# Positive Gun News of the Day **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490 "2015-10-22T22:57:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2015, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/101 "2015-11-07T10:51:29Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > They do have pretty reasonable gun control laws, actually - what’s different is the way guns are viewed there vs elsewhere. > > In the US, a gun is mainly a symbol of many things, from the ownership of your home to the Constitution and the rights enshrined in it. In other countries, they tend to be viewed as a dangerous tool. But when you look at the laws in the US, they actually have checks that are very similar to those of other countries - the difference is that in other countries nobody would think of buying a gun because we have the right to. Really? Most places have “shall issue” rules in place for concealed carry laws? Cos we surely do not in Australia. Nor do department stores sell firearms, like they do in the US. I think the rules are different, despite having similar cultures. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2015, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/102 "2015-11-08T00:16:05Z")
[Shootout erupts during attempted home invasion in NW Harris County](http://www.click2houston.com/news/shootout-erupts-during-attempted-home-invasion-in-nw-harris-county/35482394) > [@](#): > > A group of suspects were hit in a shootout with a resident during an attempted home invasion Friday morning in northwest Harris County, authorities said. > … > Investigators said the armed men approached the victim’s home, where several people were inside, including small children. The suspects fired shots at the homeowner and someone from inside of the home returned fire. > > According to Harris County Precinct 4 Constable Mark Herman, the suspects were hit during the gunfire and drove themselves to a nearby hospital. There is no word on the condition of the suspects. Multiple suspects hit, no one inside hit. Sounds good to me. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/103 "2015-11-09T19:02:27Z")
[Pontiac woman shoots, misses; ex flees, gets arrested](http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/oakland/2015/09/28/cpl-pontiac/72972062/) > [@](#): > > The Oakland County Sheriff’s Office said a Pontiac woman scared the man off when she pulled out a handgun and fired several shots Sunday after he broke into her home and threatened to “knock her out.” The 30-year-old Pontiac man was later arrested and jailed. > > The woman told deputies her ex-boyfriend had beaten her up the previous evening and returned again on Sunday morning to her home on East Montcalm Street, according to a press release from the Oakland County Sheriff’s Office. Woman defends herself against violent ex-boyfriend. Yay. Too bad she missed. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/104 "2015-11-10T16:37:06Z")
[Bonney Lake PD investigating after homeowner shoots intruder](http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Bonney-Lake-police-investigate-after-man-says-he-shot-intruder-329840771.html) > [@](#): > > Detectives wrapped up their investigation at the scene and are going through evidence at police headquarters. It is evidence of what appears to be an armed intruder showing up at a doorstep. > > “The homeowner who was the reporting party on this called to say to stop the intruder from coming inside the house, he pointed the gun and ended up firing 1 to 2 shots at the individual,” said Officer Todd Green with the Bonney Lake Police Department. > > Police said the homeowner, who is in his 50s, is acquainted with the suspected intruder, who is in his late 20s early 30s. The homeowner said the intruder first knocked on the door and spoke to his wife. When she saw the gun she went to get her husband, who armed himself. When he got to the door, that’s when the shots were fired hitting the suspect in the legs. > > “If somebody arrived at his front porch and had a gun and pointed it at the home owner then, yes, you’re allowed to protect yourself at that point,” Green said. I wonder if he was aiming low on purpose. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/105 "2015-11-10T18:36:32Z")
[Young mom, National Guard medic, shot twice during home invasion while nursing her baby. Returns fire and intruders flee.](http://conservativetribune.com/armed-punks-combat-medic/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=TheFederalistPapers&utm_content=2015-11-09&utm_campaign=manualpost) > [@](#): > > What the men who broke in didn’t know was that Bunce is a combat medic with the North Carolina National Guard. They also didn’t know that she was armed — something that quickly became apparent when she decided it was her turn to shoot and then unleashed a volley of gunfire. > > Paul Bunce, Semantha’s husband, told reporters that he believes his wife’s training helped her stay calm until paramedics could arrive at the scene and treat her, possibly saving her life. She also managed to save the life of the couple’s 4-month-old baby. She was feeding the boy when the attack occurred. This young woman was seriously injured and according to the accompanying TV news video, was facing additional surgery for the wound to her stomach which the doctors were concerned about. A GoFundMe page has been set up to help with medical costs and is linked to in the accompanying story. Here’s hoping she pulls through okay. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/106 "2015-11-10T18:47:51Z")
[And in other news, a woman being beaten with a hammer was saved when a bystander shot and killed her attacker.](http://concealednation.org/2015/11/armed-bystander-fatally-shoots-man-beating-his-girlfriend-with-hammer/) Good to see local television media, at least, broadcasting these stories. Too bad one has to rely on Facebook and conservative sites to hear about them nationally like we do every time some wacko with a gun kills someone. Liberal media bias, folks. It’s real and this is one of the ways it expresses itself. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/107 "2015-11-10T21:41:48Z")
By a margin of over two to one, Americans fear being a victim of gun violence [more than they fear being a victim of terrorism.](http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article43846755.html) Even a majority of Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/108 "2015-11-10T22:16:46Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > By a margin of over two to one, Americans fear being a victim of gun violence [more than they fear being a victim of terrorism.](http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article43846755.html) Even a majority of Republicans. That article notes only that they are afraid of those things, not how much they fear them. On some level, I am afraid of getting shot and of terrorism. I fear getting stung by a bee or losing my car keys more, though, as those events are much more likely. I expect the people polled for that article would have similar fear levels. That article is of no value. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/109 "2015-11-11T00:35:55Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > By a margin of over two to one, Americans fear being a victim of gun violence [more than they fear being a victim of terrorism.](http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article43846755.html) Even a majority of Republicans. Do you consider this positive news? I can’t tell if this is a commentary on the quality of individual risk assessment, the over inflated risk assessment of terrorism across the political spectrum, or the over inflated risk assessment of gun “violence” including suicide across the political spectrum, a lesson in odd A vs. B matchups, or something else. And, you misread the article. Not a majority of Republicans as you state: > [@](#): > > Democrats fear guns over terrorism by 77-15 percent. Independents fear gun violence over terrorism by 64-28 percent. > > **Republicans edge toward terrorism as the bigger threat,** but only narrowly, by 50-45 percent over a fear of gun violence. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/110 "2015-11-11T00:45:54Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > And, you misread the article. Not a majority of Republicans as you state: You are right. Republicans fear terrorism more. Which makes Scumpup’s response even funnier: > [@Scumpup](#): > > That article notes only that they are afraid of those things, not how much they fear them. On some level, I am afraid of getting shot and of terrorism. I fear getting stung by a bee or losing my car keys more, though, as those events are much more likely. I expect the people polled for that article would have similar fear levels. That article is of no value. So even though gun violence is orders of magnitude more common than terrorism, Republicans still fear terrorism more. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/111 "2015-11-11T01:24:57Z")
I don’t give a crap about Republicrats and Democans. I am telling you that poll is useless because it doesn’t tell us how much they fear those things compared to anything else. “Do you fear getting shot or terrorists more?” isn’t very useful when most people who answered probably aren’t especially afraid of either. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/112 "2015-11-11T01:28:56Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > You are right. Republicans fear terrorism more. Which makes Scumpup’s response even funnier: > So even though gun violence is orders of magnitude more common than terrorism, Republicans still fear terrorism more. Do you consider that positive news? ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/113 "2015-11-11T01:38:20Z")
[Four Teens Arrested In Attempted Local Home Invasion](http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Four-Teens-Arrested-In-Attempted-Local-Home-Invasion-329834831.html) > [@](#): > > Four teenagers were in custody Monday in connection with an attempted home invasion in Hewitt that was thwarted when the former Marine whose home the teens targeted opened fire through the front door at the would-be intruders… Don’t open doors to strangers. I’d suggest against shooting through a closed door, but situational circumstances may make that the best option. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/114 "2015-11-11T01:58:13Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > Do you consider that positive news? I do. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/115 "2015-11-11T02:30:26Z")
> [@Esox\_Lucius](#): > > I don’t know what New Jersey law calls for in a case like this [Google is kinda your friend.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_New_Jersey) [The NJ State Police regs](http://www.njsp.org/firearms/transport-firearm.shtml). ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/116 "2015-11-11T03:35:06Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > Not necessarily - > > A life vs losing the money in the till to a fuckwit thief? > > Between the two I know which I would choose - even if it was my personal money You might want to rethink that attitude. > **[LAPD: Parker Center Cop Shop Files — Slaughter at Bob’s Big Boy](https://ladailymirror.com/2013/12/26/lapd-parker-center-cop-shop-files-slaughter-at-bobs-big-boy/)** > >   Suspect 1, DR-80-585-895 Suspect 2, DR-80-585-895 Dec. 14, 1980: The takeover robbery of Bob’s Big Boy at 1845 S. La Cienega Blvd. was part of a rising tide of violence in the 1980s. As The Times… I used to work across the parking lot from that restaurant. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/117 "2015-11-11T04:36:10Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > In other news,[a would be robber was shot and killed](http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20151010/PC16/151019902) as he attempted to rob a Waffle House: :dubious: No, that is not “Positive Gun News,” that is a worse outcome than if he had gotten away with the money. The contents of a cash register are worth nobody’s life. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/118 "2015-11-11T05:16:08Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > :dubious: No, that is not “Positive Gun News,” that is a worse outcome than if he had gotten away with the money. The contents of a cash register are worth nobody’s life. Thanks for sharing! Fortunately the laws in nearly every state disagree with you. If you think this is a bad outcome, good luck trying to change the laws. * * * In other news, [Neighbor shoots aggressive dog involved in fight with another dog](http://www.contracostatimes.com/breaking-news/ci_28897264/brentwood-neighbor-shoots-aggressive-dog-involved-fight-another): > [@](#): > > A resident shot his neighbor’s aggressive dog in the throat Tuesday morning after the dog owner was bitten and screamed for help, police said. > > Officers responded to a report of a woman screaming for help and dogs barking around 11 a.m. Tuesday in the 500 block of McIntosh Terrace, according to a news release from Brentwood police. Upon arrival, officers learned that two dogs owned by the homeowner were fighting. > > The 60-year-old homeowner was bitten when she attempted to separate her fighting dogs, police said. The woman screamed for help as she feared the aggressive dog would kill her other dog. > > Armed with a gun, the woman’s neighbor went to the house to assist her. The neighbor saw that the aggressive dog had the other dog by the threat and shot it twice. The shooting stopped the attack and the dogs were separated. I am generally a dog person, but dogs who attack are a serious problem. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/119 "2015-11-11T05:30:45Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > :dubious: No, that is not “Positive Gun News,” that is a worse outcome than if he had gotten away with the money. The contents of a cash register are worth nobody’s life. And it’s a vastly better income than if the robber had decided to start shooting once he had the money in hand, as have many robbers over the years. I once was close with a young family consisting of a guy with second job at a convenience store, and his wife and 6-year-old son who came to visit him one day. They were robbed of $50, herded into the cooler and shot execution style by their robbers. (The bad guys were later found and sent to prison. The shooter subsequently escaped several years later and I’ve never heard of him being found.) It’s ludicrous beyond belief to suggest that anyone being robbed and having access to a gun should opt not to use it and choose instead to hand over the money and stand there meekly hoping the bad guy won’t shoot them, all because supposedly the robber’s life is worth more than the money in the till. Robbers aren’t shot because of the value of the money involved, they’re shot because they’re threatening the lives of other human beings. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/120 "2015-11-11T07:15:33Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > [Young mom, National Guard medic, shot twice during home invasion while nursing her baby. Returns fire and intruders flee.](http://conservativetribune.com/armed-punks-combat-medic/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=TheFederalistPapers&utm_content=2015-11-09&utm_campaign=manualpost) You think that a young mother being shot twice ends up being in a positive story for guns, because she was able to shoot back? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=7)