said in a news release. “If you are foolish enough to break into someone’s home, you can expect to be shot in Polk County.” DGU with one death. The intruder was released from prison less than 1 year from when he was killed. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/608 "2016-03-27T07:31:34Z")
> [@Orwell](#): > > , a bona fide elephant gun. I still haven’t shot it, but if I do, you can bet I’ll hold it nice and tight against my shoulder. I thought you braced those against a tree! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/609 "2016-03-27T13:20:16Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > Though my practice of keeping 5-10K rounds of every caliber I own will have to be relaxed for a bit. I think I’ll need to build up to it. What is the shelf life of ammunition? ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/610 "2016-03-27T15:49:01Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > What is the shelf life of ammunition? Several years, if kept dry. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/611 "2016-03-27T16:36:23Z")
Actually, a century or more if kept dry. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/612 "2016-03-28T14:33:12Z")
In other news, [Business owner shoots robbery suspect threatening customer](http://legacy.wfaa.com/story/news/crime/2016/01/04/business-owner-shoots-robbery-suspect-threatening-customer/78262328/) > [@](#): > > Police say a business owner shot one robbery suspect and scared away two others when he saw the men threaten and try to rob a frequent customer. > … > The owner of the car wash saw the robbery in progress, stepped outside with his weapon and “challenged the suspects.” The suspects turned towards the business owner, who began firing at the suspects. They fled the scene in a silver vehicle. > > At about 7 a.m., a man turned up at Charlton Methodist Hospital with a gunshot wound. Detectives interviewed the man, who confessed to have taken part in the attempted robbery. DGU with no deaths. 3vs1 and the 1 was saved by another. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/613 "2016-03-28T14:39:36Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > What is the shelf life of ammunition? A really long time when stored properly. Rotating the inventory with new supply is a good way to keep stockpiles fresh. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/614 "2016-03-28T18:08:53Z")
Positive gun news of the day out of southern Ohio: potential campus shooting averted thanks to alert gun shop owner. \*"John Downs, owner of a Logan gun shop, refused to sell a gun to 25-year-old James Howard. Howard passed a background check, but he made statements that indicated he may want to harm himself or others, according to ABC 6. “There was a red flag for me,” Downs told ABC 6. “I won’t allow that; I don’t want that to be on me.” Howard left the store angry after Downs refused to sell him a long gun. When Howard returned to the store more than an hour later, Downs hid his customers in a backroom, locked the store, and called 911. Police later arrested Howard at a nearby Walmart. He was buying camouflage clothing, gloves, and ammunition."\* > **[Gun shop owner thwarts possible shooting at Ohio University](https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2016/03/gun_shop_owner_thwarts_possibl.html)** > > A Hocking County gun shop owner may have preventing a mass shooting at Ohio University in Athens, authorities said. The story does mention that Howard had managed to buy a gun at another gun shop, so maybe this is better described as the Mildly Positive Gun News Of The Day. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/615 "2016-03-29T15:46:45Z")
In other news, [Grandmother, 65, says she shot man who tried to mug her](http://www.unionleader.com/Grandmother-65-says-she-shot-man-who-tried-to-mug-her) > [@](#): > > She had just gotten off work as a poker dealer. It was about 11:30 p.m. As she made her way to the building, she said a man exited the car, ran ahead of her and blocked her path. > > “As soon as he went to grab me with his left hand, I pulled (the gun) out and shot him. I didn’t even think about it. I thought my safety was in danger,” said the woman, who asked that her name or image not be publicized. DGU with no deaths. I’m surprised there are these types of events in NH, the live free or die state. Then again, folks who engage in criminal behavior are not necessarily the smartest bunch. * * * In more news, [2 injured during reported home invasion robbery in Little Rock](http://katv.com/news/local/2-injured-during-reported-home-invasion-robbery-in-little-rock) > [@](#): > > Police have charged John Roberts, 37, of Little Rock, with aggravated assault after police say he entered a neighbor’s house and pointed a shotgun at the owner. The 46-year-old woman was struggling with Roberts when Damion Dennis, 23, ran into the room and began to wrestle with Roberts. Witnesses told police at some point during the struggle, Roberts shot Dennis in the leg and Dennis returned fire, striking Roberts several times. > > Roberts then fled to a nearby residence, where police later found him suffering from gunshot wounds to the chest and leg. Both Roberts and Dennis were taken to local hospitals where they were treated for non-life threatening injuries. DGU with no deaths. That’s remarkable given the attacker had the jump on two residents while he was wielding a shotgun. The residents were able to repel the attacker. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/616 "2016-03-29T15:55:04Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > In other news, [Grandmother, 65, says she shot man who tried to mug her](http://www.unionleader.com/Grandmother-65-says-she-shot-man-who-tried-to-mug-her) > [@](#): > > Earlier, she took calls from Mayor Ted Gatsas and Police Chief Nick Willard. She said Willard asked if she felt OK being unarmed because police took her weapon for evidence. Not to worry, she told him, her neighbor had lent her one of his. Someone previously asked what happens when a gun is taken away as part of an investigation. This is one work-around. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/617 "2016-03-30T10:54:00Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Someone previously asked what happens when a gun is taken away as part of an investigation. This is one work-around. Out of curiosity - does the neighbor have any liability if she shoots someone with the borrowed gun? I presume it’s legal if the police chief didn’t have an issue with it. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/618 "2016-03-30T12:36:23Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Out of curiosity - does the neighbor have any liability if she shoots someone with the borrowed gun? Not likely, but there may be states where she would. Not exactly your question, but if she did not secure the gun in her home and a child got hold of it and injured someone by shooting it, it’s possible the neighbor (owner) is liable. Again, that might depend on the state. ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/619 "2016-03-30T12:50:11Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Out of curiosity - does the neighbor have any liability if she shoots someone with the borrowed gun? I presume it’s legal if the police chief didn’t have an issue with it. There could be a legal problem if you loan a gun to someone you know is not legally allowed to own one - a felon, drug addict or person who has previously been committed for mental treatment, for example. A legal problem related to gun laws, but not liability. How can there be liability for future unknown events that might happen? If you loan your car to someone who drives onto a sidewalk and kills people, are you liable? If you loan a baseball bat to someone who bludgeons someone, are you liable? I don’t see how. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/620 "2016-03-30T13:18:22Z")
> [@Orwell](#): > > How can there be liability for future unknown events that might happen? If you loan your car to someone who drives onto a sidewalk and kills people, are you liable? Yes. In California, [Vehicle Code Section 17150](http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=veh&group=17001-18000&file=17150-17159): > [@](#): > > “Every owner of a motor vehicle is liable and responsible for death or injury to person or property resulting from a negligent or wrongful act or omission in the operation of the motor vehicle, in the business of the owner or otherwise, by any person using or operating the same with the permission, express or implied, of the owner.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=32)