# Positive Gun News of the Day **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490 "2015-10-22T22:57:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2016, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/701 "2016-04-23T01:29:00Z")
In other news, [Dallas store owner fatally shoots robber](http://www.fox4news.com/news/82735444-story) > [@](#): > > Owner Bunthan Te said two masked gunmen walked into the store. One jumped over the counter and the other held his wife at gunpoint. > … > There was a brief shootout at close range in the cooler. Te wasn’t hit and he doesn’t remember hitting the suspect, but the man ran away after that. > > Te then went to help his wife. She was able to break away and he took the opportunity to fire shots at the other suspect. > > Police believe there were actually three suspects involved in the robbery. Two of them got away and the man the store owner shot died in the parking lot. DGU with one death. 3 people vs the two store workers. Even at close range, shot placement is critical. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2016, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/702 "2016-04-23T03:06:49Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > In other news, [Dallas store owner fatally shoots robber](http://www.fox4news.com/news/82735444-story) > > DGU with one death. 3 people vs the two store workers. Even at close range, shot placement is critical. The Wife fired at the robbers. I am curious as to how much firearm training she had. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/703 "2016-04-23T19:01:49Z")
[Elderly man thwarts robbery; kills a suspect, wounds another](http://wvmetronews.com/2016/04/19/elderly-man-thwarts-robbery-attempt-kills-one-suspect-wounds-another/) > [@](#): > > The suspects, later identified as Larry Shaver, 28, of Fairmont and John Grossklaus, 28, of Fairmont, threatened the victim with what appeared to be a handgun and demanded various items, according to Fairmont Police. > > The elderly man then pulled out his own pistol and opened fire on the assailants. At least three rounds hit Shaver and Grossklaus. 3 assailants in their 20’s -v- 1 octogenarian. Don’t piss off grandpa. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2016, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/704 "2016-04-23T21:31:14Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > [Elderly man thwarts robbery; kills a suspect, wounds another](http://wvmetronews.com/2016/04/19/elderly-man-thwarts-robbery-attempt-kills-one-suspect-wounds-another/) > 3 assailants in their 20’s -v- 1 octogenarian. Don’t piss off grandpa. This was a pellet gun, but in other crime reports that have been posted, I am surprised how often someone threatened with a pistol can used their own previously concealed weapon to defeat the robbers who already have a gun aimed at the victim. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/705 "2016-04-23T23:02:59Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > This was a pellet gun, but in other crime reports that have been posted, I am surprised how often someone threatened with a pistol can used their own previously concealed weapon to defeat the robbers who already have a gun aimed at the victim. I imagine having the element of surprise in their favor helps a great deal. I’ve never had to use a gun in a civilian tactical situation, and I hope it stays that way. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/706 "2016-04-24T01:34:23Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > I imagine having the element of surprise in their favor helps a great deal. I’ve never had to use a gun in a civilian tactical situation, and I hope it stays that way. I expected the guy who tried to rob my Wife, who she chased down and identified, to break down our door any night, and wondered how to handle that. My twelve gauge as he came through the broken door seemed the best option. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/707 "2016-04-24T01:37:39Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > I imagine having the element of surprise in their favor helps a great deal. I’ve never had to use a gun in a civilian tactical situation, and I hope it stays that way. How can one surprise a guy with a gun pointed at you? I suppose the old saying, “If they were not stupid, they would have a job” comes into play. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/708 "2016-04-24T01:46:41Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > How can one surprise a guy with a gun pointed at you? > I suppose the old saying, “If they were not stupid, they would have a job” comes into play. If you are carrying concealed, the assailant doesn’t know that and over time (seconds, minutes) may get a little lax. All you need is a couple of seconds and, being very careful you can draw, and put two rounds into their forehead and one to the chest, to stop the threat. If you F it up, you’re likely dead. Don’t F it up. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/709 "2016-04-24T02:00:33Z")
Matt Helm, protagonist of the Donald Hamilton novels, on instructing upon the use of a pistol: “It is not a magic wand. Pointing it at someone does not give you power over them. Aim at the center of the body, pull the long thing that comes out the bottom until it quits making noise.” ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/710 "2016-04-24T06:16:01Z")
I loved that series of books … ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/711 "2016-04-25T11:09:55Z")
If the films are anything to go by, you surprise people by using a gun that fires several seconds after you pull the trigger. But we digress. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/712 "2016-04-25T12:23:21Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > If the films are anything to go by, you surprise people by using a gun that fires several seconds after you pull the trigger. But we digress. The novels are very, very different than the films. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/713 "2016-04-25T15:33:54Z")
In other news, [Officials: Gun-toting veteran saves life of Bastrop deputy](http://www.statesman.com/news/news/local/officials-gun-toting-veteran-saves-life-of-bastrop/nqD7c/) > [@](#): > > Not thinking about his own life, a local Marine veteran jumped into action and stopped a man from reaching a Bastrop deputy’s gun as the suspect pummeled the officer during a struggle earlier this month. > > “Freeze!” Scott Perkins yelled as he pulled out his concealed handgun, pointing at the suspect. > > “I’m alive today because of him,” the deputy, 23-year-old Dylan Dorris said Wednesday, reflecting on the events surrounding a disturbance call outside a Bastrop County gas station Jan. 16. “There are no words to explain it. He’s such an outstanding citizen. He’s here for our country, our community and you really feel the love.” > > Perkins’ actions caused the suspect to leave Dorris and flee, before he was detained and taken into custody by another deputy and Dorris shortly after. DGU with no injuries (from gunfire). Armed citizen able to come to the aid of a police officer during a struggle and is credited with saving the officer’s life. * * * In other news, [LMPD investigating after homeowner shoots, kills intruder in south Louisville](http://www.wdrb.com/story/31077556/lmpd-investigating-a-shooting-on-manslick-road) > [@](#): > > Police say a man was fatally shot in south Louisville this morning as he tried to break into a home. > > Louisville Metro Police were called to a home on Manslick Road near Iroquois Park just before 4 a.m. on the report of a shooting. > > LMPD spokesman Dwight Mitchell says when officers arrived they found a white male dead outside the home. Mitchell has confirmed that the man was in the process of breaking into the home when he was shot. > > Mitchell says the investigation is continuing, but it appears the homeowner shot the intruder to protect his family. DGU with one death. This one seems pretty routine actually - person tries to break into a house, is shot and killed. I’d say breaking in to someone’s house at 4 in the morning the person would have to expect people to be home. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/714 "2016-04-25T15:55:09Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > In other news, [Officials: Gun-toting veteran saves life of Bastrop deputy](http://www.statesman.com/news/news/local/officials-gun-toting-veteran-saves-life-of-bastrop/nqD7c/) Semper Fi, Scott Perkins. Nicely done, Marine. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/715 "2016-04-26T16:44:38Z")
In other news, [22-year-old neighbor ID’d as burglar killed by Jeffco homeowner](http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2016/01/22-year-old_neighbor_idd_as_bu.html) > [@](#): > > [Chief Deputy]Christian said an 8-year-old boy had just arrived home from school and was alone. He called his father and told him three men were knocking on the doors. > > The child hid under a bed. The father, who was only a few minutes away, got home and went inside. Once inside, he discovered the three men had broken into the home. The father confronted them and fired shots from a handgun. > > Deputies arrived on the scene to find Stubbs on the floor inside the home. He was taken to UAB Hospital where he was pronounced dead at 5:21 p.m. > > The other two suspects fled on foot. There were early reports of a second suspect wounded, and deputies say there was a possible blood trail leading from the apartment. They were are also checking area hospitals. > … > "There are behaviors and activities in this life that increase your chances of losing yours,‘’ Christian said. “Kicking in a door and entering someone’s home with criminal intent is one of them. Thank God this little boy and his dad are OK.” DGU with one death, and possibly one other injury. 3 men vs. an 8 year old boy until the father comes home. Apparently the person who was killed was a neighbor - now that’s going to be awkward at the next block party. ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/716 "2016-04-26T23:00:27Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > The novels are very, very different than the films. Absolutely. I saw part of one of the movies and that was too much to see. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/717 "2016-04-26T23:06:27Z")
> [@GusNSpot](#): > > Absolutely. I saw part of one of the movies and that was too much to see. :mad: Now I _know_ you aren’t talking shit on Dean Martin. The Matt Helm novels were like the Mike Hammer novels in that the author could talk convincingly about violence and gunplay until the reader actually stopped, thought about it, and did a little research. The James Bond novels are the same. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/718 "2016-04-27T00:31:27Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Now I _know_ you aren’t talking shit on Dean Martin. > The Matt Helm novels were like the Mike Hammer novels in that the author could talk convincingly about violence and gunplay until the reader actually stopped, thought about it, and did a little research. The James Bond novels are the same. I never researched Bond novels. Fleming knew squat about firearms. ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/719 "2016-04-27T05:26:16Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Now I _know_ you aren’t talking shit on Dean Martin. > The Matt Helm novels were like the Mike Hammer novels in that the author could talk convincingly about violence and gunplay until the reader actually stopped, thought about it, and did a little research. The James Bond novels are the same. Not me… 😛 It is like the Spencer Stories from Robert Parker. As much as I liked the TV series, the fact that I had read the books allowed me to fill in the subtleties that the visual media can not where as the author can in a book. The thought processes are the key to Spencer, Matt Helm & Travis McGee enjoyment. IMO 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/720 "2016-04-27T15:33:58Z")
In other news, [SANGER HOMEOWNER DEFENDS PROPERTY WITH GUN](http://abc30.com/news/sanger-homeowner-defends-property-with-gun/1180049/) > [@](#): > > The homeowner, who didn’t want to identify himself on camera, says he was finishing some yard work Thursday night and went to go back inside. But his front security door was locked, which he knew he didn’t do. > > He looked through this window and saw 54-year-old Enrique Garza standing inside, about 10 feet away from him. > > The homeowner had this gun in his pocket, so he pulled it out. “I pointed it right at him he saw it and I said freeze don’t move,” the man said. “But it was a shock for about three or four seconds I didn’t know what he was going to do whether shoot me or stab me or whatever.” > > Garza didn’t have any weapons on him. Deputies, along with Sanger police officers, arrested him for burglary, violating probation, and misdemeanor drug possession. DGU with no injuries. This was in Fresno County, California. It may be surprising, but in many of the less populated counties local sheriffs will approve CCW permits. Those permits are valid statewide as well. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=35) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=37)