# Positive Gun News of the Day **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490 "2015-10-22T22:57:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/61 "2015-10-28T23:44:26Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > As noted before, because car registration isn’t motivated by a desire to reduce car ownership, punish car owners, or confiscate cars. We have years and years of the gun control lot making their agenda and goals clear, yet it is a mystery why we don’t trust you? Seriously, you really believe _the govmint is going to come and take yer guns away_? This outweighs the need to track how guns get into the hands of criminals? How do you feel about the training and licensing at least? ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/62 "2015-10-29T00:17:18Z")
Your mighty italics do not frighten me. Go to most any random gun thread from this board. You will find posts from people on your side advocating all manner of draconian measures against gun owners. Those are your comrades. We do not trust you. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/63 "2015-10-29T00:21:23Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > limitations on automatic weapons We do. They are highly restricted and you need tens of thousands of dollars to buy one. The number of murders done with legally-owned automatic weapons in the last 80 years can be counted on one hand. Like 2. > [@](#): > > and non-ferrous guns. It is [illegal to make any such gun since 1988](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undetectable_Firearms_Act). I assume you are referring to 3D printing: the legal ones have metal in them. Anything that is plastic is unreliable as hell. As for non printed firearms: Die Hard 2 is not a documentary! ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/64 "2015-10-29T00:54:32Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > If the NRA would meet most of America part way the gun owners would not be reviled collectively. We need nationwide waiting periods, registration, limitations on automatic weapons and non-ferrous guns. We need gun safety training to be mandatory. Things like this would have me on the gun owners side, instead I see the crap the NRA does on behalf of gun owners and it makes the gun supporters look very unreasonable. Cars have to be registered, so why not guns? What an odd way of defining “half way”. Just fold on every issue and surrender to meet in the middle! Maybe the NRA could be more like Brady! Where are you proposing to move your positions to the middle? ---
**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/65 "2015-10-29T03:11:07Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > We need gun safety training to be mandatory. Things like this would have me on the gun owners side, instead I see the crap the NRA does on behalf of gun owners and it makes the gun supporters look very unreasonable. Cars have to be registered, so why not guns? Ah yes. The evil NRA does horrible things like advocating for gun safety. > [@](#): > > The Eddie Eagle GunSafe® program is a gun accident prevention program that seeks to help parents, law enforcement, community groups and educators navigate a topic paramount to our children’s safety. Eddie and his Wing Team are on a mission to help you teach Pre-K through 4th graders what to do if they ever come across a gun. > **[Eddie Eagle GunSafe® Program](https://eddieeagle.nra.org/)** > > The Eddie Eagle GunSafe® Program is a gun accident prevention program that seeks to help parents, law enforcement, community groups and educators navigate a topic paramount to our children’s safety. Eddie and his Wing Team are on a mission to help... Tip: you might want to make up your mind as to what side you’re actually on. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/66 "2015-10-29T05:05:53Z")
[Palmetto homeowner holds burglar at gunpoint](http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2015/9/11/deputies_palmetto_ho.html) > [@](#): > > Michael Nelson, 28, and a 17-year-old male used an unlocked door to get into a house in the 8300 block of 36th Avenue E in Palmetto, according to the Manatee County Sheriff’s Office. The resident was home at the time, and she hid and called 911 while the suspects ransacked her home, deputies said. > > When deputies arrived, they saw the suspects run from the home and drive off in a car. They pursued the suspects through the Shadow Brooke Mobile Home Park. The suspects got out of their car and ran from deputies. > > Nelson ran into a home in the 3700 block of 70th Street E, but he was held at gunpoint by homeowner Jonathan Friedman until deputies arrived. > > Deputies said the woman who called 911 identified Nelson as one of the burglars. Locking your door is good advice. Burglars arrested after being held at gunpoint by resident, no one injured (even burglar who attempted to light himself on fire while in the hospital) - positive news! ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/67 "2015-10-29T18:38:38Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > Ah yes. The evil NRA does horrible things like advocating for gun safety. > > [https://eddieeagle.nra.org/](https://eddieeagle.nra.org/) > > Tip: you might want to make up your mind as to what side you’re actually on. Is it mandatory? Also I am not really on a side. I have my own opinions and am not part of some anti-gun movement. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/68 "2015-10-29T19:43:43Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Also I am not really on a side. I have my own opinions and am not part of some anti-gun movement. I wonder how many of us are on the “not really on a side” side. Personally, every time I hear about a tragic loss of life involving guns, I think that we _have_ to do _something_. But I live in a rural area (and never want to move) where firearms are sometimes necessary. A couple years ago I shot a fox that was in our yard. He was behaving oddly (stalking me) and the department of agriculture field office determined he was rabid. I was glad I owned the shotgun, but haven’t fired it since. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/69 "2015-10-29T23:32:45Z")
[Resident of Duke Manor Apartments Kills Suspected Intruder](http://www.twcnews.com/nc/triangle-sandhills/news/2015/09/17/resident-of-duke-manor-apartments-kills-suspected-intruder.html) > [@](#): > > Durham police are investigating a deadly home invasion. > > Around 1:30 a.m. Thursday, an intruder entered a home in the Duke Manor apartments. A resident said someone entered the home and hit another resident in the head. > > That’s when another resident grabbed a gun and aimed at the suspect. After a tussle with the suspect, the resident opened fire, killing the suspect. Police say they found the suspect with several gunshot wounds on the floor. > > There is no information if charges will be filed against the resident who fired the gun. Police identified the suspect as Antonio Lamont Elliott Jr., 18, of Durham. More of the same - home invasion thwarted and only minor injuries to residents. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/70 "2015-10-30T19:55:40Z")
[Hermitage man defends neighbor’s property from thieves](http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/crime/2015/09/18/hermitage-man-defends-neighbors-property-thieves/72428588/) > [@](#): > > This is the scene that unfolded on Netherlands Drive this week, when a resident noticed a strange pickup truck back into his neighbor’s driveway, police said, then appear to try and steal a utility trailer. > > “…he quickly drove his own pickup truck to the scene and blocked the thieves’ escape path,” police said in a statement." The neighbor detained one of the suspects at gunpoint while two others, a man and a woman fled. When the guy who fled turned around and started to come back with his hands around his waist, the neighbor fired a warning shot in the air, causing that man to turn around and resume running." > > Hermitage Precinct officers arrived shortly and found Marty Ray Harris, 40, of Fairview, being held at gunpoint by the neighbor. > > Police said Harris admitted to detectives that he and his accomplices intended on stealing and selling the utility trailer to support a heroin habit. Now that’s a good neighbor! ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2015, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/71 "2015-11-01T00:19:45Z")
[The Utah Supreme Court says you don’t have to take a bullet for your company](http://fox13now.com/2015/09/18/the-utah-supreme-court-says-you-dont-have-to-take-a-bullet-for-your-company/) > [@](#): > > In an opinion handed down on Friday, the state’s top court ruled that “Utah law reflects a policy favoring the right of self-defense, and that policy is of sufficient magnitude to qualify as a substantial public policy exception to the at-will employment doctrine, but only under the narrow circumstances where an employee cannot withdraw and faces imminent serious bodily injury.” Even if you are an at-will employee in Utah - you can’t be fired for exercising self defense in the case of imminent serious bodily injury. Sounds about right to me. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/72 "2015-11-02T16:18:36Z")
Here’s [another one](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-concealed-carry-20151101-story.html) for your thread, Bone. It’s interesting to me because I didn’t realize that there was such a thing as a Chicago CHL for anyone not named “Alderman” or “Mayor.” Basically, Mr. Gildersleeve, 55, with a [lengthy criminal history](http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Illinois/Cook-County-IL/Reginald-Gildersleeve.239925.html), and [out on bond for another crime](http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/11/robert-farago/concealed-carry-stops-armed-attacker-in-chicago-meet-reginald-gildersleeve/), tries to rob the local corner store. While herding the employees of the store to one side, he got into an altercation with a customer, a 44 year old CHL holder and Chicago resident, who shot Mr. Gildersleeve multiple times, killing him. Naturally his family is shocked and dismayed that their loved one was killed. From the Tribune article: > [@](#): > > “Something doesn’t seem right,” said Igbinosa Oronsaye, whose mother was married to Gildersleeve. “Reggie doesn’t even own a gun. He couldn’t own a gun if he wanted to.” > > Oronsaye said he wasn’t convinced the shooter acted properly. > > “Some people don’t actually know how to use guns,” he said. "They go to firing ranges, but it’s not the same as a bullet going into someone’s body, it’s not the same as a bullet going into flesh. They should be able to wound first, kill next. He didn’t deserve to get shot multiple times. > > “You just took a brother, you just took a father from a lot of people. Somebody’s got to answer for that.” ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/73 "2015-11-02T16:54:41Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > Here’s [another one](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-concealed-carry-20151101-story.html) for your thread, Bone. It’s interesting to me because I didn’t realize that there was such a thing as a Chicago CHL for anyone not named “Alderman” or “Mayor.” Good find. After Moore v. Madigan Chicago-ans have been able to obtain CHLs, though the process is lengthy. This is one of the positive outcomes. In other news, [Intruder fatally shot by San Pedro homeowner during break-in:](http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-intruder-fatally-shot-20150918-story.html) > [@](#): > > The homeowner heard the man breaking into the home in the 300 block of West 11th Street about 3 a.m., said Officer Liliana Preciado of the Los Angeles Police Department. > > He shot the man in the head. The intruder was taken to a hospital, where he died. This article is pretty sparse. Important details are essentially there is one dead intruder. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/74 "2015-11-02T19:54:15Z")
Yaaaay! All these corpses piling up just gives me such a warm positive feeling down in the cockles of my heart. Killing tools are just so gosh darn nifty, aren’t they? ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/75 "2015-11-02T21:22:48Z")
Would you feel better talking about folks getting robbed, beaten, raped, or killed by criminals? Fists and feet are our kind’s original killing tools. Eliminate other weapons and we are left with the strong (or numerous) preying on the weak. The weak hope the strong leave them alive, at least. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/76 "2015-11-02T21:29:56Z")
[Bank robber hospitalized after being shot three times by customer](http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/23024347-story) > [@](#): > > A thief walked into a Warren bank expecting to rob it at about 4 p.m. Monday. > > But a concealed pistol license holder shot the bank robber three times once in the leg and once in each arm. He is recovering in serious condition at St. John Providence Hospital. > > A passer-by recorded a phone video of the bad guy’s very bad day at Citizen’s Bank at Van Dyke north of Nine Mile in Warren. > > “It’s not every day you see a bad guy get shot and get taken down,” said witness Gary Guyette. > > The 43-year-old suspect turned his gun on the wrong customer, a 63-year-old CPL holder who was packing heat, himself. > > “The 63-year-old responded in kind by defending himself,” said Mayor Jim Fouts. “It’s his Second Amendment right.” Best way to avoid getting shot while committing robbery? Not committing robbery. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/77 "2015-11-02T21:48:01Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Would you feel better talking about folks getting robbed, beaten, raped, or killed by criminals? Probably. I don’t know what it is about the liberal mindset that makes it this way, but lack of concern for the victims of crime and defense of criminals are a hallmark. People are robbed, raped, tortured and killed every day by violent criminals prematurely kicked loose time and time again from the penal system and liberals couldn’t care less. Instead they continue to lobby as hard as they can for reduced prison sentences and early parole which creates even more victims and then get all het up over Sheriff Joe’s pink prison uniforms and mystery meat sandwiches. Go figure. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2015, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/78 "2015-11-03T09:13:41Z")
I’d feel better without the whooping and hollaring when someone \*gets \*to shoot someone because I was always told that it’s a tragedy when someone \*has \*to shoot someone. I guess I must have let my Eddie Eagle newsletter subscription lapse. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2015, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/79 "2015-11-03T11:17:04Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > People are robbed, raped, tortured and killed every day by violent criminals prematurely kicked loose time and time again from the penal system and liberals couldn’t care less. Maybe if conservatives would stop giving themselves tax cuts at the expense of corrections budgets, we wouldn’t have to release convicts early from over-crowded prisons. Conservatives rarely consider the unintended consequences of their actions. ---
**Author:** ![katpohl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b782af/32.png) [@katpohl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/katpohl)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2015, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/80 "2015-11-03T12:32:51Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > So I get kinda tired of this “well, what about car crashes?” from gun lovers. . As with most if not all legal gun owners in America , I **love** my kids and my grand kids , my husband also other family members and a few friends and being an American citizen … I **own** a home , a car , a gun , a sofa ,to name a few of the objects I have acquired. I love people . I own property . So I get kinds tired of these kinds of labels being used because I choose to exercise my right to keep and bear arms . For the record, I consider stories about citizens fighting back when confronted by an armed criminal , to very positive news ,compared to stories of how several citizens becoming victims of a mass murderer while on their way to class or enjoying a movie . [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=5)