# Positive Gun News of the Day **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490 "2015-10-22T22:57:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/681 "2016-04-13T20:19:09Z")
The idea is that there is an expectation for people to be armed in Alaska, so to engage in robbing clothing stores is stupid. But since there is no limit to stupid behavior, stupid behavior still happens. ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/682 "2016-04-13T20:37:28Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > The idea is that there is an expectation for people to be armed in Alaska, so to engage in robbing clothing stores is stupid. But since there is no limit to stupid behavior, stupid behavior still happens. Got it. Makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/683 "2016-04-14T15:38:43Z")
In other news, [UPDATE: Robbery suspect shot by store owner](http://www.wsaz.com/content/news/Deputies-on-scene-of-shooting-at-convenience-store-in-Wayne-County--365527931.html) > [@](#): > > It happened Saturday morning at the Sunoco, better known as the Pit Stop, on Route 52. > > Deputies say a key holder/employee of the convenience store got a notification that an alarm was going off. > > When they got there, they say they found a man inside the store packing up merchandise and putting it into a bag. > > Deputies say the suspect and the employee then got into a confrontation and the employee then shot the man. > > According to investigators, the suspect was taken to the hospital. The extent of his injuries is unknown. DGU with no deaths. Apparently this robbery was connected to a previous attempt two days prior to steal an ATM machine. Those standalone ATM machines seem like much better targets than hot robberies over a few hundred dollars, but then again petty criminals aren’t known for intellectual prowess. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/684 "2016-04-14T15:49:26Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > Those standalone ATM machines seem like much better targets than hot robberies over a few hundred dollars, but then again petty criminals aren’t known for intellectual prowess. A fellow here carried one of with a tow truck to open it at his leisure. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2016, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/685 "2016-04-15T11:59:53Z")
Students affirm their [right to carry an empty holster](http://www.al.com/news/mobile/index.ssf/2016/04/watch_video_of_usa_student_cit.html) on a college campus in Mobile, Alabama. > [@](#): > > The national entity of the nonprofit organization, Students for Concealed Carry, organizes a nationwide empty holster protest in which participants wear holsters on their respective campuses. The event takes place each spring in an effort to promote gun law awareness. According to Parten, this week marks the 2016 iteration of the protest. > > “I totally forgot I even had the holster on,” Parten says. > > “I believe people who have concealed carry licenses should be able to carry on college campuses,” Parten adds. > > … > > Parten says the officer who stopped him gave him a citation that required him to meet with the Dean of Students. > > University Director of Communications and Media Relations Bob Lowry issued a statement regarding the conflict. > > “(Campus police) received an anonymous report that a person in the Student Center may have been carrying an ‘unconcealed gun.’ USAPD officers arrived at the location and, following an on-site interview with a student wearing an empty gun holster, issued a campus judicial citation to the student,” Lowry says. > > “Upon further investigation, it has been determined that the citation should not have been issued and it has been rescinded. University Police are conducting an internal investigation of the matter.” ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2016, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/686 "2016-04-15T15:23:05Z")
In other news, [Police investigate home invasion that left teen suspect dead in Fort Worth](http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2016/01/police-investigate-home-invasion-that-left-teen-suspect-dead-in-fort-worth.html/) > [@](#): > > Kevin Brown, 16, was found dead on a driveway a few houses down from the attempted home invasion. > > Police say Kevin Brown kicked down the door of a home in the 4000 block of Miami Springs Drive about 8:30 a.m. and was shot when he encountered an armed homeowner. > > “He was shot right in the middle of his heart,” Joshua Tanksley told WFAA-TV (Channel 8). Tanksley found Brown after he was shot. > > Brown, 16, fled down the street, collapsed and died on nearby Sarasota Springs Drive. He was pronounced dead at 8:43 a.m., according to the Tarrant County medical examiner’s office. DGU with one death. Burglary is a high risk occupation in Texas. * * * In more news, [Suspected Burglar Shot by Homeowner in Redondo Beach](http://patch.com/california/manhattanbeach/suspected-burglar-shot-homeowner-redondo-beach) > [@](#): > > The homeowner and a friend were in the house when he received a notification on his smartphone from the home security system of movements in the home’s detached garage, Heywood said. The homeowner saw a male suspect on the security camera video and he and his friend armed themselves and went outside, he said. > > When the pair went outside, they saw the suspect wheeling a motorcycle out of the garage. When confronted, the suspect dropped the motorcycle, began to flee then turned around, confronted the residents and that’s when the shooting occurred, Heywood said. > > The suspect, identified as Laurencia Gamboa, 33, of Redondo Beach suffered a gunshot wound to the leg, he said. DGU with no deaths. Though I wouldn’t generally advise leaving a residence to confront an unknown situation, with security cameras the situation may have been more clear to the people at home. * * * In even more news, [Armed victim shoots suspected robber](http://www.wtvm.com/story/31005640/man-kills-would-be-robber) > [@](#): > > Mobile Police say the robbery victim was with his girlfriend when he was approached by an armed man in the Twin Oaks parking lot last night. > > “As he and his girlfriend were unloading groceries from the vehicle and unknown male subject armed with a handgun approached him and demanded his property,” Perkins said. > > Police have identified the suspected robber as 18 year old Michael Lanier Clark. According to police Clark had taken the victim’s wallet when the man fired his own weapon hitting Clark in the chest. > > Clark’s body was discovered in a breezeway where police recovered the stolen wallet and a weapon. DGU with one death. Robbery in Alabama isn’t such a safe occupation either it seems. Pretty solid presence of mind to keep his wits, land two hits. And even still the robber was able to flee for a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2016, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/687 "2016-04-16T15:21:19Z")
In other news, [APD: Suspect shot during South Austin robbery attempt](http://keyetv.com/news/local/apd-suspect-shot-during-south-austin-robbery-attempt) > [@](#): > > Police say a suspect was shot while trying to rob a South Austin convenience store. > > It happened at a store located at the intersection of West Mary Street and South 5th Street. > > Police say someone in the store opened fire on the suspect during the robbery attempt and shot him in the arm. The suspect then fled down the street. > > Police located the suspect at Bouldin Avenue and West Annie Street. EMS medics treated the suspect identified only as a man in his 20’s and transported him to University Medical Center Brackenridge with non life-threatening injuries. DGU with no deaths. 2 robbers and both are apprehended with one being shot. The idea that there will likely be only single assailants seems shortsighted. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2016, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/688 "2016-04-16T16:06:20Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > In other news, [APD: Suspect shot during South Austin robbery attempt](http://keyetv.com/news/local/apd-suspect-shot-during-south-austin-robbery-attempt) > > DGU with no deaths. 2 robbers and both are apprehended with one being shot. The idea that there will likely be only single assailants seems shortsighted. Wow, I was just in that area last month, taking a gun class at Central Texas Gun Works 321 W Ben White Blvd, Austin TX. That’s only two miles from that DGU location. The class instructor, BTW, was excellent. Highly recommended. Added: no affiliation whatsoever with CTGW, other than being a very satisfied customer. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2016, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/689 "2016-04-17T22:10:34Z")
In other news, [Suspects In Deadly Craigslist Home Invasion May Have Struck Before](http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/01/25/suspects-in-deadly-craigslist-home-invasion-may-have-struck-before/) > [@](#): > > It was Sunday when two men went into the home on Taft Court near Belleview and Simms and tied up the male homeowner. He got loose, ran out and began firing at an intruder in his SUV. > > “The homeowner who was restrained inside of house was able to break free from the restraints, come outside, confront the two suspects who still were there, and that is when first shots were fired,” Kelley said. DGU with one dead. Apparently these two were using a vehicle they stole using the same ruse as well. One got away in the previously stolen vehicle but was arrested a few days later. Yeah meeting people from Craigslist has zero appeal. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/690 "2016-04-18T15:55:02Z")
In other news, [Deputies: Ocala man shot by neighbor during fight](http://www.mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2016/1/24/deputies_ocala_man_s.html) > [@](#): > > When they arrived, they say they learned Michael Ratliff had been involved in a physical altercation with his girlfriend, Alyse Lazaro. > > At some point, Lazaro ran to her neighbor’s house for help. The neighbor, identified as Ryan Panzegraf, came back to the house with Lazaro. > > Deputies say another physical altercation ensued, during which Panzegraf shot Ratliff in the chest. DGU with one death. When you are at a physical disadvantage a force multiplier can be especially effective. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/691 "2016-04-19T15:39:47Z")
In other news,[Armed resident foils armed robbery attempt](https://www.stpso.com/home-articles/armed-resident-foils-armed-robbery-attempt/) > [@](#): > > Three men are in jail today after an armed resident stopped their attempt to rob him at his Slidell area home Sunday night. > > One of the three men approached a residence on Acacia Drive in Slidell at approximately 9 p.m. He claimed to be having vehicle trouble and asked the homeowner if he could use the telephone. When he attempted to enter the home he was stopped by the homeowner. > > A second man, who was wearing a mask, came from behind the bushes and pointed a gun at the homeowner’s face. The homeowner pulled out his own pistol and they exchanged gunfire before the two men fled in a dark-colored pick-up truck. > > Late last night the abandoned pick-up truck was located on Morrison Road in New Orleans East. The truck had a bullet hole in the rear passenger-side door and inside the cab police found a mask, duct tape and latex gloves. DGU with no deaths. All three were arrested - one of them at a hospital where he was being treated for a gunshot wound. 3v1 and the one prevailed. With what was found in the truck this could have gone much worse. In this day an age I’d be surprised if a person legitimately needed to use a phone. And no way in hell I’d answer the door at 9pm. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/692 "2016-04-19T22:02:00Z")
Here’s one I can’t completely claim is not a Positive Gun Use: [Georgia KKK Imperial Wizard commits suicide by cop.](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/georgia-kkk-imperial-wizard-killed-after-shooting-at-police-during-eight-hour-standoff/) ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/693 "2016-04-19T22:12:35Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Here’s one I can’t completely claim is not a Positive Gun Use: [Georgia KKK Imperial Wizard commits suicide by cop.](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/georgia-kkk-imperial-wizard-killed-after-shooting-at-police-during-eight-hour-standoff/) Do you suppose he had a bad day? How was your day? ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/694 "2016-04-19T23:45:11Z")
I missed this bit of news this weekend. [Mississippi becomes 10th state in the union to adopt constitutional carry](http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/documents/2016/pdf/HB/0700-0799/HB0786SG.pdf) bringing the total to 20% of states. > [@](#): > > (24) \* \* \* A license \* \* \* under this section is not > 435 required for a loaded or unloaded pistol or revolver to be carried > 436 upon the person in a sheath, belt holster or shoulder holster or > 437 in a purse, handbag, satchel, other similar bag or briefcase or > 438 fully enclosed case if the person is not engaged in criminal > 439 activity other than a misdemeanor traffic offense, is not > 440 otherwise prohibited from possessing a pistol or revolver under > 441 state or federal law, and is not in a location prohibited under > 442 subsection (13) of this section. I note that ankle holsters are not covered, nor is holster-less carry (I would not recommend this). I think there will be at least 1 or 2 lower population states that go constitutional carry before a large population state like Ohio or Florida do it. And the [animated Right to Carry .gif](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_carry#/media/File:Rtc.gif) has already been updated. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/695 "2016-04-20T16:04:04Z")
In other news, [Police: Man fatally shoots intruder at OKC apartment complex](http://okcfox.com/news/local/police-investigating-home-invasion-shots-fired-in-southwest-okc) > [@](#): > > “Officers say there was a first initial knock at the door. The victim did not know who it was,” said Sgt. Ashely Peters from the Oklahoma City Police Department. “He was having a hard time seeing who was at the front door, so he waited a little bit.” > > Police say soon after, the suspects started kicking the victim’s door and entered the apartment. Police say the victim was waiting inside with a gun. > > “He had retrieved a gun from the back of his home. He did fire his gun and struck one of the suspects, which was fatally hit,” Sgt. Peters said. DGU with one dead. 2v1 kicking in an apartment door. The other person that ran was later arrested. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/696 "2016-04-21T15:52:05Z")
In other news, [LMPD: Woman shoots man trying to rob her downtown](http://www.wlky.com/news/1-shot-in-downtown-louisville/37651924) > [@](#): > > Louisville Metro Police said a man with a knife approached a woman downtown Tuesday night and said “give me everything you have.” Authorities said that’s when the woman pulled out a gun and shot him. > … > The suspect is expected to survive. Police said he will be charged when he is released from the hospital. The woman will not face any charges. DGU with no deaths. A knife in the middle of a populated street is ballsy. Good presence of mind there. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/697 "2016-04-21T15:56:37Z")
> [@](#): > > said “give me everything you have.” and she did! ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/698 "2016-04-21T16:05:07Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > and she did! It just happened to be at 1,300 feet per second. Good for her. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/699 "2016-04-21T17:05:55Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > (snip) [Mississippi becomes 10th state in the union to adopt constitutional carry](http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/documents/2016/pdf/HB/0700-0799/HB0786SG.pdf) bringing the total to 20% of states. > > I note that ankle holsters are not covered, nor is holster-less carry (I would not recommend this). I think there will be at least 1 or 2 lower population states that go constitutional carry before a large population state like Ohio or Florida do it. And the [animated Right to Carry .gif](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_carry#/media/File:Rtc.gif) has already been updated. According to [handGunLaw.us](http://handgunlaw.us) six states allow permitless concealed carry: AK AZ KS ME MS & VT. Select any of those states from the map, to see. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2016, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/700 "2016-04-23T01:25:17Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > According to [handGunLaw.us](http://handgunlaw.us) six states allow permitless concealed carry: AK AZ KS ME MS & VT. Select any of those states from the map, to see. The site is either out of date, or uses a standard that is more restrictive than commonly understood. [From the wiki:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_carry) > [@](#): > > As of April 15, 2016, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas[disputed], Idaho (effective July 1, 2016; residents only), Kansas, Maine, Mississippi, Puerto Rico[disputed], Vermont, West Virginia (effective June 5, 2016)[5] and Wyoming(residents only) do not require a permit to carry a concealed firearm for any person of age (usually 21 and older) who is not prohibited from owning a firearm. Permitless carry in Idaho and Wyoming is applicable to residents only; non-residents must have a permit to carry a concealed handgun in these states. I suppose the cite you reference leaves off Wyoming and Idaho because it only applies to residents? That counts as far as I’m concerned. West Virginia has been signed but will not be go into effect until June. Arkansas is a bit more of a wobbler as noted in the wiki, but reviewing the [Arkansas code](http://law.justia.com/codes/arkansas/2010/title-5/subtitle-6/chapter-73/subchapter-1/5-73-120) it seems pretty clear to me: > [@](#): > > 5-73-120. Carrying a weapon. > > (a) A person commits the offense of carrying a weapon if he or she possesses a handgun, knife, or club on or about his or her person, in a vehicle occupied by him or her, or otherwise readily available for use with a purpose to employ the handgun, knife, or club as a weapon against a person. > … > (c) It is a defense to a prosecution under this section that at the time of the act of carrying a weapon: > … > (4) The person is carrying a weapon when upon a journey, unless the journey is through a commercial airport when presenting at the security checkpoint in the airport or is in the person’s checked baggage and is not a lawfully declared weapon; While the Arkansas attorney general has stated she believes this doesn’t apply to concealed carry and only to open carry, it’s her opinion and not binding. Even in her opinion she states that unlicensed concealed carry in a vehicle outside your home county is not a violation of statute so I and some others believe the law that obviously protects unlicensed open carry would also apply to concealed. I can’t find any instance of conviction for this though my search wasn’t exhaustive. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=36)