# Positive Gun News of the Day **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490 "2015-10-22T22:57:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 59
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1161 "2016-10-20T15:52:20Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Yes, but it would be pretty rough for a thirteen year old girl to kill a guy. It would be terrible. It would also be far better than a number of bad outcomes that could have happened had she not been able to defend herself and her sister. * * * In other news, [Self-defense was motive in fatal shooting](http://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/self-defense-was-motive-fatal-shooting/WZTX4I3OPJyjjb29fpnD8H/) > [@](#): > > Self-defense appears to be the motive in a double shooting in south Fulton County that left one man dead and another injured, police said. > > About 8 p.m. Wednesday, two men in their early 20s assaulted someone during an attempted robbery, the Union City Police Department said. > > “The male [assault] victim was able to break away and was chased to a nearby friend’s house,” police said. > > Upon arriving at the friend’s house in the 5100 block of Cotter Drive, the victim yelled for his friend to help. > > “The friend heeded to his call and jumped into the altercation,” police said. “During the altercation, shots were fired.” DGU with one death. A friend in need clearly - the assault was ended when one person was able to defend another with his firearm. * * * In other news, [Central Fresno store clerk shoots man who threatened him](http://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/crime/article92770427.html) > [@](#): > > When Hardin wouldn’t leave, the clerk took out a handgun and told him he would shoot if he attacked him. Hardin continued to harass the clerk, spitting on him and moving to get around the counter, Gomez said. > > The clerk shot Hardin once in the abdomen and then called the police department. DGU with no deaths. Apparently the attacker was already on parole for assault with a deadly weapon. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1162 "2016-10-21T14:18:19Z")
In other news,[Police: Cheviot store clerk shot robbery suspect](http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/2016/07/30/police-cheviot-store-clerk-shot-robbery-suspect/87854352/) > [@](#): > > Officers responded to the 4100 block of Harrison Avenue just after 11 p.m. and were told a man in his 20s in a mask and latex surgical gloves pointed a handgun at the clerk of the store, the Cheviot Police Department reported. > > Police said the clerk, a concealed carry permit holder, defended himself and struck the suspect. DGU with no deaths. Another incidence where an attacker was defeated even after drawing a weapon first. Again shot placement is critical. * * * In other news, [Glendale police: Woman kills armed man after attempted robbery](http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/glendale-breaking/2016/08/01/1-dead-1-custody-after-glendale-circle-k-shooting/87913778/) > [@](#): > > Carol Miracle, 23, told Glendale police that Frank Taylor, 27, attempted to rob her about 1 a.m. near a Circle K at 59th Avenue and Camelback Road. > > Officer Tiffany Smith, a Glendale police spokeswoman, said Miracle told officers that Taylor pointed his gun to her head, and then she drew her own handgun and shot him, fearing for her life. > > After the shooting, Miracle called 911 from her home and alerted law enforcement about what happened, Smith said. DGU with one death. Similar situation here where attacker initiated the conflict and the person was able to defend herself. Here shot placement was better placed to immediately stop the threat. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1163 "2016-10-24T16:29:37Z")
So I started this thread approximately 1 year ago and I’ve learned a few things since then. While stories are easy to come by, making a point to post about them is more time consuming than I thought - especially on weekends. Another thing I learned is that a lot of these stories sound the same, taking place over and over in different parts of the country. My original goal was to highlight stories that didn’t often get a lot of coverage. That being said, after a year of maintaining the thread I’ll be tapering down regular additions and probably only add stories of significance now and then. ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1164 "2016-10-24T16:39:06Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > So I started this thread approximately 1 year ago and I’ve learned a few things since then. While stories are easy to come by, making a point to post about them is more time consuming than I thought - especially on weekends. Another thing I learned is that a lot of these stories sound the same, taking place over and over in different parts of the country. > > My original goal was to highlight stories that didn’t often get a lot of coverage. That being said, after a year of maintaining the thread I’ll be tapering down regular additions and probably only add stories of significance now and then. That is completely understandable, and you deserve kudos for a job well done. Because these stories are often only reported on a local basis, and ignored by the mainstream press, they are probably not easy to come by. Thank you for all of your posts, Bone. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1165 "2016-10-25T02:09:24Z")
This is a great thread. Sure hope it can be kept active. I’ll try to post whenever I see a good self defense story. These stories can be hard to find. The National news tries to ignore self defense with a gun as much as possible. Home intruder and attempted rape stopped by homeowner’s gun. The lady did a remarkable job defending herself under great stress. > **[News, Politics, Sports, Mail & Latest Headlines](https://www.aol.com/)** > > Discover the latest breaking news in the U.S. and around the world — politics, weather, entertainment, lifestyle, finance, sports and much more. > [@](#): > > “I kicked the hell out of him… I pulled my leg back, and I kicked him dead in his chest as hard as I could,” she said. > > The move gave her enough time to grab a gun nearby. > > “I pulled the gun from the case, flipped the safety, sat up, pointed it, and shot twice,” she said. > > The man ran away, likely not hit. Bullet holes remain in clothes in the closet and walls. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1166 "2016-10-26T08:23:52Z")
Store Robbery prevented with a minor injury and the suspect was arrested. He’s a registered sex offender and now off the streets. [http://www.northjersey.com/news/retired-nyc-detective-thwarts-armed-robbery-attempt-in-garfield-1.1681311](http://www.northjersey.com/news/retired-nyc-detective-thwarts-armed-robbery-attempt-in-garfield-1.1681311) > [@](#): > > Louis Pizzi, whose last known address was in Hasbrouck Heights, wore a mask when he entered Tobacco Road at 320 River Drive, and pointed a handgun at the store’s owner and his wife, Gurbir S. Grewal, the acting Bergen County prosecutor, said in a news release. > > Grewal said store employee, a retired detective, told police that Pizzi announced: “This is a robbery!” The former officer, who called police to report the incident, then tried to disarm the man but was pushed to the ground during the altercation, Grewal said. > > The former officer was armed with a handgun and fired one shot at suspect, striking him in the left leg, Grewal said. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1167 "2016-10-26T08:32:59Z")
Wife had a protection order against her husband. There was a prior domestic assault charge. Wife was attacked and she defended herself with one fatality. [http://m.wbrc.com/myfoxal/pm\_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=od:XnlcsxXY](http://m.wbrc.com/myfoxal/pm_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=od:XnlcsxXY) > [@](#): > > The investigation revealed that Delauter, who was living near Rutherford, Tennessee, parked his vehicle about a half mile from Lee Ann Delauter’s home. > > He then broke into the home and assaulted Lee Ann with a knife and fired more than one shot at her with a semi-automatic firearm, according to Captain McGowan. > > Lee Ann Delauter had her own firearm in the bedroom and returned fire, hitting Delauter. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1168 "2016-10-26T21:30:36Z")
I must say the reporting on “mundane” incidents, though maybe tedious to compile, does provide some balance by showing that one of the main pro-gun arguments is not just pulled out of thin air. One may feel it does not tilt the total overall cost-benefit assessment vs. misuse, but it is real. One of the things I draw from here (besides the aforementioned observation of how many miscreants bring a nonprojectile weapon to a gunfight) is that another common concern, of that someone using in proper self-defense will be exposed to all manner of suits and charges, appears to have been a bit overstated. Sure you WILL be investigated and likely disarmed while the query proceeds… but from these cases it seems if it’s clearly legit the call will be made sooner than later. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1169 "2016-11-17T23:51:23Z")
In other news, [Passerby shoots, kills motorist assaulting deputy after traffic stop](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/15/passerby-shoots-kills-motorist-assaulting-deputy-after-traffic-stop.html) > [@](#): > > Shanta Holditch told WZVN that the suspect pulled the deputy out of his car and “just kept beating him and beating him … throwing him to the ground and punching him in all different directions.” > > At that point, WINK reported, another driver got out of his car and ran to the scene. He told the suspect that he’d shoot him if he didn’t stop beating the deputy. > > "[He] refused to get off the officer and the officer kept yelling, ‘shoot him, shoot him, shoot him,’ Holditch said. > > When the suspect didn’t stop his attack, the third man shot him three times. The deputy was not hit. The suspect later died. DGU with one death. After a high speed chase a traffic officer was being assaulted by a motorist and a passerby had the presence of mind to intercede. Here is an incident of a police officer being aided by an armed civilian. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1170 "2016-11-18T00:00:48Z")
I’ve never been worried about smart and decent people carrying guns – I’m worried about all the idiots (and bad people, of course) with guns. I wonder what the stats say about just the idiots, and how idiocy compares to other usage of guns. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1171 "2016-11-18T01:38:44Z")
You can’t have good decent people that use guns positively unless you also let idiots buy guns freely. If they are not also criminals or judged mentally unfit, the Second Amendment guarantees the right of morons and jackasses alike to buy as many guns as they want. All we can do is wait until they hurt themselves or others to do anything about it. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1172 "2016-11-18T11:38:55Z")
Kudos to the passerby for warning the guy first before shooting (and thus giving him the chance to stop and not get shot) rather than blasting away. Hard to find a better-justified shooting, from the sound of it. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1173 "2016-11-18T21:25:40Z")
Here’s one, from upstate New York:[ > [@](#): > > Daniel Bronson’s biggest play on a record-setting day as the quarterback at the University of Rochester happened away from the football field. > > The 21-year-old junior from Lockport in Niagara County was leaving a restaurant in his hometown on Nov. 5 when he saw a man run past a 73-year-old woman and yank her purse out of her arms as she walked with her husband. > > Bronson took off after the man, who dropped the purse but kept on running. Bronson kept running, too, and tackled the man and held him down with the help of his girlfriend’s father and brother. Police arrived and arrested the man on a robbery charge. ]([http://bigstory.ap.org/article/fa71a6e72bee4aff97e5c25add38adf8/ny-college-quarterback-runs-down-tackles-purse-snatcher](http://bigstory.ap.org/article/fa71a6e72bee4aff97e5c25add38adf8/ny-college-quarterback-runs-down-tackles-purse-snatcher)) ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1174 "2016-11-20T19:06:45Z")
Some days it just doesn’t pay to come into work. First you have to stock the shelves and mop the floors. Your long shift ends and then a guy with a machete chases you around the parking lot. Fortunately you are armed and shoot the guy. No fatalities. Bad guy is in the hospital. [http://www.heralddemocrat.com/news/20161117/clerk-at-sherman-grocery-shoots-machete-wielding-man](http://www.heralddemocrat.com/news/20161117/clerk-at-sherman-grocery-shoots-machete-wielding-man) > [@](#): > > The clerk told police that he later went out to his car preparing to close the store. The suspect then walked up yelling at the clerk. The clerk told police he saw the suspect pulling something from his waist band. Fearing the suspect had a gun, the clerk ran toward the alley behind the store. The suspect chased the victim with a machete. The clerk said that as he was running away, he was able to pull his gun and shoot at the suspect. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1175 "2016-11-20T19:16:40Z")
Armed homeowners detain burglar. No shots fired. Best possible outcome. Homeowners save their stuff and burglar gets a ride to jail. > **[Would-be-thief is held at gunpoint by homeowners in Grayson County](https://www.wbko.com/content/news/Would-be-thief-is-held-at-gunpoint-by-homeowners-in-Grayson-County-401602696.html)** > > The homeowners turn the tables on a would-be-thief in Grayson County. > [@](#): > > The homeowners were told from a neighbor their home had been burglarized. > > When they came home to check the would-be thief was in their front yard. > The homeowners confronted the suspect,19 year old Dakota Daley. > > Daley started to run but was stopped when the men drew their weapons.  > Authorities say Daley had the items that were stolen from the home. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1176 "2016-11-20T19:30:34Z")
I guess this guy is a fan of the Terminator. “I’ll be back!”. He didn’t account for a armed store owner. Injuries no fatalities. One lady ran off with the suspect’s gun and tried to hide it. She’s charged with obstruction of justice. [http://klfy.com/2016/11/16/abbeville-store-owner-shoots-back-at-armed-assailant-hospitalizes-one-suspect/](http://klfy.com/2016/11/16/abbeville-store-owner-shoots-back-at-armed-assailant-hospitalizes-one-suspect/) > [@](#): > > “As the officers responded they located a black male subject in the roadway. Turns out to be that this person is Mr. Steven Davenport who is the alleged suspect,” said Lt. David Hardy. > > Lt. David Hardy said Davenport was seeking revenge on the store owner’s son. > > “It all turned out to be in reference to girls fighting previously. Mr. Davenport went to the store earlier that day where he was advised not to return. He told him he’d be back at closing time which was right around ten o’clock.” ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1177 "2016-11-21T00:23:45Z")
Had a ‘gun moll’ and neither was up to the task seems… ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1178 "2016-11-21T12:09:54Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Here’s one, from upstate New York:[url=[http://bigstory.ap.org/article/fa71a6e72bee4aff97e5c25add38adf8/ny-college-quarterback-runs-down-tackles-purse-snatcher](http://bigstory.ap.org/article/fa71a6e72bee4aff97e5c25add38adf8/ny-college-quarterback-runs-down-tackles-purse-snatcher)] Great story, but is there a gun in it somewhere? ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2016, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1179 "2016-12-03T04:44:42Z")
Lots of shooting and killing in LR AR this week just like other weeks. Trying to be a good guy goes bad sometimes. Dad always said a ‘mad’ woman was the most dangerous opponent in a shoot out. [Little Rock good guy is the one who dies while trying to help. Maybe he did save the intended victim.](http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2016/11/17/police-circulate-photo-of-suspect-car-in-fatal-shooting) ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1180 "2016-12-29T21:11:56Z")
[Woman With Gun Wins Against Three Armed Intruders](http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/local/cities/norcross/video-audio-from-fatal-home-invasion-released/article_8733535e-bc19-5759-a57c-7b1105579888.html) There is a link to the video from the home surveillance system on the left. I will refrain from any commentary about her technique other than to observe it was effective. Obviously we have no way of knowing what would have happened if she hadn’t been armed, but I’m sure she would have been more traumatized than she is now. tldr; Three armed home invaders -v- armed woman resident. -\> One dead criminal and the woman physically unharmed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=58) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=60)