# Positive Gun News of the Day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490 "2015-10-22T22:57:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1041 "2016-08-29T17:54:00Z")

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Body armor?

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**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2016, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1042 "2016-08-29T18:00:44Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Body armor?

Yeah, body armor - mostly vests but also more substantial ballistic-resistant items - is available from various sources, mostly online. Nothing illegal about it. Unfortunately, some determined criminals are buying it to improve their chances if they get shot at by would-be victims or police. These were serious armed robbers, or at least they wanted to be serious armed robbers, choosing a cash-rich business and wearing masks and body armor. Kudos to the business manager.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1043 "2016-08-29T18:34:56Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> In other news, [MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARY MANAGER SHOOTS ARMED ROBBERS CLAD IN MASKS, BODY ARMOR](http://abc7.com/news/walnut-park-store-owner-shoots-2-attempted-robbery-suspects-lasd-says/1376445/)
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> DGU with no deaths. 2v1 and the one prevailed. Another example where even prepared aggressors in superior numbers did not prevail.

I had to open the link to make sure it wasn’t an old link. I know I remember this exact scenario within the last year. Attempting a dispensary holdup in body armor.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1044 "2016-08-30T13:25:17Z")

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In other news,[Far northeast Dallas business owner interrupts burglary with handgun; police find suspect at hospital](http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2016/06/far-northeast-dallas-business-owner-interrupts-burglary-with-handgun-police-find-suspect-at-hospital.html/)

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> About 4:30 a.m. Tuesday, four burglars pried open the doors of a business in the 10300 block of Plano Road, near LBJ Freeway in far northeast Dallas, police said.
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> The owner of the business, who was upstairs, heard the break-in and went downstairs, where he saw the burglars taking cash, police said. He shot a handgun at them, and they ran to a nearby vehicle and drove off.
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> About half an hour later, Jacolby Tremone McCoy was dropped off at Doctors Hospital at White Rock Lake with gunshot wounds, and hospital workers called police.

DGU with no deaths. 4v1 and the one prevailed. Another example where with modern medicine being shot was not fatal. Placement is key and a person can continue to be a threat after they are shot.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1045 "2016-08-31T13:19:27Z")

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In other news,[UPDATE: Would Be Robber Shot By Store Owner, Charged, Identified](http://www.wltx.com/news/update-would-be-robber-shot-by-store-owner-charged-identified/239713654)

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> aveon Vogt, 22 has been arrested and charged with two counts of attempted murder, two counts of kidnapping, two counts of armed robbery and one count of possession of a firearm during the commission of a violent crime.  
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> James Israel, the owner of Gamerz on Broad River Road tells News 19 that it was around 9:30 in the morning when the man came in to rob them. He says, “He was pointing a gun at me and the guy I was playing a video game with.”
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> The robber took money from Isreal and one of his customers and then Isreal says he saw an opportunity, “He (the man) turned and was going to the other people. That’s when I was able to get in my pocket and pull my gun out.”

DGU with no deaths. Pretty straightforward on this one - it’s difficult to control multiple people simultaneously and especially when one of them is armed.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1046 "2016-09-01T15:42:26Z")

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In other news, [Woman shoots estranged husband at Decatur home](http://www.wbrc.com/story/32215088/woman-shoots-estranged-husband-at-decatur-home)

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> According to police, Vanessa said she shot her estranged husband, 30-year-old Mark Leffers, inside the home.
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> Officers entered the home and found Mark in a bedroom dead from a single gunshot wound. Police confirmed three children were inside the home at the time of the shooting.
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> Detectives with the Decatur Police Department’s Violent Crimes Unit, Crime Scene Technicians, and Morgan County District Attorney Scott Anderson all arrived at the home and began an investigation.
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> During the investigation, Vanessa told officers she shot Mark in self-defense.
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> According to divorce documents filed by Vanessa, Mark has been involved in two standoffs with police.

DGU with one death. Terrible that the kids were home, but the estranged husband doesn’t seem like a stand up kind of guy. Literally any more.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1047 "2016-09-01T16:24:31Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> Terrible that the kids were home, but the estranged husband doesn’t seem like a stand up kind of guy. Literally any more.

Military service, administratively discharged. Honorable? PTSD? Very sad, all the way around.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1048 "2016-09-01T17:01:53Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Military service, administratively discharged. Honorable? PTSD? Very sad, all the way around.

But Positive! nonetheless.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1049 "2016-09-02T13:23:16Z")

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In other news, [Hartford homeowner shoots intruder during attempted home invasion](http://www.dothaneagle.com/news/crime_court/hartford-homeowner-shoots-intruder-during-attempted-home-invasion/article_e0faeff0-3332-11e6-80e3-c7fca3d2a671.html)

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> Hartford Police Chief Annie Ward said police officers responded to a home invasion and shooting between 11:15 and 11:30 p.m. on North Fifth Avenue.  
> “It was an attempted home invasion and the home owner shot the suspect,” Ward said.  
> Ward said the police investigation showed a man was apparently trying to enter the home through a window when the homeowner fired off a shot, wounding the intruder before he could enter the home. Ward said the intruder was shot in the upper chest, and has since been treated and released from a local hospital.

DGU with no deaths. Home invader shot in the upper chest and still able to be treated and released - another example where shot placement is key and that a threat may not be eliminated with a single shot.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1050 "2016-09-02T19:29:21Z")

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[Man fatally shot while stalking ex-girlfriend](http://www.guns.com/2016/09/01/man-fatally-shot-while-stalking-ex-girlfriend/)

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> The suspect was recognized by Brooks as her ex-boyfriend, 55-year-old Robert Peak. Brooks previously moved out of another state in an attempt to get away from Peak, but he was apparently still able to locate her.
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> Peak was armed with a gun, as was Kim(acquaintance of woman). There was an exchange of gunfire between Kim and Peak, but Peak was the only one who was struck.

Apparently moving out of state wasn’t an obvious enough hint.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2016, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1051 "2016-09-04T14:03:39Z")

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In other news, [Alleged home intruder shot, killed by resident](http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/news/crime-law/alleged-home-intruder-shot-killed-by-resident/nrhzY/)

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> The Montgomery County Coroner’s Office identified the deceased as Bryan Q. Lewis, 36, of Dayton. Lewis died of multiple gunshot wounds to the chest and his death was ruled a homicide.  
> “They came into the bedroom saying do you want to die, mother (expletive)? Do you want to die, mother (expletive)?” the 911 caller told dispatchers. “I pulled a gun out of my nightstand and shot him twice. I’m pretty sure he’s dead.”  
> Montgomery County Common Pleas Court records show Lewis was convicted in 2012 of theft of a residence on Idle Wild Boulevard just a short walk from the Lindale house. Lewis had been indicted for aggravated burglary and robbery but pleaded to lesser charges and was sentenced to probation.  
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> In the 911 call, the resident reported the alleged intruder broke the window on the back door, came to his bedroom, threatened him and had a claw hammer in his hand. The called said he’d never seen the alleged intruder before.

DGU with one death. Intruder brought a claw hammer to a gunfight. Clearly probation in the past wasn’t enough to change the intruder’s ways.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1052 "2016-09-05T11:31:03Z")

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Hunter saves deer from huge Python.  
Not your typical DGU story. 😃 but a innocent life was saved.

Very interesting video. Pythons are an invasive species wiping out Florida’s native animals. This deer was saved just in time.

> **[Hunter saves deer – from a massive python in Florida](https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/hunter-saves-deer-massive-python-florida-article-1.2778058)**
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> Miami hunter Jimmy Wilson came upon a huge python wrapped around a white-tailed deer.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1053 "2016-09-05T12:52:26Z")

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Thanks, Ace.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1054 "2016-09-05T13:10:10Z")

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I (a California resident) am up in Oregon for the weekend. At a small town rummage sale someone was selling handguns, cash, no questions asked, no background check - a strange, new world for a (usually) law-abiding California shooter. One was a very nice Smith .38sp revolver with sweet wooden grips. Very comfortable.

Don’t ask, don’t tell: don’t ask me, and I won’t tell you.

The Second Amendment is alive and well in some states: that is my positive gun news for the day.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1055 "2016-09-05T13:36:16Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Hunter saves deer from huge Python.  
> Not your typical DGU story. 😃 but a innocent life was saved.
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> Very interesting video. Pythons are an invasive species wiping out Florida’s native animals. This deer was saved just in time.  
> [Hunter saves deer – from a massive python in Florida – New York Daily News](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/hunter-saves-deer-massive-python-florida-article-1.2778058)

Like **carnivorousplant** , yes, thanks **aceplace57**. A gun can be handy when you’re out and about amongst undesired critters, whether they are 2-legged critters, 4-legged critters, or slithering no-legged critters. When hiking out in the middle of nowhere, for example, if a mountain lion takes too much of an interest in me, I’d like to be prepared.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1056 "2016-09-05T14:30:07Z")

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It seemed to take a lot of shots to kill the python. I doubt he missed at that close range.

It’s always a good idea to carry a gun in the woods. Wild hogs are a problem in parts of my state. Very dangerous and unpredictable.

> **[Feral hog problems in Arkansas described as ‘World War III’](https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2015/apr/12/feral-hog-problems-arkansas-described-world-war-ii/)**
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> Arkansas farmers are resorting to combat analogies when describing damage done by rooting and wallowing feral hogs.
> “We’ve had feral hogs in Arkansas for more than 100 years,” said Becky McPeake, professor and extension wildlife specialist for the...

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1057 "2016-09-05T15:18:22Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> It’s always a good idea to carry a gun in the woods.

We hike in our woods several times a week. My gf carries a compressed air horn. The last time she saw a black bear it was running away before she even had the horn out of her pocket.

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**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1058 "2016-09-05T19:41:08Z")

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Depends

Also where I am at and what might/could/has been reported in that area.

Gun free zones = gun  
Gun shows = CCW  
Old houses = anti-slime suit  
dark woods = flashlight  
snake pit = I follow the flame thrower in.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1059 "2016-09-05T20:15:47Z")

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> [@GusNSpot](#):
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> snake pit = I follow the flame thrower in.

You’re a tough guy. I follow the grenade.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1060 "2016-09-06T13:20:53Z")

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In other news, [Knife-Wielding Intruder Shot by Homeowner in San Bernardino](http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Home-Intruder-Shot-in-San-Bernardino--383536511.html)

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> The man told police he had gone out to his backyard and when he went back inside the house he found a man standing in his living room with a large hunting knife.  
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> Police said Mackay refused to leave even after several requests by the homeowner, and then began waving the knife, advancing toward the man.
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> The homeowner got his handgun and ordered Mackay to leave, who refused, police said.

DGU with no deaths. Guy brought a hunting knife to a gun fight apparently.

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