# Positive Gun News of the Day **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490 "2015-10-22T22:57:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 56
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1101 "2016-09-23T00:47:39Z")
That Harvard study raises some methodological concerns, most notably that 22 or even 25% is a very low estimate. Googling around other surveys found 45% or 35%. It could be that this survey is better but that discrepancy should be accounted for. Phone surveys are particularly bad, and IIRC skew towards older females. Also, an “unpublished Harvard/Northeastern survey result summary, obtained exclusively by the Guardian and the Trace” ? While I think there is some merit to open-access articles that can be discussed before/during peer review, I’m not sure a newspaper article is an appropriate place. I would call that a press release, not an article. Still, the “super owners” are concerning. Any day now they could evolve several extra arms to become more deadly. ETA: oh looks like the 2004 study was phone and criticized for using that method, the Guardian article doesn’t seem to note that. According to the Trace link at the top, they used “the GfK Knowledge Panel, a nationally representative online panel used by researchers and marketing companies to poll Americans on a variety of issues” but they don’t elaborate. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1102 "2016-09-23T01:55:09Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > Still, the “super owners” are concerning. Any day now they could evolve several extra arms to become more deadly. Damn, I did not consider that. A Lurking Horror indeed! ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1103 "2016-09-23T05:06:12Z")
Never fear the number of weapons or how many have them. Fear the people that are willing to use them. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1104 "2016-09-23T07:54:09Z")
One armed woman against three armed home invaders. Incredible video. This was one heck of a gunfight. One dude dead. Police looking for the other two. I don’t know how this woman survived without any wounds. Bullets were flying in every direction. It drives home just how fast these things happen. The entire incident was just over a minute. > **[Video shows woman shoot at burglars in home invasion | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/09/23/woman-shoots-at-burglars-during-home-invasion-dnt.wsb)** > > A woman shoots at burglars during a fatal home invasion in Gwinnett County, Georgia. One of the burglars died of his injuries. ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1105 "2016-09-23T13:32:10Z")
“unloading all of her bullets”… Uhh, sort of. Unloading them from the muzzle at 1,000 feet per second. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1106 "2016-09-23T13:54:07Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > It’s good news because fewer Americans are buying into the narrative of fear that only they can defend themselves from rampant crime, and only guns can provide that security. Couldn’t have anything to do with the fact that [fewer people hunt](http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/13/sports/13deer.html?_r=0)these days :rolleyes: I am not quite a “super owner” yet, but will be later this year. Here is what I own and why: For using .22 semi auto rifle - target shooting. Has trigger lock. 20 gauge single shot shotgun - bird hunting, mostly quail and pheasant. I clean and eat everything I shoot. 9mm semi auto pistol - home defense. Stays in a locked metal ammo can, as does all ammo for all my guns. Only I have a key. I will be getting a double barrel shotgun later this year for additional option when hunting and for skeet Collecting 32 caliber pistol, circa 1885. Non working. 22 caliber pistol, circa 1965. Cheap model. Works but I wouldn’t pull the trigger with your finger. ;p Has trigger lock. 22 caliber thumb trigger rifle, circa 1920. non working, currently restoring. Flintlock rifle, circa 1850. Non working. All but 2 of the above have been passed down in my family. The shotgun I have owned since I was about 12. The only “new” gun is the 9mm. I guess I’m a dangerous man… ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1107 "2016-09-23T14:01:14Z")
I think she emptied her only clip. Good thing they took off when they did. The guy that went through the glass door should be cut up bad. He’ll probably turn up at a hospital ER. I wonder why they got all that inventory in that house? They said she’s a restaurant Manager. I guess all that stuff is for the restaurant. Odd place to store it. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1108 "2016-09-23T14:11:59Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > It’s good news because fewer Americans are buying into the narrative of fear that only they can defend themselves from rampant crime, and only guns can provide that security. > [@aceplace57](#): > > One armed woman against three armed home invaders. Incredible video. … > > It drives home just how fast these things happen. The entire incident was just over a minute. > > [http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/09/23/woman-shoots-at-burglars-during-home-invasion-dnt.wsb](http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/09/23/woman-shoots-at-burglars-during-home-invasion-dnt.wsb) When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1109 "2016-09-23T14:59:49Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. 🙂 I did note that the guy at the end know how to handle firearms. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1110 "2016-09-23T15:26:46Z")
In other news, [Greeley man stops suspected robber at gunpoint, then tackles and holds him until police arrive](http://www.greeleytribune.com/news/22727163-113/greeley-man-stops-suspected-robber-at-gunpoint-then#) > [@](#): > > On his way home from a Colorado Rockies game, Caddy called in a takeout order to a Greeley restaurant near UNC. He paid for and picked up the food for himself and his sister and walked back to his car. Everything seemed normal until he saw a guy with a wallet in his hands trying to run past the restaurant. > > “He couldn’t run though; his pants were sagging too far,” Caddy said. > > Seconds later, Caddy saw an older man walk up, out of breath, with a phone in his hand asking for help. The victim said the man who had just come past had robbed him. The victim also told Caddy the suspect had a gun. > > Caddy said he can’t stand it when people steal. He said he didn’t waste any time. He grabbed his Smith & Wesson handgun from his car’s trunk and took off after the robber. At some point during the foot chase, and before Caddy caught him, Gonzales threw away his gun, which officers found later. Eventually, the suspected robber jumped a fence and found himself at Caddy’s gunpoint. > > “I told him to freeze. I pointed my firearm at him. I told him to drop the wallet and wait for the police,” Caddy said. > > Gonzales dropped the wallet; Caddy put the gun away and tackled him into the bushes when he tried to leave, Caddy said. Gonzales fought back, but Caddy — a former high school wrestler — got him a chokehold and kept him there until police arrived and arrested the man. DGU with no injuries (from guns). I’m pretty sure I’m not going to engage in a foot chase with a suspected armed robber, but apparently this guy had it under control with wrestling moves. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1111 "2016-09-23T17:08:07Z")
> [@Doctor\_Jackson](#): > > 22 caliber thumb trigger rifle, circa 1920. non working, currently restoring. I had no idea what you meant so I googled. Winchester? That is a really strange concept. You learn something new every day. ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1112 "2016-09-23T17:20:29Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > I had no idea what you meant so I googled. Winchester? That is a really strange concept. You learn something new every day. I hadn’t heard of this, either. Here is a nice video about it: > **[RIA: Winchester Thumb Trigger Rifle](https://www.forgottenweapons.com/ria-winchester-thumb-trigger-rifle/)** ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1113 "2016-09-23T20:11:40Z")
Yep, Winchester. The thought process was, supposedly, that the pull of the finger against a trigger tended to tense the shooter and ever so slightly raise the business end of the barrel. Simply releasing the hammer with one’s thumb would not. Sounds logical, I guess! All I need now is to find a firing pin. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1114 "2016-09-24T16:38:15Z")
If you can’t find one, a good machine shop should be able to turn and temper one for you if you can provide the specs. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1115 "2016-09-24T21:54:28Z")
In other news, [INTRUDER SHOT IN YULEE HOME INVASION](http://www.fbnewsleader.com/news/intruder-shot-yulee-home-invasion) > [@](#): > > According to Nassau County Sheriff Bill Leeper, Timothy William Rasbeary, 72, died from a pistol wound early Monday morning after Rasbeary allegedly “busted out” the front door of a Yulee house where the homeowner, Christopher E. Kuches, was sleeping on the couch. Kuches pulled out a pistol and shot the intruder. > … > Asked if it is the right thing to do to shoot someone breaking into your house, Leeper said, “Certainly people have guns in their homes to protect themselves and their property. If you break into a home you might expect to get shot, so I would suggest not to break into homes.” DGU with one death. This one is a bit different as the intruder appears to have been 72 years old. * * * In other news, [Suspect caught after homeowner opens fire during Okmulgee County break in](http://www.fox23.com/news/suspect-on-the-run-after-homeowner-opens-fire-during-okmulgee-county-break-in/384010017) > [@](#): > > They said a husband and wife were in their home when someone broke into the home near 260 and Hectorville Road around 5 a.m. Sunday. > > Wayne Forrest said he woke up to his dogs barking and came out to find a man at his table. > > Forrest, who is fighting cancer, said the man was after his pain pills. He said he yelled at the man to leave, but a fight broke out when the suspect refused. > > He said he then grabbed his rifle. When he came back in the room, the suspect reportedly told Forrest he was going to kill him. DGU with no deaths. The best gun you have is the one you have with you. I found this an odd addition to the story: > [@](#): > > Forrest said Gage took several saddles from him. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1116 "2016-09-26T16:28:32Z")
In other news, [Police: Girl shot after threatening Red Bluff couple with steak knife](http://www.abc10.com/news/local/california/police-girl-shot-after-threatening-red-bluff-couple-with-steak-knife/265249911) > [@](#): > > Their shouting got the attention of another neighbor, who called 911. > > That neighbor, a 30-year-old woman, went outside and yelled at the group that she called the police, said Lt. Matt Hansen. > > That’s when the group turned its attention to the woman and threatened her. The 16-year-old girl attacked the woman and the 30-year-old woman’s husband called 911 again. The 31-year-old husband went outside with his gun holstered to get his wife, said police. > > The 16-year-old and two other men continued to threaten the couple and that’s when the 16-year-old followed them with the 6-inch steak knife. The husband shot at the girl three times, hitting her twice, said police. DGU with no deaths. Girl brought a knife to a gun fight. 2 of 3 shots hit again illustrating that shot placement is critical. There was actually [a press release](http://rbpd.org/resources/Press%20Release%20-%20Assault%20with%20a%20deadly%20weapon%207-5-2016.pdf) by police for this one. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1117 "2016-09-27T15:16:06Z")
In other news, [4 charged after Palos Park homeowner shoots home invaders](http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20160707/news/307079790/) > [@](#): > > Three people from Indiana and an Illinois man have been charged in connection with a suburban Chicago home invasion that left an accomplice dead. > > The Palos Park homeowner shot and killed 19-year-old Anthony Dalton of Cedar Lake on Tuesday. An accomplice, 23-year-old Tyler Gulli of Midlothian, Illinois, was wounded. Police say the homeowner, who wasn’t identified, had a valid concealed carry license. DGU with one death. 4v1 and the one prevailed, though it seems two of the four were brandishing knives and the others present were accomplices. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1118 "2016-09-29T01:34:10Z")
In other news, S[hooting Victim Allegedly Pulled Gun On Man Outside Club](http://www.newschannel5.com/news/local-news/shooting-victim-allegedly-pulled-gun-on-man) > [@](#): > > According to an affidavit from Metro Nashville Police, Rahsaan Lunn pulled a gun on a man during the ordeal. > > During a struggle, police said Lunn shot the other man in the shoulder, at which point that man shot Lunn in the head. > > He was rushed to an area hospital, but has since been released. > > Lunn was arrested and charged with aggravated assault. DGU with no deaths. Normally I wouldn’t post this one because it’s not super clear what happened, but here I found it interesting that Lunn was shot in the head…and then he was arrested and charged with aggravated assault. That’s just a bad day. * * * In other news, [Homeowner vs. home invader: ‘I just closed my eyes and shot twice’](http://www.palmcoastobserver.com/article/homeowner-vs-home-invader-i-just-closed-my-eyes-and-shot-twice) > [@](#): > > It was 2 a.m. July 13, and the bedroom door was being kicked in, so he struggled to keep it closed, scraping his arm as he did so. > > Inside the home was his daughter, who had just turned 2, as well as the girl’s mother and three other adults, all about 20 years old. Corbett managed to keep the door closed long enough to grab his .40 caliber weapon. Then, he opened the door and ran at them in the front room. > > “I just closed my eyes and shot twice, and then my gun stopped working,” Corbett said in a statement to deputies. > > When the deputies arrived at 2:17 a.m., they found a man lying face down, dead, with a black cloth around his face. His gun had been kicked away from him. He was later identified as 28-year-old Victor James Betty of 17 Cloverdale Court S. An inmate search shows that he had been arrested on drug charges twice before, in 2013 and 2011. A press release from the Sheriff’s Office says Betty and the other suspect, later identified as 19-year-old Carl Devore of 6 Cedar Court, were seeking marijuana, although the deputies’ report doesn’t mention marijuana. There is also no indication whether the suspects knew the victims. DGU with one death. Running at an attacker, closing your eyes, and firing is a terrible way to employ defense tactics. It did end much better than it could have. I wonder if that statement was taken out of context. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1119 "2016-09-30T02:30:43Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > I wonder if that statement was taken out of context. Sounds better than, “I decided to off the sons of bitches!” ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1120 "2016-09-30T05:30:38Z")
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